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Rumor: Dreger: Belief that Mason McTavish is going to be traded

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Would be strange for him to return the 9th overall pick+ when Zegras was dealt last summer for a 3rd line center and a 2nd.
Two entirely different situations. Z was going to need a long term contract and probably would have wanted far more than PV was willing to pay. McT was signed long term by him at a fairly reasonable AAV, so there's no urgent 'need' to move him (unless the cap space is suddenly needed).

Also if the returns aren't what PV is looking for (no bargain basement offers to be considered), he can just have his expected bounce back (the reasons for which have been thoroughly explained) with Anaheim, raising his value even more. Unless trading him is for a significant upgrade or timeline age appropriate top RHD, they're better off keeping him.

And if he is kept I'm sure that PV will have a serious talk with Q about proper utilization & linemates.
 
I don't think Spence makes sense in Anaheim. They are losing size and strength on the right side to pair with skill that's on the left side.

They need more of a defensive presence than what spence brings, especially since luneau is ticketed for an NHL role now.
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I don't think the Sens should package the 9th for MacT but ideally #25 + a couple assets.

I'm not sure how enticing that'd be for Anaheim to do, though. Even if he doesn't fit in with the core of the group, there's still room for a lot of development.
 
The only two guys on there without extremely restrictive trade protection is Trocheck and Wright, of which one of them is good and the other is a much larger reclamation project than McTavish is.

Larkin has a full NTC, Matthews and Pettersson both have full NMCs, and Barzal has a 22 team NTC. Their prices will be high but there's a lot of teams locked out from the bidding process that will want upgrades.
Tkachuk gave a list of 4 teams and got a top 10 pick, two more firsts and a second, with everyone and their dog knowing where we was going to end up.

Larkin as asked for a trade, Matthews probably has the same 4 teams he wants to go to as Brady did, and Pettersson has been ameanible to waiving for the right offer, if not the right team. Hell, Hughes got us a top flight D prospect, a top six C prospect, another forward prospect (both were recent first round picks) and another first, and he gave us 2 teams to trade him too apparently, without an NMC but with our management bending over backwards for him. McTavish has had a percieved (emphasis on percieved) rocky relationship with the Ducks organization, and has come up as a tradable asset for the last few years pretty consistently, so that would lower his percieved value too.

If we're talking 9th overall+ for McTavish, I'd argue that could better be put towards someone with better output than McTavish has shown. If we're counting NMCs and NTCs as restrictions, I am sure there are teams Mason wouldn't want to resign with, that therefore wouldn't put a high bid in on him either (I am well aware he's signed for 5 more years, but the whole point of being younger is to get more years out of a player, long term).

From Ottawa's perspective, if they just traded their captain for what they got, and then took the 9th overall and, say, the second round pick they got, and flipped that for McTavish, would that seem like a great investment for them? Tkachuk for McTavish, the 24th overall and a future first years from now? With Stutzle and Pinto, that doesn't sound like a great investment.

They could invest in another, cheaper player for wing too. Debrusk or Boeser (as a Canucks example) could be had for much less then the 9th overall, and have more goals every season than McTavish. Would they prefer the younger, more physical C? Maybe. They also might want to cover the loss of a goal scoring winger with a "win now" option that won't cost the centerpiece of their Tkachuk return, and bring in some grit or another C in another way. And keep a top 10 pick.

I mean Pettersson isn't getting Ottawa's 9th overall pick, and he's outscored McTavish every year except 2024-2025, due to injuries on Petey's part, and while he's older and softer, he has a better track record as a scorer and is rock solid defensively.

Hell, O'Connor, while being older (28), had as many goals, as much grit, is a third the cap hit, and could be had for a song, relatively speaking. If Grit is main focus in this trade.

If youth is the focus...I mean it's a top 10 pick with a pretty good selection of Cs in that 9th overall range. A, 18 year old is younger than a 23 year old, no more explanation required. They just need to be secure in getting a 40-50 point projection out of them long term, which isn't a stretch.

I'm not saying Anaheim should accept less then their guy is worth, but his value to you isn't the value to a potential buyer. McTavish is a great asset, and might be able to pull a top 10 pick, to the right team. It's not guareneed a team with a pick in that range is the right team. If Johnson traded our 3rd overall for him, we (as fans) would take the streets, as we are prone to.
 
If the 9th pick isn’t in play, why would the ducks even bother trading him? There is zero reason to rush to trade him if the package isn’t worth it coming back. He is still young, still has plenty of growth left, and his numbers can easily bounce back as the ducks get better and better each year. He is signed for years aswell lol.
 
If the 9th pick isn’t in play, why would the ducks even bother trading him? There is zero reason to rush to trade him if the package isn’t worth it coming back. He is still young, still has plenty of growth left, and his numbers can easily bounce back as the ducks get better and better each year. He is signed for years aswell lol.
Of course it’s in play. MacT is a horse!
 
The only two guys on there without extremely restrictive trade protection is Trocheck and Wright, of which one of them is good and the other is a much larger reclamation project than McTavish is.

Larkin has a full NTC, Matthews and Pettersson both have full NMCs, and Barzal has a 22 team NTC. Their prices will be high but there's a lot of teams locked out from the bidding process that will want upgrades.

Yeah, describing most of those guys as "available" depends highly on who's doing the inquiring. And for several, you likely ain't getting one of those guys without giving up a quality C of your own.

I don't think there's a lot of C-needy teams thinking it's a buyer's market for C's right now.
 
Yeah, describing most of those guys as "available" depends highly on who's doing the inquiring. And for several, you likely ain't getting one of those guys without giving up a quality C of your own.

I don't think there's a lot of C-needy teams thinking it's a buyer's market for C's right now.
A lot of “ beeker is going to Zegras this again “ energy via MacT lately. Now we’re seeing that MacT could pull the 9th pick +…. Beeker you mad man! Gettttt er done beeker get errrrr done 🫡
 
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McTavish has had a percieved (emphasis on percieved) rocky relationship with the Ducks organization, and has come up as a tradable asset for the last few years pretty consistently, so that would lower his percieved value too.
You have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about regarding McTavish. Where did you pull this nonsense from? First off, the only “rockiness” that could be perceived would be from his long contract negotiation or from his handful of scratches by Quenville throughout the past season. Secondly, he’s only four seasons into his career and less than a year from being extended to a long term contract, yet you’re saying he’s consistently been in trade talks for a few seasons?? Up until this season, he’s been looked at as a core piece. That’s one season…not 3 or more, as a few generally indicates.
 
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Minus player. Worst on his team.
40-50 points four seasons in.
Scratched a few times.
16th on the team in TOI.
Got less ice time last season than any season since his rookie year.

I won't pretend I watch Ducks games, but I'll eat my hat if you get a top 10 pick here.
 
Minus player. Worst on his team.
40-50 points four seasons in.
Scratched a few times.
16th on the team in TOI.
Got less ice time last season than any season since his rookie year.

I won't pretend I watch Ducks games, but I'll eat my hat if you get a top 10 pick here.
That's the thing though: A team trading for Mctavish is hoping he can produce better with more ice-time.
 
You have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about regarding McTavish. Where did you pull this nonsense from? First off, the only “rockiness” that could be perceived would be from his long contract negotiation or from his handful of scratches by Quenville throughout the past season. Secondly, he’s only four seasons into his career and less than a year from being extended to a long term contract, yet you’re saying he’s consistently been in trade talks for a few seasons?? Up until this season, he’s been looked at as a core piece. That’s one season…not 3 or more, as a few generally indicates.
So there is no reason to percieve a problem, except for the reasons listed. I didn't claim he wanted out, or he hated the state of California, or that he lost his will to play for Anaheim. I said there were rough, or rocky, patches concerning a third overall pick a few seasons ago to where we are now. I can point to a minor spats with other star players and their teams that played a part in them leaving the team, even years earlier.

A few seasons, as in possibly more than two. Core pieces can be moved. Even the extended contract negotiations stretches it to two. I'll concede that before that, I might have remembered hearing "teams are interested in McTavish" or fans here were sure they were going to trade for him in an off season or something. That's no different than, say, Nylander or Pettersson when they held out for longer than the offseason to get their raises.
 
Are you sure? There’s no RHD under contract right now. Seems like it would make a lot of sense for the base of a package.
There's a few RHD with little to no NHL experience in their system. Running them all on the right side would be less than ideal (or having someone like Zell play his offside), but Spence isn't the answer as he'd maybe be in a similar spot on the depth chart. And certainly not as a decent sized part of a McT trade.

Perhaps if he was 6'5", 225, and mean as a snake...but alas
 
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I know Americans can read or logic their way out of a wet paper bag due to education cuts since Reagen was in office, but you can always find a doctor to pay your entire lifes wage to to have a skin tag removed.
 

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