Confirmed with Link: Douglas Murray Traded To Pitt for 2013 2nd round and 2014 2nd/3rd conditional pick

[Tkachuk4MVP]

Traded for "on the ice play" reasons. (Not cap, unwillingness to re-sign with team, etc.)



I still call the Korolyuk trade one. Essentially cap hit (on the Sharks) for a 1st round pick.

And the Ehrhoff one.

 

[hockeyball]

Which trade has SJ made that isn't a hockey trade?

Well, let's be a little more specific. If you mean which trade did not involve hockey for the Sharks, that would be when we traded for Nic Wallin. There was no hockey to be had there.

 

[Coily]

Well, let's be a little more specific. If you mean which trade did not involve hockey for the Sharks, that would be when we traded for Nic Wallin. There was no hockey to be had there.

Hamburgers was totally a PR stunt for a local InNOut.

 

[do0glas]

why trade burish? you are only really freeing up 800-900 k in Cap, and losing someone who is actually really good on the PK. Ive seen him block more shots than anyone besides murray I think.

which line gomez is on is the one that leaks goals imo.

we dont really have a 4th line center in the pipes to fill in, but i guess we could roll with.

galiardi-desi-sheppard..

 

[LadyStanley]

jasondemers5 4:38pm via Twitter for Android Heading to the game minus the big Crankshaft a great friend and teammate..Pittsburgh fans are in for a treat #reversehitsfordays

PollakOnSharks 4:38pm via Web Asked #SJSharks McLellan if Murray trade might mean Burns would be moving back to defense sooner. "Not tonight," was the two-word answer.


Bakes_Jamie13 4:40pm via Twitter for iPhone
Bus just pulled into arena. Murray always last player off. Trades are Always weird. Good luck Crankshaft.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Rangers fans are my least favorite of all. Excluding Rangershark, of course.

Me too. Leafs, Hawks, Ducks, Kings (post Cup win) are my least favorites in terms of fan base, along with Rangers.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Seems like Rangers and TO fans are the most hostile, always have problems in those threads.

Toronto, they just have so many fans you lose the few good ones in the shuffle. Rangers fans are almost universally a humongous pain to deal with. Can't stand the vast majority of Habs fans either. Always bragging about Timmens or the Rivet deal. Pretty much every other fanbase has some redeeming people.

 

[jwhitesj]

Bums me out a bit, big fan of Murray. That being said, we got a steal for him so i'm not too sad about it.

I feel the same way, I wonder how grumpy cat feels.

 

[bluefunnel]

Sad to see him go. I don't mind Pittsburgh so much so I hope everything works out for him over there.

Pretty good return though, and nice to see the condition is an "either/or" than a "whether or not".

 

[Evincar]

Craig Button say the Pens are the clear winner in this trade. He said that Murray knows how to play against the other team's best players and compared this deal to the one in 1991 in which the Pens got Ulf Samuelsson.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

why trade burish? you are only really freeing up 800-900 k in Cap, and losing someone who is actually really good on the PK. Ive seen him block more shots than anyone besides murray I think.

which line gomez is on is the one that leaks goals imo.

we dont really have a 4th line center in the pipes to fill in, but i guess we could roll with.

galiardi-desi-sheppard..

Handzus blocks shots too. Want to keep him around? I don't see a trade happening with Burish because who would want him at that salary for 4th line work? The PK will be fine with or without him. If they find someone to take him for anything, they ought to do it. Same applies to Gomez and Handzus.

 

[Negatively Positive]

Craig Button say the Pens are the clear winner in this trade. He said that Murray knows how to play against the other team's best players and compared this deal to the one in 1991 in which the Pens got Ulf Samuelsson.

This just confirms East coast bias. These analysts just don't watch WC games especially ones on the West coast. Just spouting off things that were true years ago.

 

[WTFetus]

I woke up and I saw: "Confirmed with Link: Doug" and thought DW was canned. No one calls him Doug Murray.

This just confirms East coast bias. These analysts just don't watch WC games especially ones on the West coast. Just spouting off things that were true years ago.

Craig Button is an idiot.

 

[Coily]

Craig Button say the Pens are the clear winner in this trade. He said that Murray knows how to play against the other team's best players and compared this deal to the one in 1991 in which the Pens got Ulf Samuelsson.

He may know how to play against them.. But he fails to do so.

 

[Evincar]

This just confirms East coast bias. These analysts just don't watch WC games especially ones on the West coast. Just spouting off things that were true years ago.

Its just plain stupidity/laziness. Do they not look at stat sheets anymore? If you want to say that Murray and Morrow are good additions to the Pens fine. But dont say that there is a clear winner when both Murray and Morrow are like 34 and are UFAs after the season. The media thinks Murray and Morrow are the same players they were 3 or 4 years ago.

Its not like the Sharks traded Boyle for two 2nd round picks.

 

[do0glas]

Handzus blocks shots too. Want to keep him around? I don't see a trade happening with Burish because who would want him at that salary for 4th line work? The PK will be fine with or without him. If they find someone to take him for anything, they ought to do it. Same applies to Gomez and Handzus.

well gomez is at 700k, which is fine-especially considering that he is the points leader among the bottom six. I would definitely keep him around. but as a winger.

RE: Burish- Yes he is overpaid, he also has stone hands, but where does the re-allocation of funds go? that 800k could maybe get an ELC for someone I guess. With murray off the books, there is quite a bit of capspace atm. more than enough for a 3rd line UFA acquisition, if we go that route.

I dont know...im not arguing to keep him really...just doesnt do anything other than set a bad organizational tone. because he is far from a detriment in 4th line minutes, and having 4th liners who can PK is always nice, especially if he takes over handguns shifts and really gives the top guys a break.

 

[magic school bus]

Reverse hits for days

 

[Linkster]

http://chirb.it/DO0Kew

Don't think this was posted anywhere but its basically Dan Rusanowsky talking about the trade and Doug Wilson talking about why he made the trade and all. Glad to hear he doesn't plan on giving up any of our early picks to try and make a big push for the playoffs but also said this trade doesn't mean that they're going to be big sellers and rebuild he says they want to "refresh". At 6:58 he pretty much calls out Clowe without mentioning his name saying that he's not playing his best. Gotta think he plans on trading Clowe and as much as I like him I hope he does.[...]

So funny listening to DW on media conference speakerphone, sounded like he was behind bulletproof glass at a Kwik-E-Mart. Dan was recapping questions from other media members, and I noticed these 2 gems:

Dan: "With San Jose going 1-3 on this road trip, does Doug Wilson speak to the team?"

DW: "Uh, no. To me, actions speak louder than words..."

[...]

Dan: "What about acquiring an older player to provide more offense that the Sharks are looking for?"

DW: "I don't see that happening... thinking we're gonna give up a good young prospect or one of my good young players or a high pick to just bring in a guy on a rental basis is very doubtful."

Thank. Gawd.

It doesn't 100% rule out some crazy Boyle/Gaborik or Boyle/Iginla deal, but when DW says "refresh" the roster I'm happy to hear there's an age floor.

 

[justinboo*]

man sharks are a lot less intimidating without murray back there..

 

[Pinkfloyd]

well gomez is at 700k, which is fine-especially considering that he is the points leader among the bottom six. I would definitely keep him around. but as a winger.

RE: Burish- Yes he is overpaid, he also has stone hands, but where does the re-allocation of funds go? that 800k could maybe get an ELC for someone I guess. With murray off the books, there is quite a bit of capspace atm. more than enough for a 3rd line UFA acquisition, if we go that route.

I dont know...im not arguing to keep him really...just doesnt do anything other than set a bad organizational tone. because he is far from a detriment in 4th line minutes, and having 4th liners who can PK is always nice, especially if he takes over handguns shifts and really gives the top guys a break.

Gomez is not a guy I'd want to keep on the third line long term. He's too casual with the puck to be a reliable setup guy. I could live with it if he had more of a penchant to shoot the puck but he's pass-first and we have too much of that right now.

I don't think they need to reallocate it. They have Galiardi, Desjardins, Sheppard, and Wingels to fill out a healthy chunk of the bottom two lines. If they want to get veterans to fill out the rest, that's fine but giving anybody that is a 3rd or 4th line player a long term deal is pointless. If Burish was on a two year deal like Handzus was, I'd be okay with it. I'd hate the overpayement but the term needs to be short because these depth positions are the places that get turned over frequently and it's because those players live and die on the system and it is tweaked from year to year.

 

[wraith985]

I suddenly love the idea of east coast bias. Let's see if we can use it to trade Handzus by pointing to his performance against the Sharks a few years back (assuming he'll waive).

 

[Negatively Positive]

Even though DW has put the onus on the players to play better, I expect the Sharks to continue sucking because this trade proves sucking gets you traded from a non-contender to a contender.

 

[lsx]

Rangers fans told me Boyle is old and cant skate anymore. Clearly they know something we don't.

Boyle for a conditional 7th.

 

[WantonAbandon]

When was the last time you watched a Hawks game? Keith and Seabrook are struggling mightily, they aren't even playing shutdown minutes. Leddy can't play defense. Their best defenseman is Johnny Oduya. Hjalmarsson is Vlasic-lite. They succeed because they have a system that maximizes defense while simultaneously not suppressing offense.

You're way off base with almost everything you're saying.

The Hawks are top of the conference because they have a mobile blue line that pushes the play. In recent years they put considerable effort in revamping their blueline and it worked big time.

 

[WantonAbandon]

The conclusion is actually that they need to rework the system to give them better options. In what world is it good to have everyone be around the puck as you're moving it up the ice?

No they need better options