Confirmed with Link: Draisaitl re-signs 8y 8.5M AAV
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Up the Irons
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ok, what? Brady is THE greatest QB of alltime, and arguably the greatest football player of alltime. there isn't a single active hockey player that is comparable to him.
you want to compare Brady to a hockey player, start with someone like Mario Lemieux.
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the coach doesn't make the depth chart based on the salary structure. The only way the GM can change this is by forcing the coach's hand with a trade. As long as RNH is on the team and there isn't another viable alternate 2C, it will always be possible that Drai plays on McDavid's wing.
Stoneman89
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Agreed. Betcha Toews couldn't complete a 10 yard out under pressure.
But his will and leadership would compensate for his inability to make plays
it's 51%
Perhaps higher than 25% and being a fan of Eric Blair, lets say 52%.
If you stop someone scoring its as good as a point.
Those are the intangibles that pay.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Again, he's not doing it alone, and he's not overwhelmingly special at it, he's just better then average.
It's a situation where Toews is more myth and legend then actual player.
He's not one of the best 100 players of all time, he's not that close actually and he's the most overpaid player in the entire history of the league.
He makes $10.5M a year to be a 50-60 point center who can play defense? So like a not dirty, less offensive Ryan Kesler.
Its a funny thing team sports.
Im pretty sure when you look down the bench and see Toews doing up his skates every player in that room feels like they can win.
And they have.
Jimmi McJenkins
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So you're convinced they've won because of Toews. I'm convinced the team has won and Toews was there.
He contributed, but so did 30 other players to varying degrees. He's a very good player, but if you need him to be a Legend, go nuts. He's just not that player and extremely overrated and overpaid.
Drai will likely play on McDavid's wing at times in moments when the team is struggling and needs an offensive kickstart but I fully believe that they intend on starting Drai at #2C and place RNH in a more offensive role alongside a line driver where his responsibility will be lessened because lets be honest, RNH hasn't shown that he's capable of driving his own line.
I personally love the idea of a Lucic-Draisaitl-RNH line. It would be the first time in forever that the Oilers would have a legit scoring 2nd line. I see them starting Strome at #3C.
Jimmi McJenkins
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I would be extremely happy with a lineup like this. Who would you have 1st line RW? Caggiula?
Yeah, I like Cagguila in that spot but I'm a bigger fan of him than most. I thought he clicked quite well with McDavid last season, has a good nose for the net and the speed to keep up. The coaches love this guy so I think he'll get a shot at some point in the top 6.
I'm sure we'll see many different lineups with so many versatile players.
I think the main pairs outside of occasional in game adjustments will be Maroon-McDavid, Lucic-Draisaitl, Letestu-Kassian and maybe Jokinen-Puljujarvi depending on Pulju's preseason play. RNH, Strome, Cagguila and Slepyshev will shuffle around. Really like the depth of this group even with some question marks and youth on RW.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. Caggiula is the kind of guy who can start there, but still be moved around the line-up without too much worry if the need for a change is there.
So maybe something like:
Maroon - McDavid - Caggiula
Lucic - Draisaitl - Nuge
Jokinen - Strome - Puljujarvi
Slepyshev - Letestu - Kassian
others, lol
rboomercat90
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Did you think Messier was over rated too?
I don't think Toews is as good as the Moose was but I think they are the same type of player bringing many of those similar intangibles you seem to have no use for. I'd be curious to read your thoughts on that.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Do you think Messier and Toews are remotely comparable? Messier isn't overrated, because he did both the leading and the scoring. ALOT of scoring.
Edit: Like seriously, Messier is probably (atleast) one of the top-50 players ever. Why do so many of you keep comparing Toews to players in a class where he does not belong? Why not compare him to Jean Béliveau next or Ron Francis. I mean just use Howe as the measuring stick, because it's basically the same BS.
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Jimmi McJenkins
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If we're being honest, Toews is basically the current NHL's Kirk Muller, he just has more hype behind him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Muller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Muller
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Jimmi McJenkins
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Both won Stanley Cups, have very comparable production (considering eras), Toews might be slightly better defensively.
I mean if wasn't for the mythos of Toews, the comparison would be easier to see for some.
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and Draisaitl is a lesser version of Jason Arnott.
Comparing Draisaitl to a potential HOFer like Toews is laughable at this point. Without a couple good games vs ANA Draisaitl is hardly a 7M player. Drai is good but maybe we should curb it down for a bit.
Jimmi McJenkins
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I guess he is then? I mean the markets are different, Leon is an elite (or appears to be) player in the league, so he's expensive.
Toews, is a medium scoring defensive center who gets $10.5M and gets credit for winning his team Stanley Cups, I hope Leon ends up with that problem.
Again, it's like we always talk about Henri Richard being one of the top-5 players in league history because he won himself 10 Stanley Cups.
