Post-Game Talk: Drouins big return ends up in a Habs loss against Ottawa

[BLONG7]

Owe to have a PMD so we don’t have Drouin and Hoffman playing the point on PPs and with the ENs

Guhlie can just sit and watch..............this is on MSL..........but the plan seems to be to get those guys points, so we can get a pick for them..............not working at all. The vets are a sad bunch.

 

[hvac412]

They had a good third, except Dadanov, I'm losing all respsect for the coaching staff for giving that awful hockey player an ounce of prime ice time he is disgustingly bad. Glad they keep using the drop pass for the 30th ranked PP, it's so great to see out there, nobody is expecting it at all.

You can only polish a turd so much Mr Hughes,enough already,Dadadud is probably the worst hockey player on this team I've seen in a long while .I turned the game off when I saw him on the power play .I think the ultimate goal for management is to give us a few good games but stick to the plan and tank for a good pick,nice try Kent.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Actually, I thought Dadonov had his best game last night. He showed speed on the wing, drove the play at times, particularly circling the net with the puck, and created several scoring chances for himself and his linemates. Most importantly, his compete level was high. If he keeps it up, Dadonov’s marketability may well increase to the point that a competing team looking for experienced, secondary scoring may actually pay something for this, to date, disappointing player.

He would actually have to score for anyone to consider him for secondary scoring. He has 2 goals in 25 games. This is his last year in NHL. He's done.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

He would actually have to score for anyone to consider him for secondary scoring. He has 2 goals in 25 games. This is his last year in NHL. He's done.

If he replicates his effort and play last night, he will score.

 

[Tanknation]

I vote for Drouin being promoted to the first line

I never thought i'd say this but we need more Drouin

More Drouin, Dadanov, Gallagher, Hoffman etc. Please.

 

[Ajhccwrs]

I mean if you are here complaining about losses, its very apparent the plan is to give vets more ice time along with pp time to inflate their stats for purpose of trade. They are in tank mode just also in training mode for young players.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Our defense was f***ing garbage (defense as a team, not the D-men specifically), we blew a lot of grade-A scoring opportunities, and our PP was abhorrent.

I think our penalty killing approach is putrid. Instead of pressuring the puck holder, we basically have a passive box where all 5 players are playing goalie. Everyone is largely stationary, assuming the block shot stance and flopping on the ice ala Hall Gill. I know your best penalty killer is supposedly your goalie, but do we really need 5 goalies on the ice?

 

[Tanknation]

Was at the game tonight and can definitely say the crowd was only truly electric when Habs fans were cheering and active. Otherwise the crowd was tame which if you're a Sens fan is not ideal considering its a home game. Another thing was the refing. It was just inconsistent and anytime the refs are a factor in the game, Id say they failed their job that game and tonight was that case. Dach should not have been given an extra 2 which considering the score was basically giving the Sens a chance to end the game. Then when late in the 3rd with the game on the line they make a soft call that basically finished the game there by eating away 2 minutes. Habs were flat in the 2nd and it cost them, but the refing added to the challenges they had.

That penalty at the end was not even soft, as there was no infraction at all. He lifted and hooked right at his stick for split second. That is a legal play in hockey.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I just watched the highlights of the game.

Yeah, Evans has no offense because he hasn't been putting up big numbers playing on the 4th line with Pez, Dadonov, Armia, etc...

Speaking of Armia, he reminds me a lot of Kovalev when carrying the puck. Hope he can break out.

Yeah, he's like the teddy bear version of Kovalev.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

That was armias best game of the season and he didint get a point , oh well see you in 20 games Joel when you have another good one

 

[26Mats]

Yeah, he's like the teddy bear version of Kovalev.

The guy's a player that I really like as a 4th liner. Has the potential to be an x factor at any moment and brings puck possession to any line. It's just his cap hit is double or triple what it should be.

 

[rickthegoon]

I think our penalty killing approach is putrid. Instead of pressuring the puck holder, we basically have a passive box where all 5 players are playing goalie. Everyone is largely stationary, assuming the block shot stance and flopping on the ice ala Hall Gill. I know your best penalty killer is supposedly your goalie, but do we really need 5 goalies on the ice?

I would go as far as saying that if it wasn’t for Allen and Monty, we « should » be sitting around 32nd in the league for our p.k., same spot as our p.p. This situation needs to be addressed asap, and all fingers should be pointing at our specials unit coach.

 

[OldCraig71]

Yeah, he's like the teddy bear version of Kovalev.

Armia is the most frustrating player on the current roster, he can be so much more.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Armia is the most frustrating player on the current roster, he can be so much more.

The cowardly lion finding his courage is just a dream.

 

[Naslundforever]

I thought he showed some speed and creativity tonight, including his missed breakaway. Problem is, the fan base has gone so sour no matter what Drouin does positively, the angry crowd will never be appeased. I've seen this sad story for more than sixty years: the need for a collective whipping boy.

He’ll always look skillful because he is. And he knows how the game should be played, he’s a gym and video rat.

However (sry!) 15 goals TOTAL since the 18-19 season (yes. Total. And obviously none this year) for a strictly offensive player who gets o-zone starts + 1st wave powerplay (goal-less in a full year on the pp at some point iirc) + the tva and many chauvinistic local media « you can’t talk bad about our boy » situation has exasperated many of us years ago. I don’t think it can ever turn around. The salary, preferential treatment and complete lack of any production since he joined the team are too much. It’s not like he was picked at random as a whipping boy to fill some fetish. If he needs protecting, habs should buy him out.

Now I don’t use social media, so I don’t consider « twitter hate » to be a real thing; I imagine it’s ugly on there.. Everyone should just delete Facebook and Twitter and stop encouraging society-destroying billionnaires that give anonymous 13 year old boys a venting channel to spread hate and create trending falsehoods.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Armia is the most frustrating player on the current roster, he can be so much more.

Armia and a 3rd rounder for Boeser. Add a B prospect like Kapanen if you have to. I think this gets the deal done and both players can use a change of teams.

Armia has a good shot but he's not winning too many puck battles. It's one thing to struggle with production but what are you doing in other areas when you are snake bit on production? In Armia's case, not much last season and this season.

Got his contract and is coasting it appears

 

[Naslundforever]

Nope. He is blaming l'indiscipline.

He was pissed at the refs

 

[Tyson]

He was pissed at the refs

He was a maestro at calling out the refs without calling them out. Very skilled communicator.

Armia and a 3rd rounder for Boeser. Add a B prospect like Kapanen if you have to. I think this gets the deal done and both players can use a change of teams.

Armia has a good shot but he's not winning too many puck battles. It's one thing to struggle with production but what are you doing in other areas when you are snake bit on production? In Armia's case, not much last season and this season.

Got his contract and is coasting it appears

I can't imagine any team who would take Armia and his contract.
Waivers is more realistic. He is not playing like an NHL player.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He was a maestro at calling out the refs without calling them out. Very skilled communicator.


I can't imagine any team who would take Armia and his contract.
Waivers is more realistic. He is not playing like an NHL player.

If you offer a 3rd and B prospect like Kapanen on top, it might get your Boeser. Canucks save cap space and get two little futures. I think this is what they are after.

I agree Armia on his own is not one other teams will bite on. Part of a circumstantial trade package... Maybe

 

[SlafySZN]

I was at work all night and didn't get a chance to know the score. After reading some poste here, I'm not interrested watching the game tomorrow. I think this team will tank for real. They were wrongfully good with the addition of Monahan. Now that the only good line is Su-CC-Da, it's too easy to check one line. Only one player, playing an important position of center #2 and the whole team change for a .500 team. Without him this team will drop dramaticly. Without Moneyhand, even Price in nets couldn't make the difference. I didn't watch the game but I'm sure the goalies were not the reason they lost.

What killed them is the penalties in the 2nd period, kinda like against the Oilers last week but otherwise they probably would have won lol ottawa has a great PP but they didn’t play a very good game (either were the habs).

 

[dinodebino]

I mean if you are here complaining about losses, its very apparent the plan is to give vets more ice time along with pp time to inflate their stats for purpose of trade. They are in tank mode just also in training mode for young players.

At least a few get it.

 

[HuGort]

Dvorak played well I thought. 9 for 10 on draws scored a goal

 

[SlafySZN]

He played 1100 games , yet can't see his powerplay needs a complete overhaul and new strategy but they keep using the same garbage as last years.

Played 1100 games but doesn't know when the need team a timeout to put them back in place.

Played 1100 games but he should know players like Dadonov or Wideman are not the future. If I was a Caufield , id rather grow with Guhle on the PP over all the veteran plugs they put in because he wants to please everyone.

Wayne Gretzky also tried to coach and was beyond horrendous. Being a player and coaching are 2 different things. Not because you played the game means you know how to prepare your team mentally everyday during training and gametime.

I find this excuse pretty easy and really non-effective.

Guhle is playing 23 minutes a night as a 20 years old.

knowing how you find anything to bash on MSL if Guhle was playing 26 minutes a night with PP times and was less effective because of it you’d say MSL doesn’t know how to use a rookie effectively and that he’s tiring them.

 

[Tyson]

If you offer a 3rd and B prospect like Kapanen on top, it might get your Boeser. Canucks save cap space and get two little futures. I think this is what they are after.

I agree Armia on his own is not one other teams will bite on. Part of a circumstantial trade package... Maybe

-7
2 assists in 18 games and getting power play time.
2 more years after this one at 3.4 mil per.

What was Bergevin thinking?

Guhle is playing 23 minutes a night as a 20 years old.

knowing how you find anything to bash on MSL if Guhle was playing 26 minutes a night with PP times and was less effective because of it you’d say MSL doesn’t know how to use a rookie effectively and that he’s tiring them.

I would make an adjustment that is pretty simple-
Put Guhle on the PP and add PK responsibilities to Xhekaj. He can battle players in front of the net and keep the slot clear.

 

[Habs Halifax]

-7
2 assists in 18 games and getting power play time.
2 more years after this one at 3.4 mil per.

What was Bergevin thinking?

What I remember was we expected Armia to get $4M+ after that playoff run. There was a fair amount of discussion on that and when he was signed, it was lower than what we expected. He clearly has more to offer but it's just not happening cause he is on the uninspired side.

Yeah, don't remind me that we signed Hoffman and Armia and let Danault walk. Never going to get over that.