Does Marner get Boo’d?

[ULF_55]

It does seem pretty dumb.

Humans eh?

 

[Hellcat]

We lost Bert because Nyander (4.5m increase) and Matty ate up the cap increase and more. Marner has cost us players and has never put up 100 points in a season. 3 points in 7 playoff games vs Boston for $11m. Truth is, if Matty is not scoring and the PP is limp, Marner is not putting up elite numbers in the playoffs. He is a 16g player in the playoffs for $11m.

Stop being pedantic, he hit 99 two years ago and last year was on pace over 82 games for 103 points. 97 points in 72 games 3 years ago. 67 points in 55 games the year before, He's a 100 point guy all day.

You are wrong about 3 points in 7 games for an 11 mil cap hit, players are not paid their salary in the playoffs, they split a playoff pool.

 

[ULF_55]

You are wrong about 3 points in 7 games for an 11 mil cap hit, players are not paid their salary in the playoffs, they split a playoff pool.

Players don't get their salaries in the playoffs.

The Cap is only a concern for the regular season as it limits players you can have available for the playoffs, unless you are the VGK.

 

[Hellcat]

Strictly speaking as somebody who has never had the privilege of seeing a Maple Leafs home game, I cannot imagine showing up and booing a player, whatever your view of them may be at the time.

Most adults think the way you do, there a select few that are unhappy in life and need to exercise their uneducated anger at someone. In my day fans cheered their home team.

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What ya know, no where in the definition of the word "fan" does it say you boo your home team.
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Are you saying Marner will get 11?

$12.56m per, you can book it.

 

[Apex Predator]

?How is it you ignore he was obviously injured last season but whenever Mathews isn’t producing many fans regurgitate he is obviously injured?

I agree it’s so annoying when Matthews plays bad he always gets the “must be injured excuse. “

 

[Antropovsky]

Indeed too bad we lost a guy who generates 43 points vs a guy who generates 100 points... remember when Bert had 6 goals between Oct to mid Feb? Yeah that is the guy you want over a 100 point guy. Your trolling is getting out of hand..

Sure do, his stats suffered because he couldnt produce with Mitch Marner.

Bertuzzi w/Mitch Marner:
- 243 mins, 0 g/60, .25 a/60, 0.25 p/60

Bertuzzi/Marner had one primary assist together. It was a set up that created a tap in goal for the other player. Guess who set up the tap in? Bertuzzi threaded the needle for Marner to tap the puck in.

Bertuzzi with other players:
Tavares: 1:43 p/60
Nylander: 2.16 p/60
Matthews: 2.23 p/60
Domi: 3.1 p/60

Bertuzzi lines with Marner on them vs not:

Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander 2.64 g/60
Bertuzzi Matthews Marner 1.3 g/60
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander 2.64 g/60
Bertuzzi Tavares Marner 1.99 g/60
Bertuzzi Matthews Domi 6.51 g/60

 

[Craig Button]

I get that, but the OP was trying to suggest Matthews will suffer if we trade Marner. I'd argue his SC chances increases with Marner departure

Id argue anyone that leaves the Leafs has their SC chances increase. Remaining on the leafs is a sure way of decreasing your SC chances.

This has been proven fact by the Hockey gods since 1967

 

[IPS]

I agree it’s so annoying when Matthews plays bad he always gets the “must be injured excuse. “

That's definitely annoying as hell, no doubt about it.

 

[Craig Button]

.... when a player makes 11 million and is as dreadful as Marner in playoffs... we are losing quality players at his expense.

The post you make when you’ve been caught not making sense and instead of acknowledging it you try to make sense of what you were wrong about.

 

[ToneDog]

I guess you missed the pic when he met Berube well after the series ended (3 weeks), Still blackened calf. I can only imagine what it looked like when the series began.

Deep bruise? I thought high ankle sprain. Gilmour played with his foot frozen.

If Mitch can't get through the first round with a deep bruise, no way he makes it through another three rounds.

 

[ToneDog]

Stop being pedantic, he hit 99 two years ago and last year was on pace over 82 games for 103 points. 97 points in 72 games 3 years ago. 67 points in 55 games the year before, He's a 100 point guy all day.

You are wrong about 3 points in 7 games for an 11 mil cap hit, players are not paid their salary in the playoffs, they split a playoff pool.

Don't know about you but I expect our highest paid players to be our best in the playoffs. They get the most TOI for a reason and they disappoint. Proof is in the pudding. The three amigos have a post season record of 1 and 8.

 

[ToneDog]

Id argue anyone that leaves the Leafs has their SC chances increase. Remaining on the leafs is a sure way of decreasing your SC chances.

This has been proven fact by the Hockey gods since 1967

The same might be true for 16, 34 and 88. They just can't do it being the alphas. Like Phil they need a Crosby and Malkin leading. Let's see if they step up in year 9.

 

[Arzak]

Stop being pedantic, he hit 99 two years ago and last year was on pace over 82 games for 103 points. 97 points in 72 games 3 years ago. 67 points in 55 games the year before, He's a 100 point guy all day.

You are wrong about 3 points in 7 games for an 11 mil cap hit, players are not paid their salary in the playoffs, they split a playoff pool.

Elite point pacer. 85 points in 69 games =101.01 points, so pacing just about right to miss it again.


Why it's always Mitch almost got 100 points? Look at his pacing?

Matthews was pacing for 80 goals at one point. Do you consider Matthews 80 goal scorer ? Guess not, Mitch privilege not extended to his lineaments, never mind the rest of the league.

Mitchs pacing vs real production for the rest.


Let me help you with the math, 67 points in 55 games makes him 100 point guy in your book all day but it equals to 99.89 points over 82 games

99 point Mitch all day !

 

[Hellcat]

Elite point pacer. 85 points in 69 games =101.01 points, so pacing just about right to miss it again.


Why it's always Mitch almost got 100 points? Look at his pacing?

Matthews was pacing for 80 goals at one point. Do you consider Matthews 80 goal scorer ? Guess not, Mitch privilege not extended to his lineaments, never mind the rest of the league.

Mitchs pacing vs real production for the rest.


Let me help you with the math, 67 points in 55 games makes him 100 point guy in your book all day but it equals to 99.89 points over 82 games

99 point Mitch all day !

Conceptually a person with the ability to independently think would understand the word pace is for players who dont play 82 games. Do you understand the word pedantic? Your trolling is getting real old, perhaps try something new.

 

[Hellcat]

Sure do, his stats suffered because he couldnt produce with Mitch Marner.

Bertuzzi w/Mitch Marner:
- 243 mins, 0 g/60, .25 a/60, 0.25 p/60

Bertuzzi/Marner had one primary assist together. It was a set up that created a tap in goal for the other player. Guess who set up the tap in? Bertuzzi threaded the needle for Marner to tap the puck in.

Bertuzzi with other players:
Tavares: 1:43 p/60
Nylander: 2.16 p/60
Matthews: 2.23 p/60
Domi: 3.1 p/60

Bertuzzi lines with Marner on them vs not:

Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander 2.64 g/60
Bertuzzi Matthews Marner 1.3 g/60
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander 2.64 g/60
Bertuzzi Tavares Marner 1.99 g/60
Bertuzzi Matthews Domi 6.51 g/60

LOL ... there is truly no help for you. How many games played?

 

[Hellcat]

Deep bruise? I thought high ankle sprain. Gilmour played with his foot frozen.

If Mitch can't get through the first round with a deep bruise, no way he makes it through another three rounds.

This has been discussed ad nauseum, he had a high ankle sprain. Shifty players like Marner need their base to use their edges. I have no insight into Mitch's injury aside from I had an ankle sprain, you can generally walk on it without pain 2 to 3 weeks later but you don't have full mobility and the structure is weak, there is no way he was 100% in the Boston series, meaning you can easily roll it again as your stability is not 100%.

The post you make when you’ve been caught not making sense and instead of acknowledging it you try to make sense of what you were wrong about.

Yup he's been flailing in the kiddie pool for a few weeks now.

 

[HolyCrap]

Absolutely we should be wanting to celebrate this coming season but 8 years of evidence says we probably won’t be. I have seen nothing that indicates this core can get it done. We keep fiddling around with the supporting players to make no difference

You can tell this to the Marner jock junkies till you’re blue in the face but they won’t understand.

 

[francis246]

The post you make when you’ve been caught not making sense and instead of acknowledging it you try to make sense of what you were wrong about.

100%

 

[Racer88]

Another 8 years anyway for Marner,You are patient. A rare quality around here

lol. Well,played…….but I was hoping for 1 more year

 

[57 Years No Cup]

I agree. This is my problem with the three. They refused to take a discount so they could be surrounded by a better supporting cast and then they wilt in the playoffs whenever it gets difficult. This is why I have had enough of running them back. It will never work.

Instead of running it back, this team needs a blockbuster trade like the Jays, Raptors and Panthers made to get them over the hump.

Well, to be fair, it would have been hard to feed their children in this economy...

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So what?

 

[Racer88]

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It pays to play with Matthews

 

[Confucius]

Deep bruise? I thought high ankle sprain. Gilmour played with his foot frozen.

If Mitch can't get through the first round with a deep bruise, no way he makes it through another three rounds.

I see, Dr.

A google search….
Most bone bruises slowly heal over 1 to 2 months. A larger bone bruise may take longer to heal. You may not be able to return to sports activities for weeks or months. If your symptoms don't go away, your healthcare provider may give you an MRI.

Bone Bruise - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center

www.urmc.rochester.edu

 

[notDatsyuk]

1. Bad or no luck
2. Hot goalie
3. Biased referees
4. Keefe/Babs
5. Different rules in playoffs
6. Injuries to key player(s)
7. COVID
8. Taxes (LOL)
9. Bullied by Tkachuk, Bennett, Marchand, Debrusk and Chariot
10. Playoff format
11. Cap circumvention
12. goal posts kept getting in the way -LeafSteel
13. defense collapse in front of their goalie

5, 6, and 9 are valid to an extent.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Uhhhh ok now do playoffs

I don’t really see how posting this adds anything to the discussion..

It shows three players (not including McDavid) that we would be better off with.

 

[Antropovsky]

Dubas and Hunter botched one of the greatest draft classes of all time.

Trading down on the pick that ultimately landed Konecny was bad enough. But then passing over Sebastion Aho just adds insult to injury. The Leafs ended up with Dermott, Bracco, and Dzierkals instead.

Thank god they drafted Marner instead of Hanifin or this would have been one of the biggest whiffs in Leafs history.

Im surprised they didnt trade down until they had every pick in the 6th and 7th round. Obviously Hunter thought much too highly of his scouting ability.