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Edge said:
I think we've had two busts out of our last 10 first round picks.

Most observers would say that our work drafting and our developing from 2005-2012 was among the top 1/3 of the league.

I think as a board we tend to dwell on this busts and so there's a perception that there's more of them.
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Well, that, and the fact that we did it a) with our highest pick in 20 years, and b) in the best draft in the last 30.
 
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Edge said:
To me, I tend to go post-lockout.

When you start going back pre-lockout, and 15 years, you're talking a very different Rangers organization.

That's like approaching the 2003 draft, and going back to the Rangers drafting in the late 1980s. Very different game, very different organization.
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I agree... somewhat. Slats was still the top man both pre- and post-lockout.
 
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Inferno said:
Tkachuk is my guy man...I've been on his train for a while now...I think some loud ppl on this board have really torn him down. Kid is super talented and plays that hard go to the net game.

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It took me a while, but I’m with you. Tkachuk is my guy for sure, and I would gladly move up for him.

I’m gonna predict it’ll happen, actually. Tkachuk is there at 7 and we trade up to get him.
 
Brooklyn Rangers Fan said:
Well, that, and the fact that we did it a) with our highest pick in 20 years, and b) in the best draft in the last 30.
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I think it's more a product of the internet making a lot of things seeming more recent than they really are.

Nobody in 2003 was getting panic attacks over the 1988 debacle.

But with video, and message boards, and a platform for us to feed into each other's fears, 2003 seems like only a few years ago.

For the sake of context, whoever our next pick is in this draft was probably just learning to skate and two years away from kindergarten when Jessiman was selected.

Gordie Clark was with the Rangers 9 months (and the draft was still Maloney's chief responsibility).

The Rangers were still living the dream of making the playoffs with a veteran squad and the lockout was a year away.

Our current GM wasn't old enough to rent a car without paying through the nose.

Hey Ya! was one of the most popular songs on the radio.

The iPhone was still 4 years away from debuting.

The Concorde was still flying.

Some veteran posters on these boards were literally in elementary school.

I don't know how tomorrow will shake out. But I think we've got some mileage between under our belts since those days and the lockout.
 
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I think it's more likely zadina falls than tkachuk. Tkachuk is a unique player...I'm not sure zadina is.

That is to say...if you had the assets you can find a zadina...but if you had the assets could you find a tkachuk? Mean nasty big 60ish point players? There's not many to even find in the league.
 
Edge said:
I think it's more a product of the internet making a lot of things seeming more recent than they really are.

Nobody in 2003 was getting panic attacks over the 1988 debacle.

But with video, and message boards, and a platform for us to feed into each other's fears, 2003 seems like only a few years ago.

For the sake of context, whoever our next pick is in this draft was probably just learning to skate and two years away from kindergarten when Jessiman was selected.

Gordie Clark was with the Rangers 9 months (and the draft was still Maloney's chief responsibility).

The Rangers were still living the dream of making the playoffs with a veteran squad and the lockout was a year away.

Our current GM wasn't old enough to rent a car without paying through the nose.

Hey Ya! was one of the most popular songs on the radio.

The iPhone was still 4 years away from debuting.

The Concorde was still flying.

Some people on these boards were literally in elementary school.

I don't know how tomorrow will shake out. But I think we've got some mileage between under our belts since those days and the lockout.
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I cannot think of a more damaging move to this fanbase than the Jessiman pick. McIlrath was bad, but Jessiman was catastrophic.
 
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Edge said:
I think it's more a product of the internet making a lot of things seeming more recent than they really are.

Nobody in 2003 was getting panic attacks over the 1988 debacle.

But with video, and message boards, and a platform for us to feed into each other's fears, 2003 seems like only a few years ago.

For the sake of context, whoever our next pick is in this draft was probably just learning to skate and two years away from kindergarten when Jessiman was selected.

Gordie Clark was with the Rangers 9 months (and the draft was still Maloney's chief responsibility).

The Rangers were still living the dream of making the playoffs with a veteran squad and the lockout was a year away.

Our current GM wasn't old enough to rent a car without paying through the nose.

Hey Ya! was one of the most popular songs on the radio.

The iPhone was still 4 years away from debuting.

The Concorde was still flying.

Some veteran posters on these boards were literally in elementary school.

I don't know how tomorrow will shake out. But I think we've got some mileage between under our belts since those days and the lockout.
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Were you offering perspective... or trying to make me feel old? :)

Hey Ya! is still a damn good song, BTW.
 
My best thought:
  • We're staying at 9. If there, we'll grab Tkachuk, but I think he is gone. Hughes is our pick
  • Spooner and Names are traded on Day 2 of the draft.
  • Hayes is kept beyond the draft and 7/1. Traded after teams miss on Tavares and O'Reilly
  • We make all 3 of our picks.
 
mrjimmyg89 said:
My best thought:
  • We're staying at 9. If there, we'll grab Tkachuk, but I think he is gone. Hughes is our pick
  • Spooner and Names are traded on Day 2 of the draft.
  • Hayes is kept beyond the draft and 7/1. Traded after teams miss on Tavares and O'Reilly
  • We make all 3 of our picks.
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I don’t see Hughes being there. I don’t think he gets past Detroit.
 
Bozle said:
It took me a while, but I’m with you. Tkachuk is my guy for sure, and I would gladly move up for him.

I’m gonna predict it’ll happen, actually. Tkachuk is there at 7 and we trade up to get him.
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Do you think Vancouver passes on Tkachuk?
 
jas said:
Do you think Vancouver passes on Tkachuk?
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I mean, I get the “they regret passing on Matt, so they’ll definitely take Brady” angle that’s been tossed around, but Benning has said he wants a defenseman - and I believe he’s made it known he’d have interest in moving down.
 
jas said:
I cannot think of a more damaging move to this fanbase than the Jessiman pick. McIlrath was bad, but Jessiman was catastrophic.
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I think it was damaging to this board.

I don't know if it really carries over to other sectors of the fanbase though.

Jessiman was a disaster and I HATED the pick. But it's also 15 years ago.

We've had way more hits than misses since then, and our scouting department has been linked to liking very good prospects even when we couldn't get into position to trade for them.

At some point, we have to acknowledge that the 2005-2017 era of the Rangers was (at worst) pretty good to us.
 
jas said:
I don’t see Hughes being there. I don’t think he gets past Detroit.
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I think they nab one of the RHD that will be available at their pick. One of Dobson, Boquist, or Bouchard will be on the Wings.
 
Edge said:
I think it was damaging to this board.

I don't know if it really carries over to other sectors of the fanbase though.

Jessiman was a disaster and I HATED the pick. But it's also 15 years ago.

We've had way more hits than misses since then, and our scouting department has been linked to liking very good prospects even when we couldn't get into position to trade for them.

At some point, we have to acknowledge that the 2005-2017 era of the Rangers was (at worst) pretty good to us.
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Not sure how many years Maloney was there...but he was a disaster....ruined 2 franchises.
 
jas said:
Do you think Vancouver passes on Tkachuk?
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Depends on who is on their board.

If they have two guys ranked equally with Tkachuk (or ahead), and they know at least one of them will be there at 9, they could want the chance to pick up any extra pick.

For example let's say their list looks like mine, and they have Zadina third, Boqvist fourth and Hughes fifth. They also have Tkachuk 7th.

Pick 7 comes up and Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Dobson, Wahlstrom and Bouchard are off the board.

Vancouver likes Tkachuk, afterall they have him 7th. But they also know they are guaranteed to be able to get one of the players they have 3-5 on their list at the 9 spot. Including a defenseman. Why not trade the pick for an extra second? Maybe see if Chicago and the Rangers are nervous about losing out on the guy they really want. Both teams have some picks to work with. Maybe that's worth a second to them. Who knows, maybe a late first?

Not saying that's going to happen, but there's quite a bit of possibility there.
 
jas said:
I cannot think of a more damaging move to this fanbase than the Jessiman pick. McIlrath was bad, but Jessiman was catastrophic.
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Missing out on Roenick, Brindamour and Selanne because you gave up your first rounder for a coach that didn’t even last 2 years felt catastrophic too.
 
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