Do Avs still trade Rantanen if they know he ends up in Dallas?

[hockeydog23]

Id believe the sleeper agent theory if he didnt already help win a Cup. Bring on #2 for this core. Muahhhahaha

Keep the cocaine away please.

Just that minor detail from 2022… theory debunked, I guess the Avs just simply pulled off an epic reclamation project.

 

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Colorado could've easily avoided this outcome if the GM wasn't being shady trading him off without any notice, stifling any attempts from Carolina to come to terms with an extension before making the deal. If they do that, Rantanen likely gets them much more from another team or at least Carolina.

But the original trade is working well for Colorado, so their GM doesn't give a shit, lol.

This is why, in any profession, you always gotta put yourself first. f*** all the emotional manipulation of "we're like a family" or "you gotta put the team first", the businessmen are gonna run their business and you are just a number amongst numbers.

 

[tucker3434]

Colorado could've easily avoided this outcome if the GM wasn't being shady trading him off without any notice, stifling any attempts from Carolina to come to terms with an extension before making the deal. If they do that, Rantanen likely gets them much more from another team or at least Carolina.

But the original trade is working well for Colorado, so their GM doesn't give a shit, lol.

This is why, in any profession, you always gotta put yourself first. f*** all the emotional manipulation of "we're like a family" or "you gotta put the team first", the businessmen are gonna run their business and you are just a number amongst numbers.

Rantanen played hardball in negotiations and it got him traded. There's there nothing at all shady about that. And if we'd allowed Carolina to negotiate with Rantanen, we wouldn't have even gotten Necas. So... I feel like CMac did fine here.

 

[kvladimir]

Hard to say, but all I can say right now is that this year is a dream scenario for haters of the current playoff format, because it very much looks like some combo of the following is guaranteed to happen:

1. DAL vs COL in the 1st round, despite both being top 8 league-wide and top 4 teams in the West (let's say) and loaded up at the TDL for long runs, all just because they are in the same division as the #1/2 team

2. VGK's reward for most likely winning the Pacific is facing COL in round 1, while EDM gets a lesser team from their own division (LAK).

The only way 1 of these 2 scenarios doesn't happen is if DAL or VGK somehow overtake WPG, when the gap is currently 8 / 10 points (though with 2 games in hand)...

 

[Turbonium]

One of the funniest things I think I've read on this site

You must not read much here then.

 

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Rantanen played hardball in negotiations and it got him traded. There's there nothing at all shady about that. And if we'd allowed Carolina to negotiate with Rantanen, we wouldn't have even gotten Necas. So... I feel like CMac did fine here.

I think it all worked out fine for Colorado, but why would Necas have been off the table in that scenario? I'd expect the Avs would've been able to extract much more from Carolina if they had an extension guaranteed.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I think it all worked out fine for Colorado, but why would Necas have been off the table in that scenario? I'd expect the Avs would've been able to extract much more from Carolina if they had an extension guaranteed.

Because obviously Rantanen wasn't actually going to sign a contract with Carolina..... and they would have realized that.

 

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Because obviously Rantanen wasn't actually going to sign a contract with Carolina..... and they would have realized that.

Ah, gotcha. Let Carolina take the gamble as opposed to Colorado gambling by letting them discuss an extension beforehand and risk the trade altogether.

Well, I'm glad it worked out the way it did for both of our teams then, lol.

 

[Great Panda 2]

I think they do.

Necas still has an extra year on his contract.

Colorado will just have to re sign Nelson or get a 2C in the offseason to be a contender again.

They are set up well for now and for next year.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

I don’t think Rantanen signs this deal with Colorado if he didn’t have 6 pts in 13 games with Carolina first.

Small sample size, but still a scare of how his value could go down.

 

[Reality Czech]

That'll be interesting. On the one hand dude was instrumental in bringing us a cup.

On the other hand, he dicked around with us on a contract Extension all year just to sign with a big rival for basically the same money we offered him?

I would think most fans would care more about the first part over the 2nd part. But some fans for sure will probably boo him. I know I would.


I actually think even more so that the Avs players will take this more personally. Mack, Cale, Landy... I bet they make a point to finish every check as hard as they can on Mikko moving forward.

I thought I read there weren't even many negotiations between Rantanen and the Avs before they betrayed him, I mean traded him.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I thought I read there weren't even many negotiations between Rantanen and the Avs before they betrayed him, I mean traded him.

 

[Reality Czech]

Rantanen isn't that soft, is he? Did they have extensive negotiations? I thought the Avs just decided to go in a different direction rather than paying what he likely would ask for.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Rantanen isn't that soft, is he? Did they have extensive negotiations? I thought the Avs just decided to go in a different direction rather than paying what he likely would ask for.

IDK all I know is it sounds like they hurt Rantanen's feelings real bad. And by extension, somehow, yours.

 

[Divine]

As of right now Dallas (Rantanen) and the Avs play each other in the first round. I'm sure lots of people are hoping it happens.

Avs can't be happy about trading a player to the other conference only for them to end up with their first round opponent.

 

[Jayevs]

I know it doesn’t mean much but I remember Hintz and Rantanen having AWFUL chemistry in the WJC

 

[Reality Czech]

IDK all I know is it sounds like they hurt Rantanen's feelings real bad. And by extension, somehow, yours.

I don't care as much as you think. But I will be rooting for Dallas against the Lanche

 

[AlysonChainz]

Dallas' and Colorado's rivalry just intensified even more. Im sure the Avs fans will boo Rantanen mercifully.

He helped win them a cup and was very beloved in Colorado. It's is an odd mix of emotions, but he will be cheered during his tribute video. After that..who knows.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Dallas thinks they’re getting MacKinnon version of Rantanen, when in reality they’re getting the Aho version, possibly a worse version. Dallas’ best player might not be ready for playoffs and they may have just blew up their salary structure. He will help on the power play, for sure tho.

It's funny how pre-trade discussions of Rantanen's value had Avs fans telling us all how great he was when not playing with McKinnon and how elite he was in his own right.

Now for some reason he is a product of McKinnon and Makar...what changed?

 

[John Mandalorian]

If Avs and Stars face each other in the playoffs, it's going to make for an interesting storyline. \

And I hope Avs and Canes fans don't boo Rantanen. They should be giving him a standing ovation with a nice video tribute.

Stop finger wagging other fanbases. It’s not your place to do that.

 

[John Mandalorian]

It's funny how pre-trade discussions of Rantanen's value had Avs fans telling us all how great he was when not playing with McKinnon and how elite he was in his own right.

Now for some reason he is a product of McKinnon and Makar...what changed?

Says the guy who can’t even spell MacKinnon.

 

[TatteredTornNFrayed]

If Avs and Stars face each other in the playoffs, it's going to make for an interesting storyline. \

And I hope Avs and Canes fans don't boo Rantanen. They should be giving him a standing ovation with a nice video tribute.

There will of course be a tribute for Rantanen Sunday and loud cheers, and probably some tears in the stands. They did a tribute for Georgiev, so.

 

[benfranklin]

Rantanen isn't that soft, is he? Did they have extensive negotiations? I thought the Avs just decided to go in a different direction rather than paying what he likely would ask for.

The rumor is they offered 8*$12M. He or his agent declined and wanted more so they shipped him out before he knew what hit him. Now this feel slike a spite move to go a rival especially if CAR did offer $13.5M, but I may be making that part up.

 

[benfranklin]

There will of course be a tribute for Rantanen Sunday and loud cheers, and probably some tears in the stands. They did a tribute for Georgiev, so.

10000% a tribute and no way Rantanen gets near Duchene boos, but he wouldve had cheers all night long with a Hurricane sweater. Now with a Stars sweater, this will turn into boos quickly.

 

[flyfysher]

It's funny how pre-trade discussions of Rantanen's value had Avs fans telling us all how great he was when not playing with McKinnon and how elite he was in his own right.

Now for some reason he is a product of McKinnon and Makar...what changed?

He stopped moving his feet and became a passenger. We’ll have a better idea of what kind a player he is when he shows up to training camp next year. In shape or not.