Salary Cap: Dr Dubas Cap Thread: He wants the Nurse

[Jag68Sid87]

Rakell is actually a better player in his 30s than empty-calorie Rust…but shhhh, don’t tell Yohe that…I’d honestly rather trade Rust, esp if GMs are stupid and value him more lol

I am fairly confident that Rust's perceived value around the league is higher than Rakell's. Maybe even MUCH higher.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

He should be thankful... it gives him the added value of "positional flexibility."

Which will still likely only get us a 2nd and maybe a prospect but who knows. Depends on how desperate teams get when they circle back for "pretty f***ing good player" Rickard Rakell after all the real targets are off the board.

Wouldn't even be worth it at that point.

Teams are giving up a lot more for far lesser players. Raks is a good bet to maintain his current level for the next 2 years.

 

[Koivunsons]

I feel like Helle makes Carolina very good lol

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Wouldn't even be worth it at that point.

Teams are giving up a lot more for far lesser players. Raks is a good bet to maintain his current level for the next 2 years.

Why will you guys NOT cop to the fact that these supposedly "lesser players" are in their 20s?

That's a huge deal.

 

[tom_servo]

Some speculation that the Washington moves may have them looking to dump Lapierre. Would likely be cheap center and may fit the young reclamation project target. Not sure how interested I'd be but it's another name to think about?

Credit to you. I had this post fresh in mind when the trade came through.

Maybe Kyle did as well.

 

[K Fleur]

I feel like Helle makes Carolina very good lol

They just won the cup 2 weeks ago. They are already are very good lol.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

They just won the cup 2 weeks ago. They are already are very good lol.

Yeah like... maybe it will make them very good but I dunno... what they were doing seemed to be working and any money thrown at something that wasn't a problem to begin with seems odd.

I get that they want positional stability... I guess? But like... why? It's goaltending. Put a f***in' old tractor tire in there if you can get away with it.

 

[Turin]

Carolina may not lose more than 10 games if they get Hellebuyck. Relying on somebody like Bussi is how you stagnate after winning.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Yeah like... maybe it will make them very good but I dunno... what they were doing seemed to be working and any money thrown at something that wasn't a problem to begin with seems odd.

I get that they want positional stability... I guess? But like... why? It's goaltending. Put a f***in' old tractor tire in there if you can get away with it.

That is why I call bullshit. Carolina's identity is what you just described.

 

[Empoleon8771]

 

[Ivan Friggin Drago]

 

[eXile3]

“a distinct possibility worth watching”. That’s some good journalism.

 

[DessertPenguin]

Let me flip it around for you: Your team just won the cup with incredible depth adhering strictly to a team first system that star players don't like and struggle to play. Your startng goaltender is 36, and a UFA. How would you improve the team if not through getting a stud goalie? If you aren't getting better, you're getting worse.

I'm not saying this can't work out for Carolina with Hellebuyck winning a SC there as the starting goalie. Just that it is a very different strategy than they have followed. I am guessing Tulsky views 90+% of goalies are interchangeable and Hellebuyck as one of the few positive difference making goalies.

 

[Empoleon8771]

@Dipsy Doodle this is why you're better off trading for Nurse than trying to sign Kulak in UFA. Kulak is getting a 6 year, $4.5 million AAV deal to stay in Colorado. The UFA market is completely cracked.

 

[eXile3]

@Dipsy Doodle this is why you're better off trading for Nurse than trying to sign Kulak in UFA. Kulak is getting a 6 year, $4.5 million AAV deal to stay in Colorado. The UFA market is completely cracked.

32 year old Kulak gets a 6 year deal.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Cowan to Anaheim for one of their guys would make some sense, if Anaheim is looking for forward.

There's some interesting UFAs that I think could help them - Kulak, Soucy, Jensen, hell even Shea. My gut said they are gonna go for Klingberg and TDA and then wonder why their defense stinks.

What about Cowen to Ottawa for Spence? Maybe toss in one of those #3/#4 guys from TOR, and a depth forward FROM OTT to balance it out.

 

[plaidchuck]

So I guess they just watched Helle's olympic games and not his playoff nhl games? I know it's almost the Fourth but put down the freedom fairy dust ya'll

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I said it in secret chat, but I have no idea what to expect for any new contract at this point. Maybe next summer I'll have a better guess at this stuff.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Secretly would have loved to see Nuke here. Ya I know he has some warts blah blah blah.

Jagr once said he was the best player I the NHL at one time.

When the guy is on he is really good, unfortunately he ran into some issues but a guy like that I am fine rolling the dice.

I don't know if our room would get/keep Nuke on track, or if Nuke would poison the room with some of the young guys.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Others have thrown out this idea before, but I wouldn't be that surprised to see Dubas throw out a fairly big UFA deal to Marchment on July 1st.

I'll take high salary shorter term

 

[TojoP]

Lot's of shoes left to drop in the next 30 hours.

• Requested Trades: Larkin, Nurse
• Pending RFAs: Robertson, Mintyukov, Zellweger
• Rumored guys like McTavish, EP40, Knies, Thomas, Trockek, Nikishin, Zary, Tippett, Reilly
• Does OTT do more to replace Tkachuk? GM sure seemed like he wanted to pump the whole trade return directly into the lineup.
• Buffalo made out well on the Byram trade, but between Byram and Tuch they're a weaker team now than when the season ended. Do they weaponize that 4OA to get back to or above where they were?
• Florida, Carolina and others need goaltending. Bob, Hellebuyck?
• SJS needs RHS defensemen. #2 seems too high, #9 too low for the sweetspot on those guys.
• Lots of "contenders" still quiet: EDM, MIN, MTL, VGK

Wanted to touch on a couple of these.

Min and Vegas are likely holding back for Larkin.

Montreal is an interesting possibility as they don't have any heat yet to make a move.

#9 almost asuredly can get Rudolph, maybe Verhoeff, so it's a good spot to get a RHD.

Buffalo really needs a move. I know I heard Trochek, but if I were them I'd want younger to match their core.

Ottawa and Pittsburgh feel like such an obvious match.

But Robertson is still the big fish after Tkchuck. It's almost crazy so many assets moved before he got traded. Wonder if Dallas overplayed this.

 

[Koivunsons]

They just won the cup 2 weeks ago. They are already are very good lol.

it makes sense for Carolina to outbid for Helle to avoid Florida who will likely be their main competition next year in the East. Especially with a frivolous asset like Nikishin.

 

[K Fleur]

@Dipsy Doodle this is why you're better off trading for Nurse than trying to sign Kulak in UFA. Kulak is getting a 6 year, $4.5 million AAV deal to stay in Colorado. The UFA market is completely cracked.

Yo I think we’re better off doing neither.

 

[Koivunsons]

Wanted to touch on a couple of these.

Min and Vegas are likely holding back for Larkin.

Montreal is an interesting possibility as they don't have any heat yet to make a move.

#9 almost asuredly can get Rudolph, maybe Verhoeff, so it's a good spot to get a RHD.

Buffalo really needs a move. I know I heard Trochek, but if I were them I'd want younger to match their core.

Ottawa and Pittsburgh feel like such an obvious match.

But Robertson is still the big fish after Tkchuck. It's almost crazy so many assets moved before he got traded. Wonder if Dallas overplayed this.

Stenberg and Verhoeff to San Jose is great f***ing work by Grier. Wish Dubas had some balls like him.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Adam Fox to Anaheim would be something.