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Speculation: Draft Thread 2018-19: Part X (No Kakko/Hughes Talk) - Post Your Mock Draft

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He’s one kid I wouldn’t be shocked to see us take at 20. It’d depend who’s on the board still, but this kid was an absolute beast in the USHL this year.
 
I Eat Crow said:
York is falling to no fault of his own. He's been a consistent contributor on the NTDP back end. He's falling because so many players previously behind him increased their stock.
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And a lot of people are on some ‘USNTDP numbers are inflated, how good is x player really’ stuff
 
Just got tix for the draft party as well. Seems like it might be a bit of a NYR season ticket-selling party but that's all good.
 
GeorgeKaplan said:
And a lot of people are on some ‘USNTDP numbers are inflated, how good is x player really’ stuff
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It would be silly to not take that into account. Of course all their numbers are a bit inflated, they were on the most dominate offensively gifted USNTDP team in history.
 
Mac n Gs said:


He’s one kid I wouldn’t be shocked to see us take at 20. It’d depend who’s on the board still, but this kid was an absolute beast in the USHL this year.
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Definitely a riser. Was not a name I heard at all until the playoffs started in the NHL.
 
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The Crypto Guy said:
It would be silly to not take that into account. Of course all their numbers are a bit inflated, they were on the most dominate offensively gifted USNTDP team in history.
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I’m not saying not to take it into account, I just feel like the pendulum has swung too far into how much value people are putting into it
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
The boots scare me but he's got a great shot.
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Yeah, and it’d have to be a really weird class for me to be ok with him at 20. He’s someone I would’ve used that DAL OR TB pick on if we had it. The shot is great, and I don’t think the speed is much of an issue since he’s smart and can play with pace. My issues are mostly him not being a sufficient playmaker at an NHL level. He’s really smart in 1v1 situations, but idk if the ability to utilize his teammates is really there. He’s also gotten by defensively by mainly using his size, not smarts.

However, the kid can definitely rip the puck and will probably be a really good powerplay threat, either from the right circle or net front.
 
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In regards to amount of picks, here's where most of the other teams stand one week away from the entry draft:


Columbus with only a 3rd and 7th rounder, that's it for their whole draft ??

Calgary with only one pick in the top 87(#26 overall).

Carolina with 10 picks, including three 2nds and two 6ths.

Dallas with only 4 picks in the draft, one pick in the top 110, no 2nd or 3rd.

Detroit has 10 picks, three 2nds and two 5ths.

Florida with three 4ths, 9 picks total.

Los Angeles has 10 picks, two firsts two thirds and two 4ths.

Montreal has 10 picks. two 2nds and three 5ths.

Devils have 10 picks. Three 2nds, two 3rds.

Isles have no 3rd or 4th round pick.

Flyers have 10 picks. Two 3rds, 6ths, 7ths.

Pens only have 5 picks, one pick in top 144. No 2nd 3rd or 4th.

Sharks only have 5 picks, none in the frst two rounds, none in the top 90.

Blues have only 4 picks, no first, a late 2nd and 3rd, no fourth.

Vegas has three 3rd rounders and three 5ths.

Jets only have 3 picks. No 1st, 3rd, 6th or 7th.


Side 'note'
Would you trade 3rd rounder(#68) for two Chicago 4ths(#105 & 124)?
 
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GeorgeKaplan said:
Krebs’ WHL team seems to be trying to load up for next season, might be something to keep an eye on
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Kootenay is moving to Winnipeg next season...so makes sense that they are trying to load up. don't want to be awful in your first season there
 
Leetch3 said:
Kootenay is moving to Winnipeg next season...so makes sense that they are trying to load up. don't want to be awful in your first season there
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Definitely not the worst strategy, they traded for the rights of Wisconsin commit and one of the top 2020 guys in Dylan Holloway. I guess we’ll see if they can convince him to not go the college route
 
Bluenote13 said:
Random Bluenote's:


In regards to amount of picks, here's where most of the other teams stand one week away from the entry draft:


Columbus with only a 3rd and 7th rounder, that's it for their whole draft ??

Calgary with only one pick in the top 87(#26 overall).

Carolina with 10 picks, including three 2nds and two 6ths.

Dallas with only 4 picks in the draft, one pick in the top 110, no 2nd or 3rd.

Detroit has 10 picks, three 2nds and two 5ths.

Florida with three 4ths, 9 picks total.

Los Angeles has 10 picks, two firsts two thirds and two 4ths.

Montreal has 10 picks. two 2nds and three 5ths.

Devils have 10 picks. Three 2nds, two 3rds.

Isles have no 3rd or 4th round pick.

Flyers have 10 picks. Two 3rds, 6ths, 7ths.

Pens only have 5 picks, one pick in top 144. No 2nd 3rd or 4th.

Sharks only have 5 picks, none in the frst two rounds, none in the top 90.

Blues have only 4 picks, no first, a late 2nd and 3rd, no fourth.

Vegas has three 3rd rounders and three 5ths.

Jets only have 3 picks. No 1st, 3rd, 6th or 7th.


Side 'note'
Would you trade 3rd rounder(#68) for two Chicago 4ths(#105 & 124)?
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I suspect Columbus is going to trade the rights of a couple players for draft picks.

Calgary didn't have much of a draft last year either.

New Jersey has the most picks in the top 100--1, 34, 55, 61, 70, 80, 96.

Los Angeles has 6 in the top 100--5, 22, 33, 64, 87, 95.

Detroit also has 6 in the top 100--6, 35, 54, 60, 66, 97.

Rangers, Vegas, Ottawa and Carolina have 5 picks each in the top 100.

Right now San Jose is the last team scheduled to make a pick.

On the 68th for the two Chicago 4th rounders?--No I wouldn't. More interested in quality over quantity in this draft. I might do it for LA's 87 and 95 though--not as big a drop from the 68 to the 105.
 
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True Blue said:
The world is not quite that black and white. There is a difference between not wanting to bring someone back and looking at the situation and making a rational decision that the price is worth the ask. In this case, it would be to get to one of the other names that Gorton covets at the draft. If he does that, then he coldly did the calculus and decided that a move to get whomever was worth the risk and the price.

Again, you cannot have such a discussion when your viewpoint has blinders on. If you had told me that two years ago, before I chanted "Fire the GM", I would have asked you to describe the situation and the circumstances.

That is because your definition of a "great asset" seems to be limited to the assets that are skating on the big team. A "great asset" can also be great because it is used to derive another good or product from the market that in the future has a good chance of being called a "great asset". You take short term pain for long term pleasure.

I do not want to see Krieder traded. I think that as a top liner and a core member of the leadership group, he can be here on the other side of a rebuild. I also believe that Gorton would trade ANYONE if he thought that he could secure the type of deal that will set up this franchise to be excellent for years to come. And he would do so cold heartedly, without regards for what I want or what Kreider wants. And I also believe that Gorton is not going to simply give Kreider away and has a vision of how Plan A, Plan B, and Plan C would look like.
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You make a lot of rational points, but my point remains. If Kreider's career arc had come as almost everyone here assumed it would, Kreider would only have been available for far more than people are hoping for, now. To me, this is indisputable.
 
Guys I'd be hoping to see at 20 OA--Seider, Brink, York, Tomasino--at least one or two of these guys should be there and they'd be who I'd pick from--that is unless someone like Newhook really falls or we don't move up.
 
eco's bones said:
Guys I'd be hoping to see at 20 OA--Seider, Brink, York, Tomasino--at least one or two of these guys should be there and they'd be who I'd pick from--that is unless someone like Newhook really falls or we don't move up.
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My guy there is Tomasino right now. Have been really impressed by him.
 
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