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18 of 21? I`m sorry, not a chance, has this team even had a modest win streak this season?

There is absolutely no indication based on performance this season that this team has any significant win streak in them.

There are at least te games they lost this season, they could easily have won and in some cases should have. They outshoot the opponents on a nightly basis. The 5x5 play is very solid. 1-0 L to Chicago, That game could easily have been a win. The "corsi" is top 1-3 in the league. While that is not an end all stat, it is still a positive.

I believe Vatrano could be big down the stretch and Pasta will get hot again. The post says IF Sweeney can add a top Dman. Hockey is a funny game. Teams have done it. Ottawa did it. Philly did it a couple years back. I am a fan. I believe they could do it because they play a style that could get it done.
 

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There are at least te games they lost this season, they could easily have won and in some cases should have. They outshoot the opponents on a nightly basis. The 5x5 play is very solid. 1-0 L to Chicago, That game could easily have been a win. The "corsi" is top 1-3 in the league. While that is not an end all stat, it is still a positive.

I believe Vatrano could be big down the stretch and Pasta will get hot again. The post says IF Sweeney can add a top Dman. Hockey is a funny game. Teams have done it. Ottawa did it. Philly did it a couple years back. I am a fan. I believe they could do it because they play a style that could get it done.


At minimum they need a pair of wingers, at least one CAPABLE defense man, and a goalie. On top of that all the core players have to stop playing like trash... Not something I would start giving up futures for.
 

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At minimum they need a pair of wingers, at least one CAPABLE defense man, and a goalie. On top of that all the core players have to stop playing like trash... Not something I would start giving up futures for.

The holes in this teams roster have certainly been identified by nearly all of us at one time of another. They are obvious. The only reason I think Ottawa is better right now? Erik Karlsson, plus the fact they have been without their #1 Goalie nearly all year. Try that in Boston.

As for sacrificing futures, I disagree. Contractually you don't want all of your prospects coming of age for RFA at the same time. Toronto will face this problem. We must have earmarked the ones that fit the plan, and the ones that don't.

Time to supplement the roster with a 25 year old potential blue chipper and sent some futures the other way.

I believe this for two reasons. It'd be a way for Don Sweeney to potentially keep his job another day and 2) for salary cap structure and the realities of roster building.

Hopefully our Development Staff don't recommend getting rid of the wrong guys, but we have lots to consider here. And they need too.
 

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Okay I've defended Sweeney the last few weeks and the reasons are well-documented. The theory was it's probably fair to give him another year to learn how to make better moves at the NHL level given how well he's done at the player development level.

But that said, being absent over the last week plus and allowing this team to freefall now speaks to his leadership ability. Trade rumors, coaching change rumors, leaders speaking out, etc. And still these guys hide. I've come to expect a lack of leadership and accountability from Neely, but Sweeney owes it to his own career to step out from the shadows, even if he doesn't have any action to take. It's no longer an excuse to pin this on his boss...he's the GM. If he wants to be a respected one at any point, I think he best face the music. He's way, way overdue.

Do something about the team and say or do something about the coach. Man up.
 

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Okay I've defended Sweeney the last few weeks and the reasons are well-documented. The theory was it's probably fair to give him another year to learn how to make better moves at the NHL level given how well he's done at the player development level.

But that said, being absent over the last week plus and allowing this team to freefall now speaks to his leadership ability. Trade rumors, coaching change rumors, leaders speaking out, etc. And still these guys hide. I've come to expect a lack of leadership and accountability from Neely, but Sweeney owes it to his own career to step out from the shadows, even if he doesn't have any action to take. It's no longer an excuse to pin this on his boss...he's the GM. If he wants to be a respected one at any point, I think he best face the music. He's way, way overdue.

Do something about the team and say or do something about the coach. Man up.

Evaluating.
 

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Okay I've defended Sweeney the last few weeks and the reasons are well-documented. The theory was it's probably fair to give him another year to learn how to make better moves at the NHL level given how well he's done at the player development level.

But that said, being absent over the last week plus and allowing this team to freefall now speaks to his leadership ability. Trade rumors, coaching change rumors, leaders speaking out, etc. And still these guys hide. I've come to expect a lack of leadership and accountability from Neely, but Sweeney owes it to his own career to step out from the shadows, even if he doesn't have any action to take. It's no longer an excuse to pin this on his boss...he's the GM. If he wants to be a respected one at any point, I think he best face the music. He's way, way overdue.

Do something about the team and say or do something about the coach. Man up.

Again, this certainly impacts "the room." Imagine the impact across the league with agents, players, etc. They'd do well to stay away from this dysfunction. Until THAT gets fixed, this franchise is toast.
 

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I don't think the product on the ice bothers as much as this handling of the coaching issue or the front office being a ghost towards the media and fans as things get ugly.

I think it's embarrassing watching the coach and his players address and defend his job while the front office refuse to.

An organization that preaches the importance of character amongst their team should take their own advice.
 

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I don't think the product on the ice bothers as much as this handling of the coaching issue or the front office being a ghost towards the media and fans as things get ugly.

I think it's embarrassing watching the coach and his players address and defend his job while the front office refuse to.

An organization that preaches the importance of character amongst their team should take their own advice.

I think that's just an old reputation, along with being "tough". This has been a new team for some time now. And I'm not sure it's had a genuine identity in a long time.
 

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If they end up with Liljegren we'll be laughing and smiling at the same time in the offseason,
imagine having Liljegren, McAvoy, Carlo on the right side :amazed:

Dream like that is helping me to get through this season.
 

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Okay I've defended Sweeney the last few weeks and the reasons are well-documented. The theory was it's probably fair to give him another year to learn how to make better moves at the NHL level given how well he's done at the player development level.

But that said, being absent over the last week plus and allowing this team to freefall now speaks to his leadership ability. Trade rumors, coaching change rumors, leaders speaking out, etc. And still these guys hide. I've come to expect a lack of leadership and accountability from Neely, but Sweeney owes it to his own career to step out from the shadows, even if he doesn't have any action to take. It's no longer an excuse to pin this on his boss...he's the GM. If he wants to be a respected one at any point, I think he best face the music. He's way, way overdue.

Do something about the team and say or do something about the coach. Man up.

Well Sweeney hates speaking to the media. However, if you don't like speaking to large groups of people, maybe being the manager of a big sports team isn't for you. The Peter principle applies here, Sweeney was good for player development and scouting, but doesn't have the skills to be a good general manager.
 

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Well Sweeney hates speaking to the media. However, if you don't like speaking to large groups of people, maybe being the manager of a big sports team isn't for you. The Peter principle applies here, Sweeney was good for player development and scouting, but doesn't have the skills to be a good general manager.

Gotta be honest, I don`t see a ton of GM`s speaking to the media and truthfully, when they do, rarely do they have much to say and that small amount they do share, they usually get shredded by the fan base for what they didn`t say so what`s the point?
 

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Gotta be honest, I don`t see a ton of GM`s speaking to the media and truthfully, when they do, rarely do they have much to say and that small amount they do share, they usually get shredded by the fan base for what they didn`t say so what`s the point?

Because they only have a job because fans pay money? They owe the fan base an explanation sometimes.
 
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Not saying scouts make good GMs. I think ex-players and player agents make the best GMs.

I don't agree with this. Matter of fact I think it's the opposite.

The best GMs are those that combine experience, education, leadership skills, communication skills, and knowledge of the sport.

I don't care if he ever played a single shift at the NHL level.
 

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Well Sweeney hates speaking to the media. However, if you don't like speaking to large groups of people, maybe being the manager of a big sports team isn't for you. The Peter principle applies here, Sweeney was good for player development and scouting, but doesn't have the skills to be a good general manager.

I said this last week and I'm sticking to it. He seems to be an excellent developer of kids...but his moves with the NHL roster have been dreadful almost across the board. Trades, signings, lack of both, etc. It all seems bad.
 

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Because they only have a job because fans pay money? They owe the fan base an explanation sometimes.

Can`t recall the last time I have heard ownership or management of this team or another come out, do an interview and me leaving going "nice, that was refreshing". It`s always the same generic "we expect to contend", "were going to do everything to make this team stronger" BS

Want to know who the only one I`ve heard an honest assessment from? Claude bloody Julien with what I am sure many have already read below

"It’s frustrating. There are a lot of guys that, right now, aren’t giving us enough, and this is a team that I think needs all 20 guys going in order to win. We don’t have enough talent to think that we can get away with a mediocre game, so this is where it’s important for our guys to understand that and it’s important to have 20 guys that want to go. It’s okay to have talent, but you’ve got to compete. For others, you’ve got to get involved. You’ve got to be willing to do the things that are not fun to do but are going to help your hockey club. It’s too bad because I think the players we expect a lot out of every night are certainly battling every night, but we need more than that . . .

http://www.csnne.com/boston-bruins/...g-point-struggling-inconsistent-boston-bruins

Finally, someone willing to say what almost everyone here is saying, this team lacks the talent where there`s one guy, maybe 2 who can change the complexion of the game on his own like the team they played yesterday has with a Crosby or Malkin and they need all hands on deck

Haven`t heard Sweeney, Neely or the Jacobs say anything remotely this honest because they won`t
 
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