Speculation: Draft and UDFA Thread 2018-19: Part IX (No Kakko/Hughes Talk)

[Joey Bones]

So confirmed NYR interviewees are Ryan Johnson and Jack Hughes!!

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Speaking of going back, here were my top 10 players for the 2019 class back in June of 2018!!

Way too early top 10 incoming!!!!

1. Jack Hughes
2. Kaapo Kakko
3. Bowen Byram
4. Alex Turcotte
5. Alex Newhook
6. Vasily Podkolzin
7. Kirby Dach
8. Dylan Cozens
9. Raphael Lavoie
10. Anttoni Honka

HM: Cole Caufield, Peyton Krebs, Alex Vlasic, Matvei Guskov, Victor Soderstrom, Artemi Knyazev, Henri Nikkanen, Mikko Kokkonen, Maxim Cajkovic

Top goalies, IMO, are Spencer Knight and Dustin Wolf.

I think I got a good majority of it right!! That top 4 looks to be spot on from today's consensus. Newhook and Podkolzin will most likely go in the teens same with Lavoie. Dach and Cozens can go anywhere in that top 5-10. Honka might go in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. Some of the honorable mentions will go in the 1st round, too!!

Any thoughts?

Pretty good if you ask me. And to be honest I completely forgot Honka was in this draft class, I guess that goes to show the year he’s had

 

[Joey Bones]

Pretty good if you ask me. And to be honest I completely forgot Honka was in this draft class, I guess that goes to show the year he’s had

He got bounced around a lot. Started the year off well then digressed. With that said, he definitely didn't have a bad year. Just an underwhelming one....

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

He got bounced around a lot. Started the year off well then digressed. With that said, he definitely didn't have a bad year. Just an underwhelming one....

Honestly seems like a real Rangers-esque 3rd/4th round pick

 

[Lion Hound]

Speaking of going back, here were my top 10 players for the 2019 class back in June of 2018!!

Way too early top 10 incoming!!!!

1. Jack Hughes
2. Kaapo Kakko
3. Bowen Byram
4. Alex Turcotte
5. Alex Newhook
6. Vasily Podkolzin
7. Kirby Dach
8. Dylan Cozens
9. Raphael Lavoie
10. Anttoni Honka

HM: Cole Caufield, Peyton Krebs, Alex Vlasic, Matvei Guskov, Victor Soderstrom, Artemi Knyazev, Henri Nikkanen, Mikko Kokkonen, Maxim Cajkovic

Top goalies, IMO, are Spencer Knight and Dustin Wolf.

I think I got a good majority of it right!! That top 4 looks to be spot on from today's consensus. Newhook and Podkolzin will most likely go in the teens same with Lavoie. Dach and Cozens can go anywhere in that top 5-10. Honka might go in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. Some of the honorable mentions will go in the 1st round, too!!

Any thoughts?

Bravo!!!

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

No, you didn't

prove it

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

prove it

The only picks that make sense are Kakko and Johnson

 

[DutchShamrock]

He let out a fart that he thought would be silent, but it wasn't.

Interviewing as a team with Wahlstrom while in tuxedos kind of backfired.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Or, Lazy + Party Animal. The jury is still out.

He wants to down a whole keg of beer but settles for a 40.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

The only picks that make sense are Kakko and Johnson

That is just your opinion, no proof.

 

[UnSandvich]

That is just your opinion, no proof.

Of course that's just his opinion, draft hasn't happened yet. You can't logically ask him to prove something that hasn't happened. But I'm inclined to agree with him

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

He let out a fart that he thought would be silent, but it wasn't.

I think the only fart there was in Clark's head wasting away a high draft pick. Should have taken Akil Thomas

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Of course that's just his opinion, draft hasn't happened yet. You can't logically ask him to prove something that hasn't happened. But I'm inclined to agree with him

OK and why would 7 of my 9 picks not make sense?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

OK and why would 7 of my 9 picks not make sense?

You literally said you did better than Gordie Clark as if that’s fact hahahaha

 

[Irishguy42]

#GordieClarkIsActuallyBetterAtDraftingThanYouThink

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

#GordieClarkIsActuallyBetterAtDraftingThanYouThink

Stepan, Kreider, Miller, Skjei, Fast, Shestyorkin, Buchnevich, Duclair, Nieves were all good picks considering where they were selected and the career they've carved out for themselves so far.

But everyone always complains about the 1(!) pick we messed up in the first round. The one in 2010. Imagine picking Karl Alzner 4th overall, or Sasha Pokulok 14th. "But the Capitals are better than us at drafting". Or how about wasting two top-10 picks on Slater Koekkoek and Brett Connolly. Every team makes mistakes, but the Rangers "can't draft" LOL

 

[Mac n Gs]

Stepan, Kreider, Miller, Skjei, Fast, Shestyorkin, Buchnevich, Duclair, Nieves were all good picks considering where they were selected and the career they've carved out for themselves so far.

But everyone always complains about the 1(!) pick we messed up in the first round. The one in 2010. Imagine picking Karl Alzner 4th overall, or Sasha Pokulok 14th. "But the Capitals are better than us at drafting". Or how about wasting two top-10 picks on Slater Koekkoek and Brett Connolly. Every team makes mistakes, but the Rangers "can't draft" LOL

Just stop answering the troll (Irish included )

 

[offdacrossbar]

there is an argument that can be made that our ability to draft high end players has been lacking. regardless of draft position, there is talent through out an entire draft.

we've done a pretty good job in the 2-4 rounds and some real gems later.

but our recent history hasn't been stellar with our top picks. our first round has been noticeably lacking.

imo.

this coming from someone who thinks gordie clark's retirement is long overdue.

 

[Leetch3]

there is an argument that can be made that our ability to draft high end players has been lacking. regardless of draft position, there is talent through out an entire draft.

we've done a pretty good job in the 2-4 rounds and some real gems later.

but our recent history hasn't been stellar with our top picks. our first round has been noticeably lacking.

imo.

this coming from someone who thinks gordie clark's retirement is long overdue.

not disagreeing with your overall point but I don't think its fair to say regardless of draft position. we've done fairly well with the picks we had but when you don't pick in the 1st or 2nd round its tough. yeah there are really good players taken in the later rounds but those are the exceptions and more luck than smart drafting. if teams knew those guys would be good they would be picked in the 1st or 2nd round

 

[duhmetreE]

This is Gorton's team now. Stop bringing up Sather.

 

[RangerBoy]

C Alex Turcotte

He’s a high-end skater and thinker. A lower-body injury limited him to 37 games with the U18 U.S. National Team Development Program (where he was teammates with Hughes) but Turcotte had 62 points in that span. He finds teammates in tight spaces, and has the soft hands to score around the net. He has great explosiveness and a quick release. He’s committed to Wisconsin next year, but he could take a similar path as Dylan Larkin and spend one season playing collegiately, then make the jump to NHL.

C Trevor Zegras

He’s a mobile two-way forward with a top-notch creative streak and the ability to finish. (He had 26 goals and 61 assists in 60 games for the NTDP U18.) He makes plays most players don’t even think of, and has the wiliness to elude defenders one-on-one. He’s not a great skater and his defense needs improvement, but he counters what he lacks in these areas with his high hockey IQ.

Either one of these players would be a great fit in the Rangers rebuild. If the Rangers had the opportunity to land either player in a deal for Zibanejad, they should do it.

The Rangers supposedly would like to acquire another top pick in this draft. That’s what Brooks has reported. It won’t be easy. Instead of trying to gather up enough assets to move up, just trade Zibanejad. The Rangers won’t be a better team next season but they will be a better team down the road which is what the Rangers building up for with their moves. It probably won’t be enough to get Turcotte.

Zibanejad has the most trade value on the Rangers.

 

[Edge]

@Lays

Went back in the log and the ones that were confirmed were indeed Wilde, Gross, Addison and a long conversation with Kravtsov. Heavily rumored, but no official confirmation, about the Rangers interviewing Boqvist, as well!!

I'll tell ya, going back into the old thread really was interesting. So many posters didn't like Quinn Hughes and wanted Joel Farabee badly!!

Was and still am a big fan of Farabee.

Not a fan of him being with Flyers.

 

[Ola]

Just stop answering the troll (Irish included )

This. Can’t we lobby to be allowed to have like 150 stickied threads? One for McIlrath, one for Jessiman, one for our drafting ability and so forth.

I think the number of people on planet Earth that is interested to — year in and year out — read about how someone was high on Tarasenko and would have loved to see us draft him over McIlrath actually is pretty small.

Or it would maybe be more fun if we had a total waste bin thread for all these topics combined. That all posts including the words Jessiman, Fowler, Tarasenko, McIlrath, Glass and so forth must go in.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Either one of these players would be a great fit in the Rangers rebuild. If the Rangers had the opportunity to land either player in a deal for Zibanejad, they should do it.

The Rangers supposedly would like to acquire another top pick in this draft. That’s what Brooks has reported. It won’t be easy. Instead of trying to gather up enough assets to move up, just trade Zibanejad. The Rangers won’t be a better team next season but they will be a better team down the road which is what the Rangers building up for with their moves. It probably won’t be enough to get Turcotte.

Zibanejad has the most trade value on the Rangers.

Trevor Zegras, a 2 way forward who needs to work on his defense.....

No to trading Zibanejad. Kreider+? Sure.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I think the only fart there was in Clark's head wasting away a high draft pick. Should have taken Akil Thomas

Ill never understand that Lindbom pick at 39. That draft would have been an absolute homer if they selected a kid like Thomas or Wilde or could've used that pick to trade up or down.