GDT: Draft Day Bonanza - All rumors/speculation/draft talk here ( Poll Added!)

[True Blue]

Okay, but, I’m going by by what I heard yesterday. Many observers that I heard have heard m going after 3.

I get it. Just stating my view. Zadina will make any team better.

I am not putting any faith into someone like him or Tkachuk falling to 9. Thinking Wahlstrom. But also think that Farabee is a possibility.

 

[brians1128]

Rangers trade up opportunity?

So much this

 

[Levitate]

Man the trade proposals are hilarious

 

[Ghost of jas]

Not that this is the be all end all or anything, but looking at the quotes from the Hockey Prospect Draft Guide, NHL scouts are unanimously "meh" on Veleno while they gush over Tkachuk.

So did everyone I listened to yesterday.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Probably takes 26 and 28 plus a 3rd to move up to 15 with a 4th coming back.

If it can get Kravtsov, Farabee, or even a sliding Boqvist I’d pull the trigger.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Probably takes 26 and 28 plus a 3rd to move up to 15 with a 4th coming back.

I know the draft pick value chart isn't perfect, but 26+28 is right in range, so yeah that's probably exactly right.

 

[Inferno]

I get it. Just stating my view. Zadina will make any team better.

I just wonder if tkachuk is the kinda guy who can impact a game if he's not scoring...and if zadina iss a guy who can't.

Then how much is their scoring difference gonna be?

If zadina is a 30 40 guy but tkachuk is a 20 40 guy...I'd take tkachuk and everything else he brings instead of those 10 goals

 

[Levitate]

Most likely:

Rangers end up not trading up
Take at least 1 guy in the first round that pisses everyone off here and leaves people saying "but this other guy was available!"
5 minutes later a few people will say "I actually really like this guy he's kind of under the radar but has a lot of potential"
15 minutes later people will be saying "so and so is probably the next Chytil!"

At the end of the day people will be mad that Gorton didn't magically pull off a bunch of trades to get 3 draft picks in the top 15 of the draft and draft all the names that they wanted

 

[NYR Viper]

Zadina from what I understand is the type of player who is good both offensively and defensively. I have seen Hossa's name thrown out as the style he plays for Zadina. In saying that, I'd have Zadina over Tkachuk if both were avaialble at 7 and the Rangers traded up. Not to the point that I'd be pissed if they took Tkachuk but my list would be:
Zadina
Tkachuk
Wahlstrom

Mainly because I don't see many pundits or people calling Wahlstrom the type of player who effects the game if he isn't scoring.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I just wonder if tkachuk is the kinda guy who can impact a game if he's not scoring...and if zadina iss a guy who can't.

Then how much is their scoring difference gonna be?

If zadina is a 30 40 guy but tkachuk is a 20 40 guy...I'd take tkachuk and everything else he brings instead of those 10 goals

This is also pretty ignorant of the type of player Zadina is too. I like Tkachuk, but Zadina is an entire notch above him as a prospect

 

[NYR Viper]

This is also pretty ignorant of the type of player Zadina is too. I like Tkachuk, but Zadina is an entire notch above him as a prospect

Are there 100 notches or 10 in total? So 10% above, or 1%?

 

[NYR Viper]

 

[EdJovanovski]

I’m so excited this is like Christmas morning!!!

 

[JimmyG89]

I know the draft pick value chart isn't perfect, but 26+28 is right in range, so yeah that's probably exactly right.

Pick 15 for 26 and 45. Value is roughly the same. I'd be down for it.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

How kind of the Flames to make one of their worst defenseman available

That said I’m sure Chiarelli is crapping himself right now and gonna throw Puljujarvi to Calgary for him

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Rangers trade up opportunity?

I'd rather try to work something out with Dallas - much better chance that one of Farabee/Kravtsov/Bokk is available at 13.

 

[NYR Viper]

How kind of the Flames to make one of their worst defenseman available

That said I’m sure Chiarelli is crapping himself right now and gonna throw Puljujarvi to Calgary for him

So, theoretically, assuming Hamonic doesn't have as much value as Hamilton due to his down year, would anyone trade Hayes for Hamonic + Fox and then deal Hamonic to EDM for their 10th?

 

[DanielBrassard]

f*** no, unless Edmonton would be willing to flip the 10th for him.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Are there 100 notches or 10 in total? So 10% above, or 1%?

You alluded to some of the stuff in your other post, but there’s been this weird aura around Zadina lately. He’s easily the most skilled forward in this draft besides Svechnikov from a complete game perspective. He’s a dynamic goal scorer with speed and amazing hands that also has strong impacts in the defensive zone.

He doesn’t have the physical element that Tkachuk has, and I’d argue that Brady is a better playmaker and passer. I don’t have a specific scale to grade these guys on to answer your question, but I’ve consistently had Zadina at 3 and Brady in the 5-7 range when I’ve ranked these guys. I lean more heavily towards the goal-scoring upside of Zadina.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Pick 15 for 26 and 45. Value is roughly the same. I'd be down for it.

We don't have 45. Just 39 and 48 which probably wouldn't be enough.

 

[Levitate]

Friedman just said the Flames may be dangling Fox

That said I'm not really sure why

 

[FIRE DRURY]

I’m so excited this is like Christmas morning!!!

Hopefully we don’t draft the next pickle-loving bozo, eh...?

 

[NYR Viper]

You alluded to some of the stuff in your other post, but there’s been this weird aura around Zadina lately. He’s easily the most skilled forward in this draft besides Svechnikov from a complete game perspective. He’s a dynamic goal scorer with speed and amazing hands that also has strong impacts in the defensive zone.

He doesn’t have the physical element that Tkachuk has, and I’d argue that Brady is a better playmaker and passer. I don’t have a specific scale to grade these guys on to answer your question, but I’ve consistently had Zadina at 3 and Brady in the 5-7 range when I’ve ranked these guys. I lean more heavily towards the goal-scoring upside of Zadina.

That's totally fair, I was mainly being facetious

I wouldn't be upset with either of them though

 

[JimmyG89]

We don't have 45. Just 39 and 48 which probably wouldn't be enough.

I thought the NJD pick was 45. 48 is just as close in value. Maybe throw in their 6th at that point.

 

[Thirty One]

"As reported here long ago" = Suck it, Carp.