Post-Game Talk: Don't worry folks, Andersen won't play tomorrow night.

[Kiwi]

I was but not happy about it. It's sad he put up .936 and still was outplayed by 2 other goalies. It's why looking at raw SV% is misleading. This season it's not misleading.
When your starter is getting outplayed by Hutch, you have problems.

It's that bad I'd give Hutch a run of games because I doubt he can be worse than this

I'm worried Andersen is going to start affecting how the team plays in front of him if this continues

 

[Dave92]

Or our former player that kinda sounds like him
Hall of Famer , Labrador Hall though

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who remembers good ole Joe

When i first looked at that i thought it was a photoshop of Lou's face on some former players head lol.

 

[therealkoho]

You were fortunate enough to see the Leafs win a cup!!! I on the other hand have never seen the Leafs even participate in a Stanley Cup final. Ugh

When I was 9 I saw my first ever in person Leafs game in the Gardens, game 2 of the 62 cup final I still remember most of it Leafs won but Bobby Hull was unfriggin real

also saw Muhammad Ali fight George Chuvalo there in 66

 

[stickty111]

It's that bad I'd give Hutch a run of games because I doubt he can be worse than this

I'm worried Andersen is going to start affecting how the team plays in front of him if this continues

You start to wonder if the team has quit on him.

 

[6ix]

I was a big Freddy fan but today was the last straw for me. Dude has changed pads a billion times you can tell he is scrambling to find confidence.

I’ve never seen a 6’4” goalie look so small in the net.

I defended him on the first two goals but that third goal just can’t happen. Back breaker.

Exactly, the guy is 6’4 with massive equipment yet he can NEVER get a piece of a deflected puck. This guy gets beat on ANYTHING that has a slight change of direction. So Immobile and lackadaisical.

 

[Teeder Keon]

When i first looked at that i thought it was a photoshop of Lou's face on some former players head lol.

Lololololol
Kinda looks like a young Sittler
Joe was a pretty good prospect at the time , but alas another leaf prospect that turned into a failed prospector ....

 

[Leafs87]

I dunno if I’d blame this loss totally on Andersen, but he has proven to not be a good starter time and time again. 2X against Boston and once against CBJ. I also don’t blame those losses on him, but he just wasn’t good and gave up bad goals at bad times.

The team plays unenthusiastic hockey in front of him, cause they know no lead is safe with him.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

i have been a fan for 50 + years,,started roughly when i was 6 (1970)

but recall clearly by 1972

1964 birth year. Same here. I had to go to bed before some Saturday night games and would sneak around trying to watch. Every time i got sent back to my room i would be back out after i served my 2 minute penalty ha

 

[Teeder Keon]

Its time to bring up Robertson , Lilly and Sabourin

 

[IPS]

I dunno if I’d blame this loss totally on Andersen, but he has proven to not be a good starter time and time again. 2X against Boston and once against CBJ. I also don’t blame those losses on him, but he just wasn’t good and gave up bad goals at bad times.

The team plays unenthusiastic hockey in front of him, cause they know no lead is safe with him.

This is past the point of blaming losses on Andersen or addressing any one single game.

This is about addressing the blatant weak link on this team that is costing us wins. I gave Andersen a pass last season because our D most definitely looked spotty between the crazy injury situation, Barrie sucking, and having no depth.

I'm really starting to wonder if last year's D was even that bad... Freddy's been on a constant nosedive and it's only getting worse.

 

[IPS]

I know where this is going.

Please, by all means, defend our sub .900 starter.

I will note that Brossoit allowing two weak-ish goals doesn’t make Andersen’s shite play any better. This whataboutism is embarrassing and just goes to show how hard the barrel has to be scraped to defend Andersen. “Well the other teams backup allowed some soft goals, so we shouldn’t hold our starter to a high standard.”

It ain't even worth addressing Jimmy. I sure don't feel the need to anyway, Andersen's play and stats speak for itself.

 

[6ix]

This is past the point of blaming losses on Andersen or addressing any one single game.

This is about addressing the blatant weak link on this team that is costing us wins. I gave Andersen a pass last season because our D most definitely looked spotty between the crazy injury situation, Barrie sucking, and having no depth.

I'm really starting to wonder if last year's D was even that bad... Freddy's been on a constant nosedive and it's only getting worse.

I can’t remember the last time I said “thank God we have Freddy in net”

The guy hasn’t been a positive in 2 years.

 

[Leafs87]

This is past the point of blaming losses on Andersen or addressing any one single game.

This is about addressing the blatant weak link on this team that is costing us wins. I gave Andersen a pass last season because our D most definitely looked spotty between the crazy injury situation, Barrie sucking, and having no depth.

I'm really starting to wonder if last year's D was even that bad... Freddy's been on a constant nosedive and it's only getting worse.

All I can say is that Campbell’s few games last year gave me hope. I was hoping he would actually get a start in the playoffs last year.

I liked Andersen but something happened to him and he can’t be relied on anymore. It seems it’s always constant excuses. Last year, it was he’s rusty, this that. He’s over played.
I just can’t stand it anymore. This is a competitive team, but if goaltending isn’t figured out, doesn’t matter who they bring in to “bring them over the top”. I’m a firm believer in you’re only as good as you’re goaltender. There is no other sport I can think of where goaltending is a make or break

 

[IPS]

I was but not happy about it. It's sad he put up .936 and still was outplayed by 2 other goalies. It's why looking at raw SV% is misleading. This season it's not misleading.
When your starter is getting outplayed by Hutch, you have problems.

Columbus was one of the worst offensive teams in the league last season. We put up extremely impressive defensive metrics in that series.

@Zybalto (among others) hammered this home a lot in the offseason and I didn't believe it.... well I was definitely wrong. Freddy is just utter shite and has been for awhile.

 

[Kiwi]

You start to wonder if the team has quit on him.

And you get guys running around trying to block everything instead of sticking to sound defensive fundamentals and the system

 

[Faltorvo]

1964 birth year. Same here. I had to go to bed before some Saturday night games and would sneak around trying to watch. Every time i got sent back to my room i would be back out after i served my 2 minute penalty ha

i was allowed to stay up for the Sats but never got past the 1rst on the Wed games(school nights)

 

[therealkoho]

Would be interesting if the NHL kept records for officials in terms of penalties called, against whom, which players. Would love to do a little digging on Graham Skilliter and crew.

There are standards believe it or not that they have to adhere to, but fans aren't privy to how they're graded!

It's my understanding that each coach after every game sends in a written report and a critique of the officials, the critique has to be backed up by video.

Each referee is graded on a points system (as an example each game could be worth up to 50 points or what have you, they are then graded by the league based on the game reports. Sometimes they get a call from the league, sometimes they get a visit from a management type, but if they do a particularly crappy enough job in a game, especially a nationally broadcast game, a game which say creates a lot of negative media and fan reactions, then they would possibly be asked to come in to have a face to face meeting with, the league, attended by Stephen Walkom Senior VP and Director of league officiating and their union rep. The meeting could end up in a written warning, or being assessed a fine or even being suspended, which means no pay for the time period they don't work. The officials are privy to the game reports that get them in hot water, I've always wondered if some of them don't build up a certain amount of recrimination with individual players/teams and or coaches!

A running tally is kept so by the regular season's end, those with the highest totals will get to do the playoff games(lot's of extra dough on top of their salaries)

If an official scores very low over the season they could end up back in the A, or behind a desk and having to re-qualify or at worst looking for employment

 

[killer1980]

1964 birth year. Same here. I had to go to bed before some Saturday night games and would sneak around trying to watch. Every time i got sent back to my room i would be back out after i served my 2 minute penalty ha

I was such a rebel, I went to every game of the 67 Stanley Cup Final... with my mother. 3 Games at the Forum, we took the overnight train to Montreal, and 3 games at MLG including the Game 6 winner.

 

[therealkoho]

Or our former player that kinda sounds like him
Hall of Famer , Labrador Hall though

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who remembers good ole Joe

I think he may have had a cup or two of coffee but wasn't offered to stay for lunch

 

[AvroArrow]

That was a great game for 56 minutes, referees decided to f*** the last 4 minutes. Still can't get over how that was a penalty on Rielly to make it 4-2, Ehlers skates into him and falls. And then wtf was that call on Hyman ? And then a bench minor for calling out the refs on their BS. Stupid f***ing ending to a great game. Hats off to Winnipeg for tightening up on D but ffs you need to let the players decide the outcome, that was a joke.

 

[Teeder Keon]

I think he may have had a cup or two of coffee but wasn't offered to stay for lunch

One cup only , no sugar or cream !
And no lunch or dinner

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I was such a rebel, I went to every game of the 67 Stanley Cup Final... with my mother. 3 Games at the Forum, we took the overnight train to Montreal, and 3 games at MLG including the Game 6 winner.

That’s awesome. Special stuff right there champ

 

[therealkoho]

What good is trading for Forsberg going to do if we see this version of Andersen in the playoffs again?

Dubas going all in at the deadline without addressing the elephant in the room could be a major mistake.

and you don't think once Campbell gets healthy he's not going to get a chance to run with it and maybe keep it? or are you actually suggesting that the Leafs go goaltender shopping at this point in the season, you know that has never worked out anywhere(at least to my knowledge) even in a fantasy, and secondly which of the benevolent GM's in the league that Dubas can stroke are going to shoot the Leafs a sperm whale sized life preserver if the form of a Vezina kind of guy?

right now FredLight is a UFA July 1, his tenure is coming to a close, so he either picks it up and starts making the saves he should be making and retains the starter position or Soupy Jack gets his shot, if both stumble then it's Hutch, or Woll and hoping he can turn into Rogie Vachon, if none of those work out then it's time for a reboot

 

[stickty111]

Columbus was one of the worst offensive teams in the league last season. We put up extremely impressive defensive metrics in that series.

@Zybalto (among others) hammered this home a lot in the offseason and I didn't believe it.... well I was definitely wrong. Freddy is just utter shite and has been for awhile.

Yeah we were certainly the better team in the series, but we couldn't score and Freddy allowed awful goals at bad times.

And you get guys running around trying to block everything instead of sticking to sound defensive fundamentals and the system

Yup. They are scared to allow shots.

 

[killer1980]

That’s awesome. Special stuff right there champ

Thank you. It was one of the greatest thrills of my life, that and being in the Winners Circle of the 1983 Kentucky Derby when Sunny's Halo, only the 2nd Canadian-bred horse, to ever win The Run For The Roses.