Dom Luszczyszyn apologizes after agreeing to appear on podcast with Tony DeAngelo

[Blueline Bomber]

I recall his sarcastic tweet about COVID the day after the election, but did he actually deny the existence of it?

Probably depends on when he was asked about it. There was a lot of COVID denial in the early days (helped along by a certain political figure in charge at the time), but eventually everybody (well, everyone with a functioning brain) was forced to admit its existence because it became too ingrained in reality to deny.

 

[leafsfan5]

That is one interpretation of free speech.

But it can have different meanings in different contexts.

It is often tied to the principles of academic freedom and freedom of the press where speech can be restricted by non-government entities.

In Canada that is regulated by the provinces under 92(13) of the constitution

 

[Machinehead]

I recall his sarcastic tweet about COVID the day after the election, but did he actually deny the existence of it?

Yeah he was being sarcastic LMAO

 

[Canadienna]

We can pinpoint what he has done!

-He used a racist slur and was suspended for it. He admits he did it.
-He publicly denied COVID on his Twitter account, violating the team's policy on social media, not to mention their policy on COVID!
-He was caught with a burner account that he was using to start fights with fans that were paying customers of his team.
-He was also doing that on his verified account!
-He stayed up late, sometimes before games, on social media, to the point where his agent had to message him to tell him to go to bed.

If this isn't a problematic employee, then nothing is problematic.

The slur he used (to a former teammate) could have been deemed sexist, homophobic or racist, so to say he admitted to using a racist slur is, to my knowledge, untruthful.

The rest is just somebody having opinions/habits that you might find unlikeable.

 

[Edgelord]

Probably depends on when he was asked about it. There was a lot of COVID denial in the early days (helped along by a certain political figure in charge at the time), but eventually everybody (well, everyone with a functioning brain) was forced to admit its existence because it became too ingrained in reality to deny.

IIRC the label of COVID denier was used as a blanket statement for anyone who was against mandates or lockdowns. Or at least in my anecdotal experience. IF TDA denied the existence of COVID, he's an idiot but on the other 2 points(lockdowns/mandates), I feel people have different takes and thats OK

Somehow I have a quote in a quote

 

[FinnLightning26]

Didn't even realize this was playing in Russia nowadays. He's definitely where he belongs.

 

[Machinehead]

The slur he used (to a former teammate) could have been deemed sexist, homophobic or racist, so to say he admitted to using a racist slur is, to my knowledge, untruthful.

The rest is just somebody having opinions/habits that you might find unlikeable.

Oh I'm sorry, he may have been sexist or homophobic. I wouldn't want to sully his good name with baseless accusations.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Yeah he was being sarcastic LMAO

The day Biden became president elect, he tweeted "what happened to COVID-19" in response to what he perceived as a shifting narrative, after it was in the news constantly running up to the election.

Seems like sarcasm to me.

I'm not trying to defend him, just genuinely curious how stupid he actually was in that timeframe.

 

[Machinehead]

The day Biden became president elect, he tweeted "what happened to COVID-19" in response to what he perceived as a shifting narrative, after it was in the news constantly running up to the election.

Seems like sarcasm to me.

It wasn't.

 

[dracom]

both people suck, but one person is a morally shitty person, the other is just nerdy dork who think his fancy stat models mean anything.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

It wasn't.

That seems like a conclusion you've drawn based on your own personal bias.

I mean, the statement isn't even denying COVID, it's literally asking what happened to it, i.e. why is no one talking about it today.

Are there other comments he made that actually denied the existence of COVID?

 

[LevelingSolo]

Dom is a loser

 

[Machinehead]

That seems like a conclusion you've drawn based on your own personal bias.

I mean, the statement isn't even denying COVID, it's literally asking what happened to it, i.e. why is no one talking about it today.

Are there other comments he made that actually denied the existence of COVID?

I'm not going to take this any further because it's going to get political.

 

[LevelingSolo]

Wait until they hear about how the vast majority of American hockey players have the same beliefs as TDA!

I don’t think this place or Reddit could handle that fact

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I'm not going to take this any further because it's going to get political.

That's what I figured.

TDA is a scumbag in my books, and we don't need to manufacturer reasons beyond the facts to prove it.

 

[Hire Sather]

Sounds like two clowns getting way too much attention

 

[tarheelhockey]

What happened in Philly? I see different things from different media outlets.

AFAIK he just failed as a hockey player. I didn’t pick up on anything more than that, but admittedly I didn’t follow TDA or the Flyers that closely.

Freedom of the press is another governmental principle that has nothing to do with this. Would I be restricting the freedom of the press by not agreeing to be interviewed by the NYT, no matter what my reasons are? Of course not.

Same with this guy and TDA’s podcast. He’s not infringing on TDA’s right to say what he wants, he’s merely choosing to not be an active participant in those statements.

To your own point, nobody’s suggesting Dom is legally obligated to appear on any podcast. Seems like a rebuttal to an argument that wasn’t made.

It’s fully in-bounds to suggest Dom’s personal actions are aimed at preventing any sort of public discourse involving TDA. On a private level that does seem contrary to the underlying principles behind free speech (the “marketplace of ideas”). It’s an illustration of how a small-l liberal can inadvertently run counter to the capital-L liberalism which is the bedrock of the system which protects free speech in the first place.

That, in a nutshell, is why so many vocal liberals are grossed out by Dom’s eagerness to please the mob rather than just talking to a guy about a hockey disagreement.

 

[Edgelord]

this is a tough thread because the core element to discuss is inherently political

 

[Machinehead]

That's what I figured.

TDA is a scumbag in my books, and we don't need to manufacturer reasons beyond the facts to prove it.

I didn't manufacture anything. You can interpret what he said however you want and be as pedantic about it as you want. It was totally irresponsible to tweet as a representative of an NHL team.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I didn't manufacture anything. You can interpret what he said however you want and be as pedantic about it as you want. It was totally irresponsible to tweet as a representative of an NHL team.

Completely agreed there

 

[Machinehead]

this is a tough thread because the core element to discuss is inherently political

To an extent, his tweets about COVID are, because you kind of have to contextualize where they're coming from.

By and large, it's not tho. The team that most famously fired DeAngelo just held a Trump rally at their arena. He had some other problems going on.

 

[nyr2k2]

TDA is scummy, but why can't you get on a podcast with him and talk puck? I'm not familiar with the podcast--I can honestly say in my entire life I have not listened to a single podcast, ever--so if it's something more than hockey, maybe I'd get it. But if it's a legitimate hockey podcast just stop being a little bitch (Dom, not Tony) and do the thing.

I hate both of these guys, honestly.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He's the only person that looks bad out of this.

He cowered and got bullied by social media or his employer or someone.

If he can't have a discussion with Tony DeAngelo as if he's some notorious mob boss, that suggests he's the one with the issues, not Tony.

 

[kodoshin]

I had completely forgotten about Deangelo to the point where I was confusing him with the pro wrestler and wondering what he was doing on a podcast.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

They're both f***ing dummmmmmmb. Like Corey and Trevor dummmmmb