GDT: #12 | Bruins vs Flyers | Saturday, November 2, 2024 | 1:00 PM | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

bobbythebrain

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Torts rant about bringing back respectability and meaning to the otg....what's their attendance lately?

I'm guessin less fans watch more than ever right now...Michkov or not
 
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deadhead

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Funny, when criticize the FO, it's always about the players, when criticizing Torts, it's always about the coach.

Boston played hard, and they're a big team (biggest in the NHL along with TB), where you see it is around their net, no play goes uncontested, and they contest everything in the D-zone. It's not like they're executing all these fancy plays, the Boston offense is chuck it in, beat people up in the corners then throw it out to the point and go to the net. Pastrnak and a bunch of muggers.

Flyers got overwhelmed the 1st period, then played even the rest of the game but no puck luck.

Kolosov was OK in relief, though the 1st goal was him being a little out of control sliding over and the second goal was both Couts late to the man and letting the puck slip between his arm and body.

Flyers are pressing, too many blind passes, too many guys trying to skate through 3 defenders. Flyers look like a lot of guys who don't have PO experience and aren't used to the tight windows and physical play, a 1/2 second slow in their decision making, forcing cross ice passes.

Andrae has potential, he made some nice plays on offense but struggled getting the puck out of the D-zone at times.

I thought Drysdale looked much better, really balanced on his skates, can move backward and laterally and was using that skill to buy space so he couldn't be checked off the puck and to buy time to survey the ice. Think they're teaching him that, he's too small to win battles, has to use speed and agility to create space.

Cates really doesn't belong on a checking line, his strength is puck possession, especially in crowds, but he's not fast enough to dump and chase.

Brink played well again except for one boneheaded pass in his D-zone that was almost a goal. He's playing at both ends of the ice and not afraid to mix it up, he lacks size but like TK can leverage and win puck battles.

Couts is basically playing like a PF, spending a lot of time in front of the net.

Frost is snakebit, but it's also obvious that he struggles to push a top line. While Tippett and TK struggled with him, they were the best line last year and worth keeping together. They need a Frost line to at least be decent.

Part of the problem is lack of talent, part of the problem is inexperience.
The chances are there, but they're just not able to finish plays, flubbing shots, mishandling pucks, the game just seems a little fast for them right now.
 

bennysflyers16

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Imagine Andrae being the one you point out as struggles to move the puck out of the zone, Jesus Christ.

Out best exits this afternoon we’re all by him.
 
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Funny, when criticize the FO, it's always about the players, when criticizing Torts, it's always about the coach.

Boston played hard, and they're a big team (biggest in the NHL along with TB), where you see it is around their net, no play goes uncontested, and they contest everything in the D-zone. It's not like they're executing all these fancy plays, the Boston offense is chuck it in, beat people up in the corners then throw it out to the point and go to the net. Pastrnak and a bunch of muggers.

Flyers got overwhelmed the 1st period, then played even the rest of the game but no puck luck.

Kolosov was OK in relief, though the 1st goal was him being a little out of control sliding over and the second goal was both Couts late to the man and letting the puck slip between his arm and body.

Flyers are pressing, too many blind passes, too many guys trying to skate through 3 defenders. Flyers look like a lot of guys who don't have PO experience and aren't used to the tight windows and physical play, a 1/2 second slow in their decision making, forcing cross ice passes.

Andrae has potential, he made some nice plays on offense but struggled getting the puck out of the D-zone at times.

I thought Drysdale looked much better, really balanced on his skates, can move backward and laterally and was using that skill to buy space so he couldn't be checked off the puck and to buy time to survey the ice. Think they're teaching him that, he's too small to win battles, has to use speed and agility to create space.

Cates really doesn't belong on a checking line, his strength is puck possession, especially in crowds, but he's not fast enough to dump and chase.

Brink played well again except for one boneheaded pass in his D-zone that was almost a goal. He's playing at both ends of the ice and not afraid to mix it up, he lacks size but like TK can leverage and win puck battles.

Couts is basically playing like a PF, spending a lot of time in front of the net.

Frost is snakebit, but it's also obvious that he struggles to push a top line. While Tippett and TK struggled with him, they were the best line last year and worth keeping together. They need a Frost line to at least be decent.

Part of the problem is lack of talent, part of the problem is inexperience.
The chances are there, but they're just not able to finish plays, flubbing shots, mishandling pucks, the game just seems a little fast for them right now.
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deadhead

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Imagine Andrae being the one you point out as struggles to move the puck out of the zone, Jesus Christ.

Out best exits this afternoon we’re all by him.
So were a number of unforced turnovers.

Actually, I think the best exits were from Drysdale, who wasn't the turnover machine he usually is, almost like Shaw told him to take a breath, don't be afraid to skate with the puck, and look where you're passing the puck.

They're both inexperienced, and have to be careful with a team like Boston b/c they can be knocked off the puck if they hold it too long.
 

blackjackmulligan

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Funny, when criticize the FO, it's always about the players, when criticizing Torts, it's always about the coach.

Boston played hard, and they're a big team (biggest in the NHL along with TB), where you see it is around their net, no play goes uncontested, and they contest everything in the D-zone. It's not like they're executing all these fancy plays, the Boston offense is chuck it in, beat people up in the corners then throw it out to the point and go to the net. Pastrnak and a bunch of muggers.

Flyers got overwhelmed the 1st period, then played even the rest of the game but no puck luck.

Kolosov was OK in relief, though the 1st goal was him being a little out of control sliding over and the second goal was both Couts late to the man and letting the puck slip between his arm and body.

Flyers are pressing, too many blind passes, too many guys trying to skate through 3 defenders. Flyers look like a lot of guys who don't have PO experience and aren't used to the tight windows and physical play, a 1/2 second slow in their decision making, forcing cross ice passes.

Andrae has potential, he made some nice plays on offense but struggled getting the puck out of the D-zone at times.

I thought Drysdale looked much better, really balanced on his skates, can move backward and laterally and was using that skill to buy space so he couldn't be checked off the puck and to buy time to survey the ice. Think they're teaching him that, he's too small to win battles, has to use speed and agility to create space.

Cates really doesn't belong on a checking line, his strength is puck possession, especially in crowds, but he's not fast enough to dump and chase.

Brink played well again except for one boneheaded pass in his D-zone that was almost a goal. He's playing at both ends of the ice and not afraid to mix it up, he lacks size but like TK can leverage and win puck battles.

Couts is basically playing like a PF, spending a lot of time in front of the net.

Frost is snakebit, but it's also obvious that he struggles to push a top line. While Tippett and TK struggled with him, they were the best line last year and worth keeping together. They need a Frost line to at least be decent.

Part of the problem is lack of talent, part of the problem is inexperience.
The chances are there, but they're just not able to finish plays, flubbing shots, mishandling pucks, the game just seems a little fast for them right now.
Is this code for they are not well coached nor are they a good team?
 
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bennysflyers16

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So were a number of unforced turnovers.

Actually, I think the best exits were from Drysdale, who wasn't the turnover machine he usually is, almost like Shaw told him to take a breath, don't be afraid to skate with the puck, and look where you're passing the puck.

They're both inexperienced, and have to be careful with a team like Boston b/c they can be knocked off the puck if they hold it too long.
Drysdale single handedly ruined all the PPs.

Drysdale had his way shifts away from Seeler.
 

deadhead

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Is this code for they are not well coached nor are they a good team?
They're not a good team, this is what rebuilding is all about, play a lot of inexperienced players and watch them struggle.

They'll get it together at some point, they're too talented to be this bad, but the goalies aren't good enough to carry them either.

At some point they'll start making plays, a few goals will go in, and they'll start scoring at a more normal rate. Frost isn't this bad, for example. Tippett makes a beautiful play, puck's on Frost's stick, doesn't get all of it but still goes through goalie's arm, hits his pad and bounces over the cross bar. When things aren't going well . . .

I still think they'll end up with 80-90 points. To get below 80, Ersson would have to be out for a few months.
 

deadhead

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Nice. Interesting point to be at in 2024
People keep saying they're not rebuilding, then how come they're so young with a lineup full of 1st and 2d rd picks 25 and under?
Andrae (22) #54
Brink (23) #34
Drysdale (22) #6
Farabee (24) #14
Foerster (23) #23
Frost (25) #27
Michkov (20) #7
Tippett (25) #10
York (23) #14
6 of your top 9 forwards, 3 of your 6 D-men.
Along with Ersson (25), Kolosov (23), Cates (25), Zamula (24)
And you wonder why this team is inconsistent?

Bonk (19) #23
Luchanko (18) #13
Berglund (18) #51
Tuomaala (21) #46
Gill (18) #59
Bjarnason (19) #51
along with Zavragin (19), Ciernak (20), Barkey (19), Ruohonen (18), Knuble (20), Bump (21), Sotheran (19), Avon (21). McDonald (22).

3 1sts, 3 2nds in the 2025 draft.

Doesn't mean it'll work out.
Briere has to find a couple top 6/top 4 types in the 2025 draft.
And it would help if 1 or 2 of the "lesser" prospects surprise, the way Zavragin has so far.
 

Gregor Samsa

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At a quick look the Flyers are 13-21-6 over their last 40 games so roughly playing at a 64-68 point pace. No reason to think this season won’t continue in this direction and it may get worse. I wouldn’t be against looking to move Frost, Farabee, and Tippett. So basically our second line. They haven’t done much this year anyway so I’m not sure how much worse it could get offensively
 

kudymen

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People keep saying they're not rebuilding, then how come they're so young with a lineup full of 1st and 2d rd picks 25 and under?
Andrae (22) #54
Brink (23) #34
Drysdale (22) #6
Farabee (24) #14
Foerster (23) #23
Frost (25) #27
Michkov (20) #7
Tippett (25) #10
York (23) #14
6 of your top 9 forwards, 3 of your 6 D-men.
Along with Ersson (25), Kolosov (23), Cates (25), Zamula (24)
And you wonder why this team is inconsistent?

Bonk (19) #23
Luchanko (18) #13
Berglund (18) #51
Tuomaala (21) #46
Gill (18) #59
Bjarnason (19) #51
along with Zavragin (19), Ciernak (20), Barkey (19), Ruohonen (18), Knuble (20), Bump (21), Sotheran (19), Avon (21). McDonald (22).

3 1sts, 3 2nds in the 2025 draft.

Doesn't mean it'll work out.
Briere has to find a couple top 6/top 4 types in the 2025 draft.
And it would help if 1 or 2 of the "lesser" prospects surprise, the way Zavragin has so far.

So you have addressed the "inexperienced" half of the quote. Is this list also addressing the "lack of talent" half? If so, yay for scouting and development!
 

bennysflyers16

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So you have addressed the "inexperienced" half of the quote. Is this list also addressing the "lack of talent" half? If so, yay for scouting and development!
Those so called inexperienced guys all have a lot of games played less MM and Andrae , and they were two of the best players lol.
 
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Gregor Samsa

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I would like to see Briere start putting more of his mark on the team and start turning it over. It’s still mostly a Hextall and Fletcher team
 

trostol

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They're not a good team, this is what rebuilding is all about, play a lot of inexperienced players and watch them struggle.

They'll get it together at some point, they're too talented to be this bad, but the goalies aren't good enough to carry them either.

At some point they'll start making plays, a few goals will go in, and they'll start scoring at a more normal rate. Frost isn't this bad, for example. Tippett makes a beautiful play, puck's on Frost's stick, doesn't get all of it but still goes through goalie's arm, hits his pad and bounces over the cross bar. When things aren't going well . . .

I still think they'll end up with 80-90 points. To get below 80, Ersson would have to be out for a few months.
Psst...they are not rebuilding
 

Flyerfan4life

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I would like to see Briere start putting more of his mark on the team and start turning it over. It’s still mostly a Hextall and Fletcher team
ummm this is year 3 of a 3 year rebuild... this is basicly the culture roster they wanted to build..

best #buckle in...

seeing CHI in the league basement you just know they gunna win the Hagens lotto to play alongside Bedard
 

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