Prospect Info: Draft Thread | Oilers Select 4th Overall

[Soli]

Take the best dman available. Perhaps the Finnish kid...

The way Chiarelli describes the prospects and Chia's prevailing theme of "big & strong", I'd cut Juolevi out of the discussion and focus on Chychrun vs. Sergachev when talking about defensemen the Oilers will pick.

He describes Chychrun as "big strong defenseman can skate and move the puck". Describes Sergachev with "seen quite a few times, offensive defenseman, very strong for 18, quick set of wrists, can really shoot it, can really change the angle of a shot" He describes Juolevi as "very smart, very smooth, needs to get stronger, very cerebral passing the puck very well".

I just don't see Juolevi as a Chiarelli pick.

 

[Birdperson]

Eh? He just finished 4th in scoring at the WJC-U18 (beating Nylander) and he had a huge run to end the season. His size is definitely what makes him so intriguing but there is no doubt he has a lot of skill and he has one of the best shots in the entire draft. I think he'd make a great long-term winger for McDavid with his shot/size combination.

I'd rather go PLD or Tkachuk instead of a much riskier pick in Brown. Its just unnecessary risk.

 

[BarDownBobo]

This is probably just wishful thinking, but I wonder how much the Jackets might look at Dubois. I know it's easy to assume Jarmo wouldn't pass on the Finn, but they could really use a potential top center and Dubois sure would fit that bill....

 

[s7ark]

This is probably just wishful thinking, but I wonder how much the Jackets might look at Dubois. I know it's easy to assume Jarmo wouldn't pass on the Finn, but they could really use a potential top center and Dubois sure would fit that bill....

I'd say there is no chance at all the BJs pass on one of the Finns

 

[McShogun99]

I think if Laine was a center he'd go 1st OA. I'll admit it does sting a little to lose the chance to draft him.

 

[gordonhught]

This is probably just wishful thinking, but I wonder how much the Jackets might look at Dubois. I know it's easy to assume Jarmo wouldn't pass on the Finn, but they could really use a potential top center and Dubois sure would fit that bill....

During the pre-lottery interviews, Davidson was talking about the "2" top players in the draft. Would not surprise me if Dubois is ahead of the second rated Finnish winger on the Columbus draft board.

 

[Stud Muffin]

This is probably just wishful thinking, but I wonder how much the Jackets might look at Dubois. I know it's easy to assume Jarmo wouldn't pass on the Finn, but they could really use a potential top center and Dubois sure would fit that bill....

The top 3 is night and day better then the rest of the draft class.

 

[Consultant]

It's a shame all three top d are left shot... Maybe we are best to trade down and take a righty.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Honestly I'm still on the trade the pick wagon, Sergachev or Chychrun won't be ready for at least a couple of years. We don't have that kind of time, we're currently dealing with this problem with Nurse. We need him to be ahead of his development curve. I'd be up to send the pick out for a solid #2 Dman as long as we acquire another top 4 guy we'll be looking good on the back end.

Like

Klefbom - Hamonic
Sekera - Demers
Davidson - Nurse/Reinhart/Osterle/Fayne

Not a world beating group by any stretch but if we can then ship out Eberle for some more jam down the middle or on the wings.

 

[GRadio]

He's not deserving of a top 10 pick IMO. His hockey iq is to low.

 

[Noah88]

During the pre-lottery interviews, Davidson was talking about the "2" top players in the draft. Would not surprise me if Dubois is ahead of the second rated Finnish winger on the Columbus draft board.

No, the 2 Finns are at least 1 level ahead of Dubois/Tkachuk.
Puljujärvi is awesome and, if at all, not far behind Laine.

 

[McWeber]

The way Chiarelli describes the prospects and Chia's prevailing theme of "big & strong", I'd cut Juolevi out of the discussion and focus on Chychrun vs. Sergachev when talking about defensemen the Oilers will pick.

He describes Chychrun as "big strong defenseman can skate and move the puck". Describes Sergachev with "seen quite a few times, offensive defenseman, very strong for 18, quick set of wrists, can really shoot it, can really change the angle of a shot" He describes Juolevi as "very smart, very smooth, needs to get stronger, very cerebral passing the puck very well".

I just don't see Juolevi as a Chiarelli pick.

I feel like with Chiarelli he won't tip his hand too much but he makes it easy to read between the lines. I agree on Juolevi being the least glowing of the 3 D he reviewed, Sergachev seemed like the standout.

 

[Canovin]

If it comes down to Chychrun or Nurse. I prefer to trade Nurse for immediate upgrade on D. Chychrun just seems like a much smarter defenseman and has all the tools to become a stud #1D

 

[Halibut]

Honestly I'm still on the trade the pick wagon, Sergachev or Chychrun won't be ready for at least a couple of years. We don't have that kind of time, we're currently dealing with this problem with Nurse. We need him to be ahead of his development curve. I'd be up to send the pick out for a solid #2 Dman as long as we acquire another top 4 guy we'll be looking good on the back end.

Like

Klefbom - Hamonic
Sekera - Demers
Davidson - Nurse/Reinhart/Osterle/Fayne

Not a world beating group by any stretch but if we can then ship out Eberle for some more jam down the middle or on the wings.

We've been saying that for a decade and still dont have that guy. We need to make the time. We're in such a rush to be good now that we never think about a year or two in the future. So we load up on wingers that are good right away but dont fix the real needs of the team. If it was so easy to trade for a top d-man I'd be fine with it but it hasnt proven to be that way.

 

[The Bored Man]

Hang on, isn't the focus on trading the pick away, as opposed to trading down? The difference would be the pick plus Eberle for Subban, versus the pick for Montreal's 9OA plus a minor piece.

(Those proposals as are just illustrations, not actual proposals)

What's the point of trading down? We've got a glut of young defencemen but the forwards prospect pool is pretty thin. And, after falling out of the top three, the pick becomes expendable to get a legit defenceman.

My preference is to trade the pick away, but otherwise they should just take Dubois or Tkachuk.

 

[BarDownBobo]

No, the 2 Finns are at least 1 level ahead of Dubois/Tkachuk.
Puljujärvi is awesome and, if at all, not far behind Laine.

I just can't help but feel that Dubois is being overlooked. He's the only guy in the top 10-15 prospects that I haven't been able to watch unfortunately, but all the scouting reports and video I've seen make him seem like a fantastic prospect. Plus the fact that he's a center. I think he could be closer to Puljujarvi than people think.

 

[McRpro]

I remember being so excited when they picked him. Hockey News was comparing him to Lemiuex...

yup.

That was a few years after I became a die hard fan.

"Arnott last year and now a bigger, better Arnott? Awsome!!" my young self thought.

I was however mad when they took some bum named Smyth instead of Storr @6.

 

[Stud Muffin]

Have you watched him play? 6of the 10 scouts Mckenzie polled had him 10 or worse.

 

[OILSLICK94]

Fowler would be the definition of a whipping boy here in Edmonton.

Within our current system he would be Schultz 2.0

 

[frag2]

I think if Laine was a center he'd go 1st OA. I'll admit it does sting a little to lose the chance to draft him.

IMO, the only things that sting from losing the lottery are not seeing HF meltdown and putting up with media's Leafs lovefest

 

[OILSLICK94]

I rather Chia trade this pick than move RNH or Eberle.

Agreed but how does that change this group going forward? Cause something has to be done. One of the 6mil guys has to be moved. It's getting stale in here, plus thinking long term and expansion rules smart money is to deal one of RNH Eberle Hall. Yak is just about out the door then damn is that RW depth chart weak

 

[Mr Positive]

During the pre-lottery interviews, Davidson was talking about the "2" top players in the draft. Would not surprise me if Dubois is ahead of the second rated Finnish winger on the Columbus draft board.

that would be insane if we had Puljujarvi at that pick. All the reason not to jump the gun on a trade until we see exactly who is there.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jackets put that pick up for sale to find their center.

 

[BlackDogg]

Someone made an interesting point, if the Oilers had one their three consecutive 1OA picks 2007-2009 instead of 2010-2012, they'd have Kane, Stamkos, and Tavares. I'd rather have one of those guys than the three picks the oilers got.

Bad timing except for the McDavid pick.

 

[Soli]

Hang on, isn't the focus on trading the pick away, as opposed to trading down? The difference would be the pick plus Eberle for Subban, versus the pick for Montreal's 9OA plus a minor piece.

(Those proposals as are just illustrations, not actual proposals)

What's the point of trading down? We've got a glut of young defencemen but the forwards prospect pool is pretty thin. And, after falling out of the top three, the pick becomes expendable to get a legit defenceman.

My preference is to trade the pick away, but otherwise they should just take Dubois or Tkachuk.

This is the draft thread, so the prevailing talk should be draft and prospect focused. I think the majority of us want to trade the pick outright, but that shouldn't mean we cover our ears and close our minds to the scenario we use the pick to draft.

 

[McWeber]

Someone made an interesting point, if the Oilers had one their three consecutive 1OA picks 2007-2009 instead of 2010-2012, they'd have Kane, Stamkos, and Tavares. I'd rather have one of those guys than the three picks the oilers got.

Bad timing except for the McDavid pick.

Hindsight is 20 20, 1 goal made the difference from us drafting Patrick Kane. I am fine with the way things turned out, Mcjesus heals all wounds.