News Article: Do the Rangers have a culture problem? An exclusive look at what's bubbling at MSG

Jack Hanson

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Its dawning on me that last year, after losing to Fla in the conference finals, instead of saying good job guys lets build on it, the very 1st thing they did was shit can Goodrow (a legit playoffs star) and publicly humiliate Trouba. This whole thing poisoned the well. They could have gone about attempting to rebuild the team in so much more of a professional manner.
 

McRanger92

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He would just oversee things, I've never agreed with the gm also having the presidents job, it makes no sense. The gm needs someone to be held accountable to.

I agree. there's no accountability and hasn't been for awhile. Starts with the owner.
 

McRanger92

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Its dawning on me that last year, after losing to Fla in the conference finals, instead of saying good job guys lets build on it, the very 1st thing they did was shit can Goodrow (a legit playoffs star) and publicly humiliate Trouba. This whole thing poisoned the well. They could have gone about attempting to rebuild the team in so much more of a professional manner.

The Rangers bought out Brad Richards after he helped lead the team to the only Stanley Cup appearance of this millennium. Hank got bought out during Covid lockdowns. The list goes on. Why are mercenaries like Goodrow and Trouba owed special treatment? Trouba was the Rangers worst player in both the 22 & 24 playoff runs. Goodrow had a 4 goal season before a hot playoff. They were overpaid and underperforming. Changes needed to be made.

People clamoring for Messier and Lundqvist tells me all I need to know.

Who would you suggest?
 

Raspewtin

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Its dawning on me that last year, after losing to Fla in the conference finals, instead of saying good job guys lets build on it, the very 1st thing they did was shit can Goodrow (a legit playoffs star) and publicly humiliate Trouba. This whole thing poisoned the well. They could have gone about attempting to rebuild the team in so much more of a professional manner.
maybe Trouba shouldn't have been dogshit most of his contract then OR softblock a trade that he had no right to.

maybe Goodrow should've had one regular season worth a f*** at his insane salary.

cry me a river.
 

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The Rangers bought out Brad Richards after he helped lead the team to the only Stanley Cup appearance of this millennium. Hank got bought out during Covid lockdowns. The list goes on. Why are mercenaries like Goodrow and Trouba owed special treatment? Trouba was the Rangers worst player in both the 22 & 24 playoff runs. Goodrow had a 4 goal season before a hot playoff. They were overpaid and underperforming. Changes needed to be made.



Who would you suggest?
I guess 6 goals in the playoffs doesn't count? You can go about improving the team, they both had to go, without nuking the room and being a complete prick and making the team worse in the process. GMs do it all the time. Good ones anyway.
 

Jack Hanson

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maybe Trouba shouldn't have been dogshit most of his contract then OR softblock a trade that he had no right to.

maybe Goodrow should've had one regular season worth a f*** at his insane salary.

cry me a river.


Changes did need to happen but still they made it to the conference finals and then just did all the dirty laundry in front of the whole league. It was just in bad taste and completely lacked any class at all. It messed up their fragile egos. It just could have been handled so much better.
 

Raspewtin

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I guess 6 goals in the playoffs doesn't count? You can go about improving the team, they both had to go, without nuking the room and being a complete prick and making the team worse in the process. GMs do it all the time. Good ones anyway.
good for him, his playoff run was awesome

too bad that's literally the only notch in his Rangers resume. a 40% shooting bender in 16 games

whoop de doo
 

McRanger92

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Changes did need to happen but still they made it to the conference finals and then just did all the dirty laundry in front of the whole league. It was just in bad taste and completely lacked any class at all. It messed up their fragile egos. It just could have been handled so much better.

They blew their 3rd straight 2 game series lead fwiw.

Oh, i don't know. Guys with experience? Who've spent maybe a little bit of time working in the front office. Most of these guys weren't even born when Messier was here, lol.

Drury had lots of experience.
 
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Pawnee Rangers

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It's a weak room then. Florida set off a nuke after they won the President's Trophy and their team didnt sulk.
You have no idea what that room is like. It's comical you've listened to one podcast by some dude and have determined everyone in there is crying in their stalls holding on to their stuffed teddy bears.
 
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Shesterkybomb

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Yeah those arent good choices.

I actually think Vally could be a decent front office management. Not that i am advocating for it. But out of former players he seems like he could be successful.
Why isn't a 5 time stanley cup champion and a guy who was considered one of the best leaders in hockey the right guy to watch over the day to day operations of an nhl hockey team as a president? Not asking him to coach, gm or any of that, just to make sure the team and gm are working together for the same goals and to be a buffer between owner and gm.
 

McRanger92

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You have no idea what that room is like. It's comical you've listened to one podcast by some dude and have determined everyone in there is crying in their stalls holding on to their stuffed teddy bears.

The beatings will continue until morale improves. Maybe they can win a game before we start letting the players off the hook.
 

Charlie Conway

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I'm kind of in the camp of "Well, let's see how bad this can get now."

Some wholesale changes in the organization/policy that players didn't like.

Some of it makes sense (i.e. keeping players and staff separate to avoid any conflicts of interest/inappropriate relationships based on what we've seen affect other players in the league) and some of it doesn't (keeping the social media/PR team away).

Hard to have that both ways. There's the risk of inappropriate behaviors and then the siloing of different departments that erodes at the "culture."

I think everyone sucks in the situation and there's shared responsibility. The organization is trying to do what's best for business but, working with people, there's going to be consequences of treating people like assets and focusing on data.

At the same time, there's a lack of professionalism from the players, who seem to be forgetting the fact that they are hockey players who are highly paid and need to show results on the ice.
 

Mike in Houston

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The Rangers bought out Brad Richards after he helped lead the team to the only Stanley Cup appearance of this millennium. Hank got bought out during Covid lockdowns. The list goes on. Why are mercenaries like Goodrow and Trouba owed special treatment? Trouba was the Rangers worst player in both the 22 & 24 playoff runs. Goodrow had a 4 goal season before a hot playoff. They were overpaid and underperforming. Changes needed to be made.



Who would you suggest?

It's not what you do, it's how you do it. Hank being bought out was discussed between him and management before it took place. It didn't come as a surprise or shock. And he deserved as much because of what he meant to the organization.

The Goodrow stuff is a lesson in how not to do things in my opinion. I believe Drury took the wrong approach there.

The Trouba stuff I blame on Trouba. He had every right to do what he did in the summer. But he crossed the boss by doing so.

Regarding Brad Richards many thought he was going to be amnestied the previous offseason after Torts scratched him against Boston. He had a bit of a resurgence in 2013-2014 but he had been demoted either by or during the Final. Everyone knew the buyout was coming.
 

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