Rumor: Dreger: Belief that Mason McTavish is going to be traded

[Leo2Cutter]

I'm curious if Spence and #25 for MacTavish and Zellweger would be enough. I think Ottawa has to add a bit there but not a crazy amount.

I think it’s plausible, agree Anaheim would prob want something else tho

 

[Static]

Spence is the real wildcard to me here. I think he makes so much sense for Anaheim, I'm just not sure that he's the kind of guy Verbeek would want to add at all. I do think Zellweger is gone this off-season so it at least is a positional fit, but I just can't tell if Verbeek would put that high of value on Spence in a trade like that.

I don't think Spence makes sense in Anaheim. They are losing size and strength on the right side to pair with skill that's on the left side.

They need more of a defensive presence than what spence brings, especially since luneau is ticketed for an NHL role now.

 

[sampollock]

OTT

 

[SEALBound]

From an Ottawa perspective it makes ZERO sense.

I assumed they wanted McT in to be the Brady-Lite

 

[Breakers]

I mean if McTavish lives there in the offseason

Keeping the top 10 pick and getting McTavish

Not bad if they can pull it off

 

[JiggywithGibby]

I'm not so sure. #25 plus a roster player feels more likely.

25 and a second was just paid for Mackie Samoskevich's RFA rights.

Shit UFA pool not only means high UFA prices, it means high trade prices if you're using predominantly futures, especially for a team in the Sens position.

 

[Masked]

I assumed they wanted McT in to be the Brady-Lite

So they'd trade a player who got more ice time than Brady for a lesser version of Brady? How does that make any sense?

 

[Static]

25 and a second was just paid for Mackie Samoskevich's RFA rights.

Shit UFA pool not only means high UFA prices, it means high trade prices if you're using predominantly futures, especially for a team in the Sens position.

Mctavish makes $7 million a year, which has to be taken into account.

 

[JiggywithGibby]

Mctavish makes $7 million a year, which has to be taken into account.

Bobby McMann just signed for nearly $6M AAV. Macs contract isn't a problem. It's middle 6 money in this league and Mac is a middle 6 player today.

 

[Static]

Bobby McMann just signed for nearly $6M AAV. Macs contract isn't a problem. It's middle 6 money in this league and Mac is a middle 6 player today.

The question is if other teams view him ultimately as a middle six player. If they do, he isn't pulling a top 10 pick.

Greig/Yakemchuk + 25 isn't a bad return.

And yes, sens fans, I know greig and Yak are different value propositions and yes I know you don't want to move the kid.

 

[SEALBound]

So they'd trade a player who got more ice time than Brady for a lesser version of Brady? How does that make any sense?

3C for a top 6 wing. Both are young and on good contracts.

It's not like it's an outrageous suggestion. I didn't say you had to include your first born child or anything.

 

[Hale The Villain]

25 and a second was just paid for Mackie Samoskevich's RFA rights.

Shit UFA pool not only means high UFA prices, it means high trade prices if you're using predominantly futures, especially for a team in the Sens position.

How high of a price can a team pay for this player, who was healthy scratched by his team in the playoffs a month ago:



If the Ducks are able to get a 1st round pick and another good asset in return, that seems pretty reasonable to me.

 

[JackieDaytona]

Maybe but all the upside in that scenario goes to Ottawa. If McTavish becomes the 70-80 point 2C he looked to be just a year ago then the trade is yet another loss for Verbeek. I think they have to make this trade count.

But that’s the thing, he doesn’t look like that. His value is not any of that. He’s not returning bath or yak or the 9th overall.

 

[Malkinstheman]

I think he ends up in Winnipeg. The only way they can fill out their second line is with trades. They have the 8th overall to dangle here as well

 

[JiggywithGibby]

How high of a price can a team pay for this player, who was healthy scratched by his team in the playoffs a month ago:



If the Ducks are able to get a 1st round pick and another good asset in return, that seems pretty reasonable to me.

Whatever Verbeek demands to be payed. That's kind of the entire point, there is no looming extension for McT to put a clock on the issue, there's no trade protection to limit the bidding pool like there was on Brady, and the league still has intrigue on him based on his draft position.

Kirby Dach got 13OA+ and his best season was 26 points prior to the trade. Stating Mac can't get 9OA plus doesn't track with reality.

 

[tornado24]

I think he ends up in Winnipeg. The only way they can fill out their second line is with trades. They have the 8th overall to dangle here as well

I agree Chevy should just sweeten the pot a little with Nikita Chibrikov or Parker Ford

 

[toddkaz]

I wonder if McTavish for Wright makes sense here?

 

[Cogburn]

Normally, I'd say it's the worst kind of move we can make, but McTavish for the 24th overall pick. What kind of piece would Anaheim be looking for? Roster or future? Forward or D or goalie?

 

[Cogburn]

Whatever Verbeek demands to be payed. That's kind of the entire point, there is no looming extension for McT to put a clock on the issue, there's no trade protection to limit the bidding pool like there was on Brady, and the league still has intrigue on him based on his draft position.

Kirby Dach got 13OA+ and his best season was 26 points prior to the trade. Stating Mac can't get 9OA plus doesn't track with reality.

Keeping in mind Larkin, Matthews, Trocheck, Pettersson, Barzal and Wright, among others, are all available too. While the C market is at a high water mark, a high tide raises all boats.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Whatever Verbeek demands to be payed. That's kind of the entire point, there is no looming extension for McT to put a clock on the issue, there's no trade protection to limit the bidding pool like there was on Brady, and the league still has intrigue on him based on his draft position.

Kirby Dach got 13OA+ and his best season was 26 points prior to the trade. Stating Mac can't get 9OA plus doesn't track with reality.

Is he going to remain in Quenneville's doghouse in 26/27? Hard to see his value increasing unless that changes.

Dach was traded 3 seasons after being drafted (really just 2 seasons since he almost missed 20/21 with injury), whereas McTavish just finished his 5th season post-draft.

I suspect when Dach was traded he was thought of as more of prospect than McTavish, who is probably viewed around the league closer to guys like Zegras and Lafreniere last summer.

Would be strange for him to return the 9th overall pick+ when Zegras was dealt last summer for a 3rd line center and a 2nd.

 

[Bouboumaster]

McTavish to Montréal

Do it Kent Hughes

 

[JiggywithGibby]

Keeping in mind Larkin, Matthews, Trocheck, Pettersson, Barzal and Wright, among others, are all available too. While the C market is at a high water mark, a high tide raises all boats.

The only two guys on there without extremely restrictive trade protection is Trocheck and Wright, of which one of them is good and the other is a much larger reclamation project than McTavish is.

Larkin has a full NTC, Matthews and Pettersson both have full NMCs, and Barzal has a 22 team NTC. Their prices will be high but there's a lot of teams locked out from the bidding process that will want upgrades.

 

[JiggywithGibby]

Is he going to remain in Quenneville's doghouse in 26/27? Hard to see his value increasing unless that changes.

Dach was traded 3 seasons after being drafted (really just 2 seasons since he almost missed 20/21 with injury), whereas McTavish just finished his 5th season post-draft.

I suspect when Dach was traded he was thought of as more of prospect than McTavish, who is probably viewed around the league closer to guys like Zegras and Lafreniere last summer.

Would be strange for him to return the 9th overall pick+ when Zegras was dealt last summer for a 3rd line center and a 2nd.

Verbeek also hated Zegras and wanted Poehling and traded Zegras after two horrid, injury riddled seasons. McTavish's off season still put up 40+ pts.

Q's contract is up in a year, McT is up in 5, and Q doesn't make the roster, plus Anaheim is without Terry for half the season. There's room to get McT more ice time, and he'll have a full camp in a regular pace season to play in. He'll be fine.

 

[robbieboy3686]

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I’d personally be cool with 9th, idk that Sens would offer it… but would give us a shot at a RHD in the draft.

I’d be cool with Spence/grieg…. But idk that PV would be cool with Spence lol

Yeah I think Spence is a pretty decent Dman but he isn't a fit. The Ducks "have a need" for top 4 capable RHD but aren't short on RHD depth. Spence is best suited as a bottom pairing puck mover who can move up as needed, nothing we don't already have in Zellweger who can play both sides, or Moore who is younger and shows greater upside. Plus I just don't see PV coveting a smaller/non physical Dman.