Rumor: Dubas has told other teams "everyone is available, except 87."”

[The Shadow]

Dubas really has fooled so many people. He’s made a killing doing very little in terms of success

Hiring Keefe was a huge mistake. The leafs, if they had a coach that taught a better defensive system and held players accountable, the leafs would have had so much more success

 

[Khelandros]

What’s the difference between the retool Washington is doing and what Pittsburgh wants to do

Coaching.

 

[Gurglesons]

What’s the difference between the retool Washington is doing and what Pittsburgh wants to do

The Capitals have made shrewd intelligent decisions while the Penguins have re-signed players or moved their best assets like Guentzel for absolute dog shit returns.

The Capitals also didn’t worship their coach.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Tanking is exactly what Dubas wanted.

Maybe, but I'm not sure he is the right guy for a rebuild. We shall find out in the next few months here

 

[DaveG]

87 is the only player on the team anybody would want!

71, but he has an NMC as well so don't see him going anywhere either.

 

[hamzarocks]

Why would Crosby be not available if malkin, letang, karlssom are on market and being dealt?

The Pens without those three will be even worse offensively and Crosby would have no one to play with.

Crosby should be on the market and give 3-5 teams he would be okay to play for and go finish his career of there

 

[dirtydanglez]

this is the avs chance to unload a plethora of mediocre goalies.

 

[sxvnert]

What’s the difference between the retool Washington is doing and what Pittsburgh wants to do

Caps kept their firsts and started dumping players for picks four years ago.

 

[Look Up]

What would the ask be for Sullivan?

 

[DaveG]

What’s the difference between the retool Washington is doing and what Pittsburgh wants to do

Caps have embraced a youth movement in the background while allowing contracts of guys that are on their last legs to expire. Some shrewd pickups of younger guys (Strome, Sandin) and actually hanging on to picks (McMichael, Protas) allowed them to replace guys like Oshie and Backstrom with depth. Also defensively they're actually pretty decent.

Pens should have started the rebuild process with a similar strategy, but kept Letang and proceeding GMs continued GMJR's ways of trading draft picks like candy.

 

[Benstheman]

87 is the only player on the team anybody would want!

Well. I guess a contender would probably love to acquire Malkin his last two years. He is still pretty good.

 

[Sike Mullivan]

What would the ask be for Sullivan?

I would ask him to step down.

 

[Andy99]

71, but he has an NMC as well so don't see him going anywhere either.

No disrespect to Sid, but 71 has been our best player this season…

 

[SomeDude]

What’s the difference between the retool Washington is doing and what Pittsburgh wants to do

For starters, we’re like 4 years behind Washington. They also hit on like all of their reclamation projects which is not likely replicable.

We also have Dubas overseeing ours and he’s a moron. His chance to retool was wasted on the empty jersey that is Erik Karlsson and continued job security for the rotting corpse of a coach.

 

[Fatass]

If the team is being stripped down, I imagine a lot of them would rather waive their clause and go to a team with plans to compete, than uphold their clause to stay on a team whose plans are to rebuild.

The cost to move some of those contracts will be prohibitive too. Old guys, at high cap allocation, with term, who are playing old, aren’t easily moved. It will cost the club retention and assets. Dubas put the Pens in a worse spot than Trotz did with the Preds.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I wonder what prospect he is going to trade for an aging defensmen

 

[KevinRedkey]

Retain 50% ok EK and get a haul.

 

[Alex K]

What’s the difference between the retool Washington is doing and what Pittsburgh wants to do

You answered your question. "doing" vs "wants to do", that's the difference.

 

[Kranix]

This is how Sid wanted to spend the final years of his career.

 

[SomeDude]

You answered your question. "doing" vs "wants to do", that's the difference.

In his first 2-3 months on the job, Dubas saddled this team with long term contracts to Jarry, Graves, and EK.

He tried to re-tool, he just is grossly inept at evaluating talent.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

What would be the ask for Pettersen?

2nd+b prospect most likely. But I'm hoping for a 1st. He's 28, been the Pens best dman the last few years, only makes $4M, and is a ufa after this year.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Trade everyone not named Sid or Geno

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Most teams struggling like this would fire the coach.

The Penguins are the rare exception where they’d rather fire the team.

We've had multiple owners, multiple gms, and turned over the entire roster before firing Sullivan. The guy is untouchable

Dubas really has fooled so many people. He’s made a killing doing very little in terms of success

Hiring Keefe was a huge mistake. The leafs had they had a coach that taught a better defensive system and held players accountability the leafs would have had so much more success

The dark rimmed glasses were the best investment he ever made.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Retain 50% ok EK and get a haul.

Wut. That deal is untradeable.

 

[SomeDude]

Dubas really has fooled so many people. He’s made a killing doing very little in terms of success

Hiring Keefe was a huge mistake. The leafs had they had a coach that taught a better defensive system and held players accountability the leafs would have had so much more success

Having someone who can actually articulate in compound sentences just blows the minds of NHL owners since the majority of hockey ops people are there purely due to nepotism and are idiots.

It’s going to take at least 8 years before anyone with any say finally starts to think, “maybe this guy isn’t as smart as we thought he was.”