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DKH

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81 Isles, saw a lot of that team those years. You are correct, they could play any way you wanted and would beat you either way. Not sure people understand just how great Brian Trottier was.

Trottier was a 3 zone beast

I loved Tonelli but they were just so damn deep and getting Butch Goring just tied it all in

The yzerman Red Wings actually were a lot like the Islanders but illitch spent more than others and they almost were the Yankees.

Jacobs led the charge because of those Detroit teams but they were skilled and tough - yzerman was their Trottier
 

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Sound reasoning.

His whole claim to fame is Charlie McAvoy.He has done nothing to help product on the ice last 2 years Lose a Ericcson and sign a Backes is a lateral move. Players are not stupid. Especially ones doing the real lifting. You think guys in that room do not know Jimmy Hayes sucks? They see lack of help to push them forward.Jesus a blind guy could see his body of work. There is no reasoning for Sweeney doing nothing and getting paid I can tell u that.
 

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His whole claim to fame is Charlie McAvoy.He has done nothing to help product on the ice last 2 years Lose a Ericcson and sign a Backes is a lateral move. Players are not stupid. Especially ones doing the real lifting. You think guys in that room do not know Jimmy Hayes sucks? They see lack of help to push them forward.Jesus a blind guy could see his body of work. There is no reasoning for Sweeney doing nothing and getting paid I can tell u that.

That Carlo guy seems pretty good? Senyshyn isn't as ****** as a lot are trying to claim.
 

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I realize Bob McKenzie teeeted out props for the Bruins doing the difficult task of retooling and trying to make playoffs but good to see the organization from Cam on down has the Bruins in the discussion as one of the couple of prospect laden teams in the game

A 95+ point team with those deep pockets impressive

Can't wait to see a top 6 on D

Lauzon- McAvoy
Krug-Carlo
O'Gara - Chiller

Move over 77 Canadiens

How many years is it going to take before that is good enough to contend?

and you're just throwing Lauzon to top pairing right away.
 

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We can probably slow our roll on McAvoy too. Sure he probably winds up as a productive NHLer, but there's a big gap between a #1 and a #4. Let's not crown him yet. I remember the last world juniors where that happened in Ottawa with one Curtis Lazar, the next one...
 

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We can probably slow our roll on McAvoy too. Sure he probably winds up as a productive NHLer, but there's a big gap between a #1 and a #4. Let's not crown him yet. I remember the last world juniors where that happened in Ottawa with one Curtis Lazar, the next one...

Weren't you going on and on about Colin White and how the Bruins should have taken him?
 

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How many years is it going to take before that is good enough to contend?

and you're just throwing Lauzon to top pairing right away.

Take out the right away part

Chara likely here another few years
 

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question: if we miss the playoffs both this year and next, was the ownership/Sweeney way a total mistake? Rather than signing the older guys could/should they have gone cheaper/younger? To me the answer is yes, obviously if you miss your goals (and in the weakest division in the NHL), you planned poorly. But I'll always wonder how much of a gun to his head Sweeney had in all this.
 

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Really? I can see him struggling thru one or two at the most but a few is kind of hard to imagine.

Yeah it is tough to picture. He is definitely looking more his age, but I suppose if he can maintain is fitness and we don't see much of a dropoff in his game, he could be another Chelios. If A 44 years old Chara is still playing as a 4/5 defenseman and isn't hurting us while out there, power to him :yo:
 

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Take out the right away part

Chara likely here another few years

That doesn't change that you have a top pairing with 0 NHL experience in your post and Bergeron will be 32y, Krejci 31y and Backes 33y this offseason.
If Sweeney continues his nothing line he needs to start drafting high end C's to replace them.

Keeping Chara will just take away a spot from one of the kids.
 

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Sweeney better get something for Liles at the deadline. Only way to salvage a litlle giving quality picks to get him last year AND re-signing him this year...

Another hope is that he either trade K.Miller or we are lucky enough and Vegas takes him in the expansion draft.

If Sweeney even think of protecting K.Miller or McQuaid over C.Miller, he should be fired on the spot.
 

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Sweeney better get something for Liles at the deadline. Only way to salvage a litlle giving quality picks to get him last year AND re-signing him this year...

Another hope is that he either trade K.Miller or we are lucky enough and Vegas takes him in the expansion draft.

If Sweeney even think of protecting K.Miller or McQuaid over C.Miller, he should be fired on the spot.

Who, what, and if Sweeney makes a trade at the deadline will depend a lot on where Boston is in the standing around that time.

If they are in second or third place still - most likely he keeps Liles, K. Miller, McQuaid, and C. Miller for depth purposes unless there is a significant upgrade of a defenseman coming back. The remote chance that McAvoy joins the team at the end of the year is a possibility that could make trading one of the aforementioned possible.
 

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Not one of JFK, Senyshyn, Bjork, DeBust, Heinen, Gabrielle will ever be top-6 or maybe even top-9 forwards.

Doesn't the constant pimping of all these over-drafted Ruins prospects, only to see almost all of them fail miserably,
get tiring after a while?

You watch these guys?
 

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His whole claim to fame is Charlie McAvoy.He has done nothing to help product on the ice last 2 years Lose a Ericcson and sign a Backes is a lateral move. Players are not stupid. Especially ones doing the real lifting. You think guys in that room do not know Jimmy Hayes sucks? They see lack of help to push them forward.Jesus a blind guy could see his body of work. There is no reasoning for Sweeney doing nothing and getting paid I can tell u that.

While McAVOY is a Sweeney home run, we will see. He has managed to stock pile some real strong youngsters with solid potential, He has also signed a few players long term we could have done with out. Backes has been his best signing. Thats really all he has done.

What he has not done is make an NHL hockey trade to help this border line team take steps to the next level. What makes him a failure is the team is very close to be at that next level, yet Sweeney in two years has failed hard at finding a couple of players to replace what he traded. He reworked the cap situation.

His grade is a C+. He has till the deadline to improve the grade. He should be fired if he does not come up with a blockbuster that helps us win now. He was not given a five year window when he was hired. This is a original six franchise that charges top dollar. You dont get to wait it out till the kids come.
 

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While McAVOY is a Sweeney home run, we will see. He has managed to stock pile some real strong youngsters with solid potential, He has also signed a few players long term we could have done with out. Backes has been his best signing. Thats really all he has done.

What he has not done is make an NHL hockey trade to help this border line team take steps to the next level. What makes him a failure is the team is very close to be at that next level, yet Sweeney in two years has failed hard at finding a couple of players to replace what he traded. He reworked the cap situation.

His grade is a C+. He has till the deadline to improve the grade. He should be fired if he does not come up with a blockbuster that helps us win now. He was not given a five year window when he was hired. This is a original six franchise that charges top dollar. You dont get to wait it out till the kids come.
You want him fired?

How long have you been a Bruins fan?
 

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That doesn't change that you have a top pairing with 0 NHL experience in your post and Bergeron will be 32y, Krejci 31y and Backes 33y this offseason.
If Sweeney continues his nothing line he needs to start drafting high end C's to replace them.

Keeping Chara will just take away a spot from one of the kids.

Sweeney will be getting fired apparently maybe Chara can be like Bill Russell

Also Captain Bone says they are all busts - DeBusts:laugh: thdtc is funny

If they are all DeBusts then Chara and maybe Liles needs to bec resigned
 

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You want him fired?

How long have you been a Bruins fan?

I want him fired if he continues to waste my Stanley Cup winning teams core players prime years without getting them the help needed to compete for the cup which should be the thing that matters most here, but for some reason from mgmt. a seemingly lack of urgency, that does not seem the case. This is now year 3 that under Sweeney we are teetering on a playoff spot. Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Chara, Rask, are players you try to win with. Not waste. Either try to win now or sell them off also.

But playing it half way while leaving the fan base clueless as to what your plan is while your hand is in their pocket while you send out playoff ticket orders in late March, not knowing if you are even making it, is a classless way for a team to treat their fans. Especially loyal fans like ours. Everyone knows we are under manned, I am sure our veterans do also, lets see if Sweeney knows it.
 

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While McAVOY is a Sweeney home run, we will see. He has managed to stock pile some real strong youngsters with solid potential, He has also signed a few players long term we could have done with out. Backes has been his best signing. Thats really all he has done.

What he has not done is make an NHL hockey trade to help this border line team take steps to the next level. What makes him a failure is the team is very close to be at that next level, yet Sweeney in two years has failed hard at finding a couple of players to replace what he traded. He reworked the cap situation.

His grade is a C+. He has till the deadline to improve the grade. He should be fired if he does not come up with a blockbuster that helps us win now. He was not given a five year window when he was hired. This is a original six franchise that charges top dollar. You dont get to wait it out till the kids come.

I like your post but will counter Sweeney does not have time to sit till deadline cause of games at hand. Tick tock.
 

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I want him fired if he continues to waste my Stanley Cup winning teams core players prime years without getting them the help needed to compete for the cup which should be the thing that matters most here, but for some reason from mgmt. a seemingly lack of urgency, that does not seem the case. This is now year 3 that under Sweeney we are teetering on a playoff spot. Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Chara, Rask, are players you try to win with. Not waste. Either try to win now or sell them off also.

But playing it half way while leaving the fan base clueless as to what your plan is while your hand is in their pocket while you send out playoff ticket orders in late March, not knowing if you are even making it, is a classless way for a team to treat their fans. Especially loyal fans like ours. Everyone knows we are under manned, I am sure our veterans do also, lets see if Sweeney knows it.

Who should he have sold and for what return? Playoff teams dont trade nhl ready talent.

Dougie may been able to be shopped for a more nhl ready player but the return as a whole was a great grab.

If we are trying not to "waste the core" who gets traded for any real returns?

Prospects are the answer, which we NOW have an abundance of. Before a trade for a guy like landeskog, duchene etc wouldve gutted our pool, now we have currency(picks, many prospects, players like spooner etc) who can be packaged to get reinforcements for the core to make a run.

While signing a supporting cast(backes, moore) and spooner, pasta, czarnik and vatrano filling that youth/speed/secondary scoring we have been missing while adding other pieces needed for a run (penalty kill grit guys) who can skate and score more than some other past 4th line staples.

Fancy stats say we are one of if not the best possession and least lucky scoring team in the league.

Tuukka is carrying the team and he sent the vet (dobby) down to let youth back him up, and mcintyre looks better and if he is playing poor at least him is learning against nhlers and growing rather than loosing games and being washed up like dobby looked to be.

The top 6 is getting crowded with vatrano scoring again and spooner-czarnik add valuable depth scoring. We are one (year) top4 d (mcavoy) away from having an awesome balance with shut down(chara, carlo) and speed(mcavoy and krug). Even if mcavoy struggles colin miller is looking like a growing 4-5 who is getting better quick.


Questioning action is ok. we clearly need a few moves, but until now i dont think we had the currency to make the moves. Sweeney has done 3/4 of the work now he needs to cash in some prospects and make sure the right ones can stay and grow into impact players.
 

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I want him fired if he continues to waste my Stanley Cup winning teams core players prime years without getting them the help needed to compete for the cup which should be the thing that matters most here, but for some reason from mgmt. a seemingly lack of urgency, that does not seem the case. This is now year 3 that under Sweeney we are teetering on a playoff spot. Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Chara, Rask, are players you try to win with. Not waste. Either try to win now or sell them off also.

But playing it half way while leaving the fan base clueless as to what your plan is while your hand is in their pocket while you send out playoff ticket orders in late March, not knowing if you are even making it, is a classless way for a team to treat their fans. Especially loyal fans like ours. Everyone knows we are under manned, I am sure our veterans do also, lets see if Sweeney knows it.

How long you been watching the Bruins?

You said you watched the 1981 Islanders play yet you want this guy fired before 2 years.

You Are telling me you been watching Bruins hockey for at least 35 years and you think this guy is doing a crap job
 

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Sweeney will be getting fired apparently maybe Chara can be like Bill Russell

Also Captain Bone says they are all busts - DeBusts:laugh: thdtc is funny

If they are all DeBusts then Chara and maybe Liles needs to bec resigned

I don't understand what this has to do with my post.
 

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Who, what, and if Sweeney makes a trade at the deadline will depend a lot on where Boston is in the standing around that time.

If they are in second or third place still - most likely he keeps Liles, K. Miller, McQuaid, and C. Miller for depth purposes unless there is a significant upgrade of a defenseman coming back. The remote chance that McAvoy joins the team at the end of the year is a possibility that could make trading one of the aforementioned possible.

Sweeney will not be selling at the deadline. He needs the playoffs. He will be buying, unless they are hopelessly out.
 
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