Player Discussion Drake Batherson (RW) - Part II

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How much are their ppg guys getting paid ?

Batherson is not a shut down winger. He is paid to produce and that is what he is doing .I get bitching about our D core it sucks. But Batherson is not a problem on this team
He's been horrible this year. Love the player but let's get serious. His puck management and d zone positioning has been atrocious. He can be way better. League worst plus minus and it's been well deserved. He creates offense but it comes at a serious price.
 
He's been horrible this year. Love the player but let's get serious. His puck management and d zone positioning has been atrocious. He can be way better. League worst plus minus and it's been well deserved. He creates offense but it comes at a serious price.
For such a night and day switch, it almost has to be something like the HC pressure between the ears.

He was so good last year, especially to start.
 
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I have been very disappointed with the Bathman this year. One of my two favorite players from last year; the other being Formenton... so pretty needless to say things took a downward swing in that regard.

I think I am seeing some signs of life with Batherson again... Still find his boots a little heavy... but his vision and his passing was good last night vs the sharks and we saw some of it vs the Rangers the night before. I hope its a sign that things are pushing in the right direction. Defensively is another story but he is tracking on the backcheck and making hits so thats something. He does continue to get on the wrong side of pucks and fishes for them vs fights for them more than I'd like. Dzone is a whole other matter but I am trying to stay positive.
 
Lol, same coach as last year dude. He’s the only player who has fallen off a cliff.
same coach does not mean much. Players change as the get older. DIfferent buttons need to be pressed and guys need to be put in different situations. Batherson has not really had to pay for not playing defensively yet.

coaches job to get the most out of each guy and a lot of guys have struggled to do that so far
 
Maybe the injury is affecting him more than we all thought. It wasn’t a pretty one

He didn’t look the same when he came back to end the season last year. I just figured he was rusty and would come in hot this season, which obviously didn’t happen
 
same coach does not mean much. Players change as the get older. DIfferent buttons need to be pressed and guys need to be put in different situations. Batherson has not really had to pay for not playing defensively yet.

coaches job to get the most out of each guy and a lot of guys have struggled to do that so far
Well, you certainly have adopted the ‘coach is to blame’ mantra hook line and sinker, I’ll give you that.

I guess DJ should probably get a ton of props from you for Brady, G, DBC, Sanderson and Stu so far, not to mention Chabby getting back on track along with both goaltenders getting into a groove right? Since the head coach is clearly working his personal magic getting the most out of those guys…
 
Well, you certainly have adopted the ‘coach is to blame’ mantra hook line and sinker, I’ll give you that.

I guess DJ should probably get a ton of props from you for Brady, G, DBC, Sanderson and Stu so far, not to mention Chabby getting back on track along with both goaltenders getting into a groove right? Since the head coach is clearly working his personal magic getting the most out of those guys…
DBC still not scoring i do put part of the blame on the coaching for sure. I think they are doing great with Brady and Sanderson though they can also spread the PP time with branny sandy and chabot and icetime to no run Chabot into the ground.

DJ deserves credit for helping guys have good years but conversely he plays a hand in our reccord and guys struggling.

Overall the picture is looking pretty poor can you admit that ?
 
DBC still not scoring i do put part of the blame on the coaching for sure. I think they are doing great with Brady and Sanderson though they can also spread the PP time with branny sandy and chabot and icetime to no run Chabot into the ground.

DJ deserves credit for helping guys have good years but conversely he plays a hand in our reccord and guys struggling.

Overall the picture is looking pretty poor can you admit that ?
DBC has been playing pretty awesome hockey all around right now, he’s just been snake bitten in the tons of chances he’s getting. Another post tonight, sadly the coach can’t score goals for him, but he’s endlessly in good position to score and getting a ton of ice time. Conversely, Batherson has also had a ton of opportunity but is struggling.

Are you asking if the overall picture of the team looks pretty poor? No, I don’t agree with that sentiment in terms of expectations for the year. We had a rough November, again, which sucks, but we have played close in most games and lack experience and have been fragile when behind. I also see us absolutely dominate for stretches of games, so consistency is an issue, which comes back to inexperience, both players and HC.

We have a nice little stretching going and are closing in on .500 which is about where I suspected we’d be after 20 games, so we’re off for sure but not out of reach. I don’t think there are a ton of problems with the team, nor do I believe that everyone needs to be fired. I believe the guys need to get their confidence back, which they look to have done, and we need another top defender to help slot everyone properly.

We don’t look at this team or hockey in the same way, I like to focus on what is working and you like to focus on what isn’t so it’s no surprise that we struggle to agree on things.
 
Some of Batherson's minuses come from being on the ice when someone else on the team gives the puck away & they score on us. Let's not forget that some of the biggest mistakes this yr that ended up in our net were by some of our best players who he plays with. Some of it is his fault too he is another guy that could be more careful with the puck though, but I still think he is one of the best 3 players on the team although Pinto & Sanderson are going to push for these top spots too soon enough. Also interesting how important Norris was to this team given how many don't see him as a #1 centre or someone we should trade or move to the wing. He is a player that was very careful with the puck & puck possession. Clearly he is way more important to this team than most thought.
 
Some of Batherson's minuses come from being on the ice when someone else on the team gives the puck away & they score on us. Let's not forget that some of the biggest mistakes this yr that ended up in our net were by some of our best players who he plays with. Some of it is his fault too he is another guy that could be more careful with the puck though, but I still think he is one of the best 3 players on the team although Pinto & Sanderson are going to push for these top spots too soon enough. Also interesting how important Norris was to this team given how many don't see him as a #1 centre or someone we should trade or move to the wing. He is a player that was very careful with the puck & puck possession. Clearly he is way more important to this team than most thought.

this happens/has happened to every single NHL player since they started tracking +/- stats. Not a good excuse at all imo
 
How much are their ppg guys getting paid ?

Batherson is not a shut down winger. He is paid to produce and that is what he is doing .I get bitching about our D core it sucks. But Batherson is not a problem on this team
I think hs iin the top three of problems on this team. Maybe No.1
 
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DBC still not scoring i do put part of the blame on the coaching for sure. I think they are doing great with Brady and Sanderson though they can also spread the PP time with branny sandy and chabot and icetime to no run Chabot into the ground.

DJ deserves credit for helping guys have good years but conversely he plays a hand in our reccord and guys struggling.

Overall the picture is looking pretty poor can you admit that ?
DJ on the ice right now, doing some shooting drills with DBC. He is showing him how to take a wrist shot and aim for the corners, not the logo. He even has Mike Fisher on the ice talking to him about the dangers of shooting for the logo as it cost him 200 goals in the NHL.

He is a coach that truly cares. A players coach.
 
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How much are their ppg guys getting paid ?

Batherson is not a shut down winger. He is paid to produce and that is what he is doing .I get bitching about our D core it sucks. But Batherson is not a problem on this team

yea i sorta agree with that. we can get mad at Stutzle, Brady, Chabot, DBC a lot more considering their salaries vs Drakes.

But we all know he could be playing better. his ability to produce has more to do with most players getting prime deployment at ES/PP being able to hit near PPG now. Drake even has the bonus of being surrounded by good linemates in an environment he cant get benched. So his production flatters him.

Hopefully this means that when he actually starts playing good he goes PPG+.
 
DJ on the ice right now, doing some shooting drills with DBC. He is showing him how to take a wrist shot and aim for the corners, not the logo. He even has Mike Fisher on the ice talking to him about the dangers of shooting for the logo as it cost him 200 goals in the NHL.

He is a coach that truly cares. A players coach.
need results

that's what matters in coaching

Push the right buttons
 
Lol, no.

But that does sound right for a video game though.
I dont understand why you are so against a coaching change? It has been proven time and time again that it can set a team in the right direction. Coaches generally don't last through a rebuild

Freidman on 32 thoughts today was talking about a player who said that same thing that a coaching change or big player change can really give a team a boost.

I don't understand why people are so against that?
 
I dont understand why you are so against a coaching change? It has been proven time and time again that it can set a team in the right direction. Coaches generally don't last through a rebuild

Freidman on 32 thoughts today was talking about a player who said that same thing that a coaching change or big player change can really give a team a boost.

I don't understand why people are so against that?
I’m not necessarily against it at, in fact I had mentioned previously that it might be necessary in order to jump start the team if they didn’t get back on track. That’s not the issue though, it’s how you use DJ to blame for everything, now that Zaitsev was gone.

Both Dorion and Brady have both come out and backed the coach so it’s doubtful he gets moved, and now that we’re looking a ton better lately it’s even less so, for now, so it’s a moot point regardless.

I am against using DJ as a hammer for all the perceived nails you see though. Coaching is not why Batherson has been rough this season. It makes zero sense that most guys are playing well, excellent, or starting to play well again, while Bath continues to struggle mightily. He’s getting tons of opportunities and ice time, but looks lost.

We know that there is a huge off season elephant in the room that is already affecting another players ability to play in the league, but you keep on insisting that DJ just hasn’t hit the cheat code on the remote to get Bath going.

Get real.
 
I dont understand why you are so against a coaching change? It has been proven time and time again that it can set a team in the right direction. Coaches generally don't last through a rebuild

Freidman on 32 thoughts today was talking about a player who said that same thing that a coaching change or big player change can really give a team a boost.

I don't understand why people are so against that?
I'm generally for a coaching change but the argument against it is examples of teams that stuck it out and found success, so for example, many were calling for Ruff to be fired after a slow start this year, now NJD are arguably the best team in the league, people were calling for Cooper to be fired after TBay got swept in the first round, they went up to win back to back cups, there are a number of examples over the years and I guess some worry DJ could be the next since he's always had a bit of a flawed roster to work with.
 
LOL @ posters blaming others because they have ''coach to blame'' mantra while they pollute the board with their ''coach is god'' mantra :help:
 
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Some of Batherson's minuses come from being on the ice when someone else on the team gives the puck away & they score on us. Let's not forget that some of the biggest mistakes this yr that ended up in our net were by some of our best players who he plays with. Some of it is his fault too he is another guy that could be more careful with the puck though, but I still think he is one of the best 3 players on the team although Pinto & Sanderson are going to push for these top spots too soon enough. Also interesting how important Norris was to this team given how many don't see him as a #1 centre or someone we should trade or move to the wing. He is a player that was very careful with the puck & puck possession. Clearly he is way more important to this team than most thought.

Said every minus player in history
 
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