SprDaVE
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I just want a smart addition to this team. It still blows my mind we weren't more aggressive in the recent trades through the league. But lot's of time and lot's of avenues.
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I just want a smart addition to this team. It still blows my mind we weren't more aggressive in the recent trades through the league. But lot's of time and lot's of avenues.
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I'm sure he was there for rounds 2-7, but what else was he going to do while there, stay at the hotel and miss the excitement of the draft.
Drinking age in Tennessee 21 ...
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SprDaVE
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I think they just don't care between a 5'10" and a 6' player? Does it really make a difference?
It's just coincidences. Good players come in all sizes. Sometimes Knies will be that player. Sometimes it'll be Robertson. Sometimes it'll be Cowan. Sometimes it'll be Greb. Next year they could draft a 6'6" defenseman. Some teams might put emphasis on strength and size, the Leafs are not one of those teams. And it's not like Cowan in particular isn't strong, he tested one of the best at the combine in that stuff. The more open you are to not limit yourself into how a player needs to look, where they come from or what position they play, the more chances you give yourself at finding a NHLer.
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That pick was / will be a disaster. What is wrong with the Leafs? They were the only team to go off the board and ignore the top rated prospects everyone else picked from. Because they know better? Because they have superior insight? This was pathetic and small-time and a terrible sign. So is signing Kampf, keeping Keefe, etc., etc. Not ONE good sign yet.....
I agree, I would have went Gulyayev or Nadeau. I think Nadeau is a Kyle Connor type.
Definitely not old enough to appreciate Nashville like Brad and I would. I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the open bar Poile set up for the GM's
I've been thinking that for a week
Leaf land has been mighty quiet, boring
Make a trade Tre, even a bad one
I want to discuss it
WRONG
Arizona picked Simashev 6th overall. Even Simashev himself was surprised they reached that high lmao. I’ll attached his video. But that was easily the biggest reach of the draft. He was Rated as a second rounder by some scouts.
SprDaVE
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I've been thinking that for a week
Leaf land has been mighty quiet, boring
Make a trade Tre, even a bad one
I want to discuss it
It's been busy around the league. Leafs have been super quiet though for sure.
I guess Treliving would rather give Matthews his 3 year contract than to get something going.
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Sometimes we make the mistake of thinking they’re trying to build a Cup contending team.
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If the report that the Leafs' table buzzed with activity after Nashville's 24OA pick is true, it means one of two things:
1) Nashville picked the last player the Leafs had as highly rated in the 1st round and therefore wanted to pursue trading down
2) Nashville did not pick one of the four remaining players on the Leafs' list that they were hoping would be available at 28 so they knew they would be getting a player they wanted to pick at that position
1) Nashville picked the last player the Leafs had as highly rated in the 1st round and therefore wanted to pursue trading down
2) Nashville did not pick one of the four remaining players on the Leafs' list that they were hoping would be available at 28 so they knew they would be getting a player they wanted to pick at that position
No, you wrong. SImashev was ranked in the Top 10 by multiple outlets, though there was disagreement. Only Craig Big Mouth Button rated this guy as high as 34, the consensus was much worse.
ULF_55
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I've been thinking that for a week
Leaf land has been mighty quiet, boring
Make a trade Tre, even a bad one
I want to discuss it
Make a Tre trade, it will be a bad one ... at least half the posters here will agree.
Anything Du can do Tre can do better ... There was a song about that wasn't there?
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Sid's 6'1" - 6'2" is he?
Bedard is a smurf.
Did you not see that I said SOME. It’s a complete mixed bag for him.
Dmitri Simashev - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Dmitri Simashev, 2005-02-04 Kostroma, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with Lokomotiv Yaroslavl. Complete player biography and stats.
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Why is it a disaster? We don’t even know who he is yet.
I know most Leaf fans love shiny with expected goals and stuff, but I want skill with fit, form and function.
Hard work that can battle in the playoffs vs. stack your bank account. Need to give him a chance. I think Knies is a step in the right direction (he doesn’t need to be a superstar especially since you can’t afford a team of that) now let’s see what he can bring down the line. I’m dying for guys that can go through the wall, not through the front door of the bank.
My guess is the team was hoping for Gabe Perreault to fall to us. I imagine he was the last guy our team had ranked above Cowan if its true we had Cowan ranked 23.
So my guess is Treliving was on the phone finding a trade down scenario, and got offered nothing that warranted risking someone taking Cowan from us.
People need to realize that just because Sportsnet/TV/eliteprospects show a player ranked in a certain position, doesn't mean every NHL team sees the same thing. We apparently had Cowan ranked 23, chances are there was at least one team who rated him, within the next 15 picksish.
From what I've read, this kid is an elite skater, has a high motor, plays with heart. He's a local kid, and is coming from a good development program with the London Knights. All positive things IMO.
Kid is barely 17.5 years old, and already played himself up to the top line of the Knights, and had an impressive playoff run.
He could be primed for a massive year that will see his stock rise quite stongly.
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And as we all know, scouts are never wrong.
Why even bother having GMs, AGMs etc. Let's just have robots draft off of pre determined lists. Or better yet, the all knowing Zack47.
What in particular is it that you don't like about Cowan?
This fan base is so toxic even a late first rounder pick gets so much hate and bitched at lolll. I mean this is the same fan base that wants marner gone loll
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I was worried about Bedard until the WJHC when I noticed how thick he is. Bedard is 2 or 3 inches shorter and 5 lbs heavier than Marner, so he should be OK
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Didn't even look like he should have been rated in the 2nd round based on his performance last year.
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And as we all know, scouts are never wrong.
Why even bother having GMs, AGMs etc. Let's just have robots draft off of pre determined lists. Or better yet, the all knowing Zack47.
What in particular is it that you don't like about Cowan?
ULF_55
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They're gonna sign a bunch of free agents with all their capspace.
j/k
They're going to ride their 11 core players into the ground.
Wish we had some second rounders, there's always good value players to be had.
The severe lack of top60 and top90 picks we have over this and the next two drafts is deeply concerning. The model of success is the Blackhawks where successful drafting and development means constantly shipping out high end depth players like Shaw and Bolland for draft hauls once they get too expensive. Our model is to spend all of our assets on rentals. Gotta be drafting to be developing, we can't expect 5th round picks and NCAA juniors to give us a pipeline. I'm enthusiastic about the Cowan pick, but we should be hoping for two NHL players per draft. Odds of Cowan AND one of our 5th/6th hitting just aren't there.
Team needs a retool.
The severe lack of top60 and top90 picks we have over this and the next two drafts is deeply concerning. The model of success is the Blackhawks where successful drafting and development means constantly shipping out high end depth players like Shaw and Bolland for draft hauls once they get too expensive. Our model is to spend all of our assets on rentals. Gotta be drafting to be developing, we can't expect 5th round picks and NCAA juniors to give us a pipeline. I'm enthusiastic about the Cowan pick, but we should be hoping for two NHL players per draft. Odds of Cowan AND one of our 5th/6th hitting just aren't there.
Team needs a retool.
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