Dominique Ducharme Shares His Story with Tony Marinaro

[ReHabs]

I once calculated and it came out to over 100m in wages was handed to Weber+Price and what we got out of it was less than one playoff series win/season and more or less boring, no scoring and inconsistent hockey throughout.

With that infamous “win-now” trade, the Habs burned 100m on just two players and have a beatdown in the SCF to show for it.

Not sure if Reggie Houle would do this badly had he this much financial leverage to just burn the owner’s money.

And we have another what, 20m+ left for Gallagher? Another 30m for Pricey. Alzner who was a bust from day1, I think at least 15m was burned on him. Bergevin committed 30m to Drouin. Nearly 20m to Hoffman. 14m to Savard.

Houle wasn’t allowed to spend. Bergevin entered the season with the highest payroll in the NHL last year at nearly 100m. That was probably the highest since the 2005 Lockout.

 

[RC51]

Habs had a bad year for sure. Covid+injuries had to the hab play the ahl rookies for 1/2 the year.
BUT Dom has a plan A, and thats it. When all the others teams adjusted to Dom's plan A, Dom never had a plan B or C. Never did he try to adjust to the other teams sudden plan against Dom's plan A.
Example- Telling Caufield to play better defense, Stop trying to score on every shift. Dom took offense players and tried to get them to play defense. ALL MARTIN DID was to take the chains off the offense.
NOW? one thing all NHL teams hate is someone that blame everybody else. Yikes!!
Dom in the NHL- nope, Dom in the AHL maybe. But at leastI am not worried where Doms next steak is coming from. He has a few US millions now.

 

[CHwest]

Ducharmes still under contract with the Habs for millions. What are the rules if he coaches elsewhere ? Does he have to waive the contract ?

 

[tazsub3]

Habs had a bad year for sure. Covid+injuries had to the hab play the ahl rookies for 1/2 the year.
BUT Dom has a plan A, and thats it. When all the others teams adjusted to Dom's plan A, Dom never had a plan B or C. Never did he try to adjust to the other teams sudden plan against Dom's plan A.
Example- Telling Caufield to play better defense, Stop trying to score on every shift. Dom took offense players and tried to get them to play defense. ALL MARTIN DID was to take the chains off the offense.
NOW? one thing all NHL teams hate is someone that blame everybody else. Yikes!!
Dom in the NHL- nope, Dom in the AHL maybe. But at leastI am not worried where Doms next steak is coming from. He has a few US millions now.

Dom, would be lucky to get a playstation nhl23 coaching job.

 

[MXD]

A coach should actually like coaching…

So the point of going to the Q is to coach. lol

Why would anyone take a job that pays less, has very very little opportunity for relevant advancement, would likely require him to forfeit huge paycheck (from his Habs contract) and is more demanding than their actual job?

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

If Dom have a full time job in some kind of media I will be listening. Not that I agree with him but a controversial element in the media can be welcome. I like to listen and read comments of people witch I totally disagree. I don't want to be a person who reads only comments that I will agree. But Ducharme is not a nazi or some kind of social toxic person. I just was a bad coach on a team on decline runned by a bad gm. Depite saying that, He went to the SC finals, partially because he was out some time with the covid but he was part of that surprising run. May he have some juicy and interresting things to say? I think so. May I will be agree with him? Probably not but it will be interresting to hear his point of view. Freedom and democraty!

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

If Dom have a full time job in some kind of media I will be listening. Not that I agree with him but a controversial element in the media can be welcome. I like to listen and read comments of people witch I totally disagree. I don't want to be a person who reads only comments that I will agree. But Ducharme is not a nazi or some kind of social toxic person. I just was a bad coach on a team on decline runned by a bad gm. Depite saying that, He went to the SC finals, partially because he was out some time with the covid but he was part of that surprising run. May he have some juicy and interresting things to say? I think so. May I will be agree with him? Probably not but it will be interresting to hear his point of view. Freedom and democraty!

His SC run was all circumstance base. Having the Canadian division really helped. 4 teams that would have lost most any other first round matchups playing against each other for 2 rounds was a blessing. Add to that matching with Vegas after a blood bath of a series against the now Stanley Cup champions…

It’s just strange that I feel like that run was a total mistake yet enjoyed every moment of it. It is what it is and they made the best of the situation.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

His SC run was all circumstance base. Having the Canadian division really helped. 4 teams that would have lost most any other first round matchups playing against each other for 2 rounds was a blessing. Add to that matching with Vegas after a blood bath of a series against the now Stanley Cup champions…

It’s just strange that I feel like that run was a total mistake yet enjoyed every moment of it. It is what it is and they made the best of the situation.

Partly agree but this is not the point I was posting. My point is I'm interrested to hear Ducharme's point of view because it's gonna be an ex inside point of view and maybe it's gonna be nasty. If you psycho analyse me you're gonna say I'm attracted by uglyness, hahaha, I wrote uglyness but I could have wrote another word. But I guess if he becomes part of the medias he's gonna turn into a mild cat, lol.

 

[NORiculous]

Why would anyone take a job that pays less, has very very little opportunity for relevant advancement, would likely require him to forfeit huge paycheck (from his Habs contract) and is more demanding than their actual job?

A lot of people choose careers that pay less for many reasons. The world is full of people who don’t put money as top priority once they have enough for a decent life.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

Partly agree but this is not the point I was posting. My point is I'm interrested to hear Ducharme's point of view because it's gonna be an ex inside point of view and maybe it's gonna be nasty. If you psycho analyse me you're gonna say I'm attracted by uglyness, hahaha, I wrote uglyness but I could have wrote another word. But I guess if he becomes part of the medias he's gonna turn into a mild cat, lol.

Nope, not judging. Media seems to think that only one story counts. Always nice to hear both sides of a story.

 

[MXD]

A lot of people choose careers that pay less for many reasons. The world is full of people who don’t put money as top priority once they have enough for a decent life.

Indeed. But that's a personnal choice, and Ducharme doesn't have to be held to a different standard.

 

[GrandBison]

A lot of people choose careers that pay less for many reasons. The world is full of people who don’t put money as top priority once they have enough for a decent life.

He should take the money and the time. Getting better at coaching for him probably means taking some psychology and communication courses, while taking time to watch as many hockey games as he could. These successful coaches never get fired until the big league. They learn on the fly with no step back moments.

 

[Kriss E]

I once calculated and it came out to over 100m in wages was handed to Weber+Price and what we got out of it was less than one playoff series win/season and more or less boring, no scoring and inconsistent hockey throughout.

With that infamous “win-now” trade, the Habs burned 100m on just two players and have a beatdown in the SCF to show for it.

Not sure if Reggie Houle would do this badly had he this much financial leverage to just burn the owner’s money.

And we have another what, 20m+ left for Gallagher? Another 30m for Pricey. Alzner who was a bust from day1, I think at least 15m was burned on him. Bergevin committed 30m to Drouin. Nearly 20m to Hoffman. 14m to Savard.

Houle wasn’t allowed to spend. Bergevin entered the season with the highest payroll in the NHL last year at nearly 100m. That was probably the highest since the 2005 Lockout.

That's why I personally put Bergevin beneath Houle.
One GM was pretty much told to get rid of salary, the other not only had some of the deepest pockets to play with in salary cap but he also had a ton of funds to build the absolute best scouts/developmental team in the NHL.

Of course being told to shed high profile players doesn't excuse getting a horrible return in the process, but Houle started with one hand tied behind his back. Meanwhile Bergevin received a silver plateau. Not only did he benefit from having one of the richest owners and spenders in the NHL, he also got two compliance buyouts to help him get rid of those tough contracts.

It's embarrassing what little result Bergevin produced.