Proposal: Draisaitl for a cheaper 1 C with a + maybe

[ManofSteel55]

how about they go back in time and stop themselves from re-signing kris russell so they have money for their actual talent?

...we would have had to go sign a 2nd pair defenseman with Russell's money then...probably for more than what Russell is making.

 

[FF de Mars]

If that's what Montreal is offering for Draisaitl, He will remain in Edmonton as they rather easily match that and gladly match it.

I'd offer him Price's money and roll the dice.

 

[UnicornONtheCOBB]

I think Montreal stopped being a realistic trade partner for Leon after they moved the 2 main pieces that the Oilers would of been interested in.

PK Subban was the first one, a year ago, he was someone the Oilers would of loved to of acquired.

and

Sergachev. To me, he was the most valuable chip the Habs had if they wanted to trade for Draisaitl. I'm not someone who wants to move Leon, I'm a big fan, but, if the Habs offered...

Sergachev
Galchenyuk

for

Draisaitl

I would of been very tempted. It's not an option anymore, just like I don't see Montreal as having the right assets to acquire Draisaitl in a trade at this point.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Don't let Hurricane fans see this, most of them think that Faulk or Aho and a small plus could get Draisaitl.

This canes fan would do it

 

[Hunter368]

Love to have him of course on the jets, him and Mark as our two top line C's. But we're not trading Mark to get him. Very good player

 

[yababy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoticOrange View Post
Don't let Hurricane fans see this, most of them think that Faulk or Aho and a small plus could get Draisaitl.

This canes fan would do it

I wouldnt touch Hanafin or Faulk.
How can they have been -18 and -19 on the same team with
Pesce (+23) and Slavin (+23)?

 

[phlocky]

I wouldnt touch Hanafin or Faulk.
How can they have been -18 and -19 on the same team with
Pesce (+23) and Slavin (+23)?

I'm not saying the value is good or anything, just gonna comment on your post about the +/-. Maybe Hanafin and Faulk played against the other teams top line most of the time and the Canes had crappy defensive forwards who didn't help the situation at all. Maybe if Peace and Slavin had logged the same tough minutes with the same crappy defensive forwards as the other 2 than maybe their +/- would have been even worse.

 

[RangersBlue]

Before Stepan was traded I would have done...
To Oilers: Stepan + Graves + 21st + (maybe) Gropp
To Rangers: Draisaitl + 4th Rounder

 

[phlocky]

Okay, an Oilers fan suggested this in another thread, I know it's not what you were asking for but would you consider a deal centered around Coots from the Flyers for LD? Maybe Coots plus Sanheim? Or expand it to Coots plus Simmonds plus 2nd for LD plus Pulj?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Before Stepan was traded I would have done...
To Oilers: Stepan + Graves + 21st + (maybe) Gropp
To Rangers: Draisaitl + 4th Rounder

Not a chance. Stepan and futures doesn't get anywhere near Draisaitl.

That's like an Oiler fan suggesting RNH ++ for Jack Eichel.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Okay, an Oilers fan suggested this in another thread, I know it's not what you were asking for but would you consider a deal centered around Coots from the Flyers for LD? Maybe Coots plus Sanheim? Or expand it to Coots plus Simmonds plus 2nd for LD plus Pulj?

I sure wouldn't. Couturier is a 3C - a good one - but his production isn't too 6 worthy and we have Sanheim level prospects.

IMO youd need to start with Provorov and go from there - and if we traded LD and Puljujarvi for Couturier and Simmonds I would stop being an Oiler fan on the spot. The difference is way more than a 2nd.

That's a trade that would bite us in the ass for the next ten years.

 

[sportsdynasty]

It's okay, the Oilers don't have what MTL wants in a trade for Pacioretty and/or Galchenyuk. We're not giving them away for peanuts, and we won't entertain killing our team to make yours any better. kthxbai.

The Oilers would never want to trade for Pacioretty or Gachenyuk. This is a salary cap league. Oilers have to pay their salary to much better top forwards - McDavid and Draistaitl.

Trade with a different team. You could have traded Subban for Draisaitl, but your GM turned down the trade.

 

[RangersBlue]

Not a chance. Stepan and futures doesn't get anywhere near Draisaitl.

That's like an Oiler fan suggesting RNH ++ for Jack Eichel.

Oilers probably couldn't afford my trade to begin with anyway. In my opinion, RNH doesn't even compare to Stepan at all. Stepan is way better and is guranteed to get you at least 50 points.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Oilers probably couldn't afford my trade to begin with anyway. In my opinion, RNH doesn't even compare to Stepan at all. Stepan is way better and is guranteed to get you at least 50 points.

Stepan is older, similar sized, more expensive, and stinks just as much on faceoffs. There's a reason he was just shipped down the river for futures. He produces a bit more but he also got the prime powerplay time and linemates in NYR, RNH hasnt had that since McDavid arrived.

He's not 'way' better. He's a bit better. And either way an awful starting point for Draisaitl when we have close to the exact same player in nugent Hopkins.

 

[McSuper]

Okay, an Oilers fan suggested this in another thread, I know it's not what you were asking for but would you consider a deal centered around Coots from the Flyers for LD? Maybe Coots plus Sanheim? Or expand it to Coots plus Simmonds plus 2nd for LD plus Pulj?

More like Couturier + Simmonds for Draisaitl

 

[TestGrave]

Stars fan who loves Seguin here... I'd swap Seguin for Drai. Also, I don't think it was ever said that Seguin is worse than Drai.

Edit: Wow, I'm really late to the party, thought it was only at the first page

 

[Oilwings]

Stars fan who loves Seguin here... I'd swap Seguin for Drai. Also, I don't think it was ever said that Seguin is worse than Drai.

Edit: Wow, I'm really late to the party, thought it was only at the first page

PC would never do that.

 

[yababy]

Stars fan who loves Seguin here... I'd swap Seguin for Drai. Also, I don't think it was ever said that Seguin is worse than Drai.

Edit: Wow, I'm really late to the party, thought it was only at the first page

3 Seguins don't get you 1 Draisaitl.
Seguin playoffs: 7G 21Pts in 49 games

 

[smackdaddy]

PC would never do that.

You're right, mainly due to Seguin's immaturity issues. Not that Chia hates Seguin or anything - Remember, he was moved out due to ownership pressure.

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

I doubt any team would be all that aggressive in chasing Draisaitl now unless they know for sure what his contract is going to be.

 

[Blotto71]

From Ottawa, Turris + Phaneuf + 2018 1st + prospect (Gagne/Perron). Would expect that Sekera would be included coming back to make room for Phaneuf.

Turris is a 2C, but a very capable one. He will likely be in line to make $6-6.5 on his next deal. Phaneuf can cause fits during the regular season but this past post-season was a beast defensively and absolutely does not get pushed around - if it matters, his actual dollars are dropping while his cap hit remains at $7mil.

So cap hits exchanged would be roughly equal (assuming, as the original poster stated, that Draisaitl demands north of $8). Certainly not sexy and the best player definitely goes East, but I don't know that the Oilers could ever really hope to "win" a trade involving Draisaitl.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

You're right, mainly due to Seguin's immaturity issues. Not that Chia hates Seguin or anything - Remember, he was moved out due to ownership pressure.

How is Seguin immature? Has he done something wrong?

 

[OnTheBrink]

From Ottawa, Turris + Phaneuf + 2018 1st + prospect (Gagne/Perron). Would expect that Sekera would be included coming back to make room for Phaneuf.

Turris is a 2C, but a very capable one. He will likely be in line to make $6-6.5 on his next deal. Phaneuf can cause fits during the regular season but this past post-season was a beast defensively and absolutely does not get pushed around - if it matters, his actual dollars are dropping while his cap hit remains at $7mil.

So cap hits exchanged would be roughly equal (assuming, as the original poster stated, that Draisaitl demands north of $8). Certainly not sexy and the best player definitely goes East, but I don't know that the Oilers could ever really hope to "win" a trade involving Draisaitl.

Terribad....

Draisaitl >>> Turris

Sekera > Phaneuf (when taking cap hit into account)

The Futures do next to nothing for Edmonton.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Terribad....

Draisaitl >>> Turris

Sekera > Phaneuf (when taking cap hit into account)

The Futures do next to nothing for Edmonton.

Ew, not many want Phaneuf.

 

[Blotto71]

Terribad....

Draisaitl >>> Turris

Sekera > Phaneuf (when taking cap hit into account)

The Futures do next to nothing for Edmonton.

I didn't say it was Terri-good, in fact, I suggested that Edmonton will not "win" any trade involving Draisaitl. Yes, Draisaitl is better offensively than Turris but the original poster posed the question and suggested that a lesser 1C be part of the return - Turris is the 1C in Ottawa, but would be better suited to a 2C role behind McDavid. Phaneuf is a more physical version of Sekera and was very tough to play against in the playoffs when whistles seem to get swallowed. As I mentioned, he is prone to causing fans fits during the regular season...but is Edmonton looking to win the President's Trophy or the Stanley Cup?

End of the day, if Draisaitl wants north of $8 million then the Oilers are likely going to have to just suck it up and pay, because the team's out there that could absorb that cap hit and return anything if value other than futures are few and far between. Otherwise the return will involve a mix of serviceable NHLers (and cap dollars) and futures.

It's an enviable position, having to decide to keep and pay a guy like Draisaitl or deal him. Good luck!