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With guys like Turcotte, Kupari, JAD, and others. Will LA resign Blake Lizotte?

Kopi 2 more years
Danault a half a decade
Byfield the future

Anything can happen with injuries.
Trades happen.

Lizotte has had a great year and has been a catalyst for the team. With all the center prospects coming in, does he get resigned? Can he be moved to the wing?

Will LA play Turcotte in that 4C center role? Whose wing spot does he take if not?
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The dude's attitude is infectious, I think they have to sign him, and If i HAD to choose between him and JAD it would be Lizotte...though I'm hopeful both are part of next year's 4th line.

LA is a little eccentric when it comes to development but I don't see them playing Turc on anything under the 3rd line.
 
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If they do, it's time to start trading the likes of JAD. There are only so many spots, and the Kings are clearly trying to compete now with Kopitar and Danault taking up two important positions for the next few years. If Lizotte comes back, that's 3 of the 4 C spots, with 100 C prospects. Can't put them all on the wing either.
 
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The Kings should try to re-sign him for depth. That's the effort and work ethic you want prospects to learn from.

Plus, a few center prospects are being shifted to wing. It's the wingers that will need to be evaluated more carefully. All these contracts expire after this season:
Brown (UFA)
Athanasiou (UFA)
Kempe (RFA)
Lemieux (RFA)
Grundstrom (RFA)
Andersson (RFA)
 
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Dykstra said:
They should. I see Turcotte, Vilardi, Kupari and JAD moving to the wings or being included in a package for a bigger piece. Lizotte is the perfect 4C.
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The more I think about it the more I see them breaking Turcotte in on the W and moving him to C later. Like Moore in a way, heavy utility guy. Not evaluating whether that's good or bad just that they literally do not have a spot for him at C.


King'sPawn said:
The Kings should try to re-sign him for depth. That's the effort and work ethic you want prospects to learn from.

Plus, a few center prospects are being shifted to wing. It's the wingers that will need to be evaluated more carefully. All these contracts expire after this season:
Brown (UFA)
Athanasiou (UFA)
Kempe (RFA)
Lemieux (RFA)
Grundstrom (RFA)
Andersson (RFA)
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What I want to happen--Brown retire, AA gone, Kempe sign, Lemieux sign, Grundstrom sign, Andersson AHL/tweener.
What will happen--Brown/AA one year extensions, Kempe sign, Lemieux sign, Grundstrom gone to score 20-20 elsewhere, Andersson to Seattle
 
Bring back: Kempe, Lizotte, JAD
Consideration: Grundstrom and Lemieux
Walk: Brown, Athanasiou, Andersson, Tkachev, Frk
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
The dude's attitude is infectious, I think they have to sign him, and If i HAD to choose between him and JAD it would be Lizotte...though I'm hopeful both are part of next year's 4th line.

LA is a little eccentric when it comes to development but I don't see them playing Turc on anything under the 3rd line.
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Turcotte needs another year in Ontario maybe 2! JAD makes the Kings or gets dealt along with many others. Unfortunately his value is not what it should be...ditto for Vilardi
 
NikF said:
Bring back: Kempe, Lizotte, JAD
Consideration: Grundstrom and Lemieux
Walk: Brown, Athanasiou, Andersson, Tkachev, Frk
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I like Andersson he can play anywhere and like AA's speed when he's not injured. Lemieux and Lizotte can be trade bait to get Chychrun
 
I just wonder if Lizotte's play this year is sustainable or if it's a contract-year-aberration.

I guess it won't matter because he'll be cheap regardless, so there's very little risk in signing him.

He's been great most of this season, although I thought his recent stretch of games wasn't very good.
 
It's pretty much impossible not to re-sign him. He, along with Lemieux and Danault, are the soul and heart of the current team. He has overcome all adversity and while he still gets ragdolled every game, he has turned into a mascot of energy and compete. He is this team's Rudy, and to kick him off, while he is performing, would be a devastating blow to morale.
 
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Dykstra said:
They should. I see Turcotte, Vilardi, Kupari and JAD moving to the wings or being included in a package for a bigger piece. Lizotte is the perfect 4C.
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This is where I get concerned. Even if these guys all move to wing. There are only so many wing slots open there too.

Iaffalo Kopi Kempe
Moore Danault RV
**** Byfield ****
Lemieux Lizotte Kaliyev
****

I’d like a 3rd line of Turcotte/Byfield/Vilardi

That still leaves Kaliyev on the fourth tho. Obviously lines can be played with. Specifically Iaffalo and Moore who I think can play anywhere.

Still need spots for:
JAD
Kupari
Fagemo
Madden?!?
Grundstrom
Andersson
Thomas

You could keep a few in the AHL still but that is a long cook.

Don’t bring back Brown/AA
 
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King'sPawn said:
The Kings should try to re-sign him for depth. That's the effort and work ethic you want prospects to learn from.

Plus, a few center prospects are being shifted to wing. It's the wingers that will need to be evaluated more carefully. All these contracts expire after this season:
Brown (UFA)
Athanasiou (UFA)
Kempe (RFA)
Lemieux (RFA)
Grundstrom (RFA)
Andersson (RFA)
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I believe only 2 players from this list must be resigned:
Kempe (RFA)
Lemieux (RFA)
 
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he's probably the toughest one of the lot for me, i don't know if he really fits in the plans going forward but he's also a pretty solid 4th line stopgap for a year or two. gives stability for converting some of these centers to wingers if that's necessary, maybe until helenius is theoretically ready to come in for the 4th line

i'd say he's the current UFA/RFA i'd be the most likely to re-sign if one was necessary, kempe aside because he's a given. i'm probably more comfortable bringing in our AHL kids as wingers than i am trying to slot one of them in at center for the big club
 
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tny760 said:
he's probably the toughest one of the lot for me, i don't know if he really fits in the plans going forward but he's also a pretty solid 4th line stopgap for a year or two. gives stability for converting some of these centers to wingers if that's necessary, maybe until helenius is theoretically ready to come in for the 4th line

i'd say he's the current UFA/RFA i'd be the most likely to re-sign if one was necessary, kempe aside because he's a given. i'm probably more comfortable bringing in our AHL kids as wingers than i am trying to slot one of them in at center for the big club
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I still think Fagemo has potential to be a productive natural winger.

That next wave of:
Helenius
Chromiak
Simontaival
Pinielli
Better Laf
Lee
Jamson

should be heading to Ontario soon too.
 
LAKings88 said:
I still think Fagemo has potential to be a productive natural winger.

That next wave of:
Helenius
Chromiak
Simontaival
Pinielli
Better Laf
Lee
Jamson

should be heading to Ontario soon too.
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yeah it's tough, i know it's been a problem all along but there's an awful lot of chefs in the kitchen right now and it's really starting to come to a head

seems like kupari/fagemo are probably in for a full AHL season and that makes JAD the crux of the lizotte conversation. if they're confident in JAD, might have to let lizotte walk, bump kaliyev up, do you even bother keeping lemieux then? theoretically turc/vilardi are givens for 2 of those winger slots on 3 or 4?

iafallo/kopitar/kempe
moore/danault/arvidsson
vilardi/QB/kaliyev
turcotte/JAD/?

right? who do you have to fill there realistically? fagemo? maybe whoever's hottest out of camp?
 
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Don't forget he's on pace for 12 goals and 28 points from the 4th line...basically the same production that was so endearing before to go with all his other qualities.

I'm not convinced JAD is even an upgrade. If he cracks the roster it shouldn't be at the expense of Lizotte. JAD can be a bottom six swiss army knife with some upside and that's fine.

Kaliyev goes up, that's the plan as per Rob Blake.

But I agree the clock is ticking on some of Blake's self-inflicted tough decisions here that may find him losing value on trades.
 
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This time last year it was a solid no but you have to sign him now. Best case scenario JAD forces him into role as a very effective 13th forward, because you know that he’d give you his best no matter how much he plays.
 
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kinghock said:
I believe only 2 players from this list must be resigned:
Kempe (RFA)
Lemieux (RFA)
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This is an expanded list, and the more likely scenario (Kings RFA's listed)

I think everyone of these players will be qualified and will get contracts if they don't outright sign an extension prior to the qualification deadline.

Kempe
Lemieux
Lizotte
Grundstrom
Durzi
Anderson
Vilardi
Anderson-Dolan
Moverare

Probable, but not a sure thing, maybe a one year deal

Villalta
Strand
Andersson

Possible, but treading water

Phillips (only 22)
Sodergran (only 22)

Not likely

Tkachev
Burke

And of course some of these guys could be moved in minor trades or packaged in a bigger deal in the off season.
 
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regulate said:
This is an expanded list, and the more likely scenario (Kings RFA's listed)

I think everyone of these players will be qualified and will get contracts if they don't outright sign an extension prior to the qualification deadline.

Kempe
Lemieux
Lizotte
Grundstrom
Durzi
Anderson
Vilardi
Anderson-Dolan
Moverare

Probable, but not a sure thing, maybe a one year deal

Villalta
Strand
Andersson

Possible, but treading water

Phillips (only 22)
Sodergran (only 22)

Not likely

Tkachev
Burke

And of course some of these guys could be moved in minor trades or packaged in a bigger deal in the off season.
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I believe Kings need to decrease number of contracts. They are close to limit (50)
Should be kept:
Kempe
Lemieux
Lizotte
Durzi
Vilardi
Anderson-Dolan
Moverare

Should be traded for draft picks or for reclamation projects
Anderson
Villalta
Strand
Andersson
Grundstrom




Should not be qualified

Phillips
Tkachev
Burke
Sodergram
 
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kinghock said:
I believe Kings need to decrease number of contracts. They are close to limit (50)
Should be kept:
Kempe
Lemieux
Lizotte
Durzi
Vilardi
Anderson-Dolan
Moverare

Should be traded for draft picks or for reclamation projects
Anderson
Villalta
Strand
Andersson
Grundstrom




Should not be qualified

Phillips
Tkachev
Burke
Sodergram
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Yeah, Mikey Anderson isn’t getting moved for either of those options..
Add Strand and Mikey to your keep list and that’s about right..
Tonka is still 50/50 as he’s a good depth forward
 
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