Dom Luszczyszyn apologizes after agreeing to appear on podcast with Tony DeAngelo

[NyQuil]

Yeah, this guy is the poster boy for insightful hockey talk.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I have posted WHY I have a problem with tony D.. but here is my thing. I believe in rehabilitation over retribution. Has Tony actually stepped up and admitted some of the stuff he did was shit or is he going the Mitch Miller approach and not doing anything to address what he said and did? Just curious. I am a pitch fork guy, but I will put my pitch fork away if someone admitts they have screwed up and address their issues

It depends on what you mean by “address what he said and did”. The last negative news he made was in early 2021 (the fight and political tweets). Since then he’s just been an ordinary pro hockey player, minding his business.

 

[Frank Drebin]

What an asshole. “I have seen the backlash “

How do guys like this get a platform in the first place

 

[Jumptheshark]

A big issue he had with previous employers was starting public fights on Twitter, and here he is starting a fight on Twitter, so there's that.

I am no longer on twitter. But in reading this thread and the additional posts he has made? Yeah. He has not learned his lesson.

Is Tony still in the K

 

[DackellDuck]

It depends on what you mean by “address what he said and did”. The last negative news he made was in early 2021 (the fight and political tweets). Since then he’s just been an ordinary pro hockey player, minding his business.

From what I remember, he was not well liked in the Rangers dressing room. Got in a fight with the goalie. So he’s one of hundreds of players who wore out their welcome with a specific team, at some point in time.

Other than that he publicly supported a person who has been voted to be the President of the United States twice… which means he has an opinion that 50 million other people have as well…?

So I’m not really sure how he’s “problematic” to the point where you don’t want to talk hockey on a podcast with him, but everyone’s entitled to be offended by whatever they want I guess.

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

Dom has always been a legit weirdo but apologizing for intending to have a talk with someone is next level bizarre. Tony owned him again...

 

[leafsfan5]

This is genuinely some of the softest shit I've seen in my life

Like I'm 10000% sure I agree with Dom on issues (including and beyond hockey) much more than I do with DeAngelo. But I physically recoil at how pathetic this is by Dom

 

[BonMorrison]

The funny thing is it wasn't even his platform. Him and DeAngelo were asked to be on a third party podcast.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Perhaps Tony D is based, perhaps @EdJovanovski was right all along.

This Dom dude is an absolute joke in this situation but TDA man you gotta know when there is a golden opportunity to take the high road and be better for it

 

[Legion34]

I'm totally lost on the dunking on DeAngelo thing? So I looked at his history, he said something very inappropriate stuff when he was 17 or 18? Is this something that deserves a lifetime ban?

And then he punched Georgiev after playing poorly and saying something to him? Avs fans would probably buy out his jersey if that happened today

And without going there, he supports a political party 70%? of NHLers do but is vocal about it? Is there more I'm missing? Honeslty everything negative I'm reading is just mentioning what he said as a 17 year old or reddit calling him scum for supporting Trump, is there more to this?

Georgiev punched him

 

[NyQuil]

This Dom dude is an absolute joke in this situation but TDA man you gotta know when there is a golden opportunity to take the high road and be better for it

At least he didn’t use the word “snowflake”.

I’m sure Bet365 must have had odds on that.

 

[Machinehead]

I'm totally lost on the dunking on DeAngelo thing? So I looked at his history, he said something very inappropriate stuff when he was 17 or 18? Is this something that deserves a lifetime ban?

And then he punched Georgiev after playing poorly and saying something to him? Avs fans would probably buy out his jersey if that happened today

And without going there, he supports a political party 70%? of NHLers do but is vocal about it? Is there more I'm missing? Honeslty everything negative I'm reading is just mentioning what he said as a 17 year old or reddit calling him scum for supporting Trump, is there more to this?

He publicly denied COVID while playing for the Rangers. That was probably the main impetus, with the fight being the last straw. You represent your employers and you can't say certain things. That's anywhere.

He's not banned from anything. He's had issues in the room everywhere he's gone and he's not that good so why would you put up with it?

 

[These Are The Days]

What the actual f***? How did the most random possible HF poster in history get Tony f***ing DeAngelo on a podcast?

 

[gritdash60]

A crazy person who went to a country who is invading another country with all they got, does not need to be interviewed or "dunked on" everyone who has half a brain understands what a clown that guy is.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

I don’t know how old you are, but “problematic” has been around for a long time without seemingly any controversy.

Or are we in the business of hating on multisyllabic words because they sound too complicated?

In the last 8-10 years the word “problematic” has become closely associated with what might be termed Cancel Culture. It’s gained a strong connotation of describing behavior or statements that violate more “progressive” norms or values.

E.g.,

“The kicker’s problematic remarks about the role of women sparked protest”

“The hockey player will have to answer for his problematic tweets in high school”

 

[NyQuil]

In the last 8-10 years the word “problematic” has become closely associated with what might be termed Cancel Culture. It’s gained a strong connotation of describing behavior or statements that violate more “progressive” norms or values.

E.g.,

“The kicker’s problematic remarks about the role of women sparked protest”

“The hockey player will have to answer for his problematic tweets in high school”

Problematic is a very useful word to use in all kinds of contexts.

"The exhaust system in his Dodge Charger was problematic."

What a dumb reason to hate a word.

We're cancelling problematic because of its use in cancel culture?

 

[K Fleur]

“I’m sorry I said I’d talk to a guy now please stop sending me mean tweets”

I’m sure I’d agree with Dom on more thing than DeAngelo(hockey and just about everything else) but that’s some some soft ass shit.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Georgiev punched him

The fight was never really that big of a deal. Hockey players, athletes in general, get in locker room fights often enough that everyone involved knows how to keep it behind closed doors.

The reason that specific fight became public was TDA making himself a lightning rod of bad press during that whole 2020 arc of events. He made himself a headache for the organization and the ill-timed fight was their opening to get rid of him cleanly. Fair play by the Rangers, but it put a pretty innocuous event at the center of the narrative.

The real issue with TDA has always been the political image he paints: the suspension for racial abuse, followed by a bunch of petty immature behavior, followed by taking to social media like your worst aunt when she found Facebook. Even in this most recent incident, he could have just left it at some light-hearted chirping but at the very end he had to take it to a political place. In any community there’s that guy, and in the NHL that guy is Tony DeAngelo. And that makes him a magnet for someone like Dom who’s apparently just as hysterical and annoying in the other direction.

 

[sepHF]

Shamed into submission. Hockey journalists really think they’re the main characters

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Not a TDA fan at all, but this Dom L. guy (not gonna bother with his last name) seems like a real loser, the keyboard warrior type.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Problematic is a very useful word to use in all kinds of contexts.

"The exhaust system in his Dodge Charger was problematic."

What a dumb reason to hate a word.

Did I say I hated it? Words have different connotations depending on context. No one would apply the meaning I described to the example you gave about a faulty exhaust system.

Likewise, if someone describes a tweet as problematic, they don’t mean the URL was broken

 

[DackellDuck]

Problematic is a very useful word to use in all kinds of contexts.

The exhaust system in his Dodge Charger was problematic.

Absolutely. But you’d have to be able to expand on what exactly makes the exhaust system in the Charger problematic, and explain the impact. Are they prone to leaks or blockages that reduce the efficiency of the engine causing you to burn more gas than you otherwise should?

They way people use “problematic” in terms of referring to other people is much different.

It’s become a “I can’t exactly pinpoint or explain anything terrible this person has said or done so I’ll use a vague catchall phrase to imply that I don’t like their very being and consider myself to be morally superior.”

 

[MNRube]

Glad things are changing. Lazarus the Hawks beat-writer is of the some ilk and these types of guys have had their moment but it feels like the western world is finally coming to their sense about this type of nonsense.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Backstory: Dom and TDA got into a back-and-forth about analytics versus the eye test. Dom was invited to join TDA on a podcast to debate face to face. Dom, high on the fumes of dunking on someone he hates, accepted the invitation. Then he found out that if you meet with someone publicly to humiliate them, then you aren’t cancelling them enough. So he walked back his attempt to embarrass a cancelled person by publicly re-cancelling him and refusing to even be physically present with him in the name of fighting intolerance (making a bunch of Twitter posts and a press release to dunk on him is still ok though).

Short version: two awful people being awful on the internet and ironically not seeing their similarities

Genuine thanks for this. Much needed context.



I would ask why anyone cares enough for this situation to even materialize, but I remembered I don't care enough.

 

[Machinehead]

Absolutely. But you’d have to be able to expand on what exactly makes the exhaust system in the Charger problematic, and explain the impact. Are they prone to leaks or blockages that reduce the efficiency of the engine causing you to burn more gas than you otherwise should?

They way people use “problematic” in terms of referring to other people is problematic because they fail to explain what makes them problematic.

It’s become a “I can’t exactly pinpoint or explain anything terrible this person has said or done so I’ll use a vague catchall phrase to imply that I don’t like their very being”.

We can pinpoint what he has done!