Do all 3 Hughes brothers go 1st overall in their respective re-drafts?

[Svencouver]

Quinn is like, the 5th or 6th best player in the league; and that's through the smokescreen of forward bias making it hard to compare him with the Centers ahead of him. He goes first overall, come on now.

Answer to this poll question is yes, btw

 

[Icebreakers]

Jack Yes
Quinn no
Luke no

Who are you taking ahead of Quinn? There isnt even anyone remotely close.

 

[I Just Like]

I’ll say yes, but Luke’s draft year needs another 1-2 years before we can truly answer. Right now Kent Johnson and Dylan Guenther are making arguments, and Wyatt Johnston is having a bit of a down year but could easily bounce right back. Luke looks stellar this year. But it’s difficult to call it. Quinn and Jack? Absolutely.

 

[rypper]

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

There isn’t a player I would trade Luke for in his draft year, nor do I think it’s all that close. He is a number 1 defensmen at the age of 21 and has arguably been one of the top 3 impactful defensmen over the last month, mainly due to elite defense without freebie PP1 points.

 

[olli]

Jack and Quinn for sure but it’s too early to say for Luke. Right now it would be between Luke, Johnston and Guenther but there’s other guys that could pass them too.

 

[logan5]

Similar to how Makar was leading the league in scoring for a bit, and making comparisons to Orr…

 

[Javaman]

2018: I like Dahlin a lot and I think he could be the best dman in the league if he wasn't in Buffalo. Hard to choose between him and Hughes. I think Dahlin still goes #1 but barely.

2019: Seider is an animal and at his best is the most dominant player on the ice but I think it's still gotta be Jack at #1.

2021: My pre-draft was Johnson at 1 and Luke at 2 and I still feel perfectly comfortable with that. That 2021 crop looks great.

It really isn't hard. One has a Norris and is on track for another. The other isn't.

Hell, I'd place odds that Quinn wins a Hart before Dahlin wins a Norris. This isn't a knock on Dahlin, but rather a commentary on an amazing class of young d-men.

 

[M2Beezy]

Jack and Luke to first, but Quinn probably a hair outside the top 5 from his draft year...

 

[vtdevils2k]

Jack and Luke to first, but Quinn probably a hair outside the top 5 from his draft year...

Please list those ahead of him in a redraft...curious to see who you list ahead of him....

If I'm reading this correctly, there are 5 others you would take ahead of Quinn? Please list who.

 

[mattydamon]

Please list those ahead of him in a redraft...curious to see who you list ahead of him....

If I'm reading this correctly, there are 5 others you would take ahead of Quinn? Please list who.

I wouldn't take this poster seriously, think he is just stirring the pot. In another thread he listed his top Dmen in the league and Hughes wasn't even included there:

As an objective and neutral observer:

Fox
Heiskanen
Werenski
Hedman
Morrissey
Carlson
Dahlin
Seider
Chabot
Hronek

HM: Slavin, Josi, Sanderson, McAvoy, Hamilton

 

[Realgud]

It really isn't hard. One has a Norris and is on track for another. The other isn't.

Hell, I'd place odds that Quinn wins a Hart before Dahlin wins a Norris. This isn't a knock on Dahlin, but rather a commentary on an amazing class of young d-men.

I know, and I love Quinn. But a draft is about "projection" and I "project" that Dahlin would be in the discussion for best defenseman in the league if he wasn't in Buffalo. He came back, got 4 assists and Buffalo finally won a game after 13 losses. I think if the draft was held tomorrow and you had these 24 years old defensemen, I think there's a good chance Dahlin still goes first, but it would very obviously be hard to pass on Quinn. I know that's not a popular opinion but to me they are 1 and 2 in the league and I think with time Dahlin will prove that he is at that level. There is something very wrong in Buffalo and every player that gets traded out plays vastly better. Not only that, but among these players, Dahlin is the one who has looked the best by far (imo) in that situation, so if he'd get out... I think we are in for a giant surprise.

Having said that I also fully support the opinion that all 3 Hughes could go 1st. Taking any of the Hughes at #1 is as safe of a bet as you could get... I'm just being a little contradictory to bring a little discussion and make it more fun

 

[Regal]

I wouldn't take this poster seriously, think he is just stirring the pot. In another thread he listed his top Dmen in the league and Hughes wasn't even included there:

Not really stirring the pot. It’s just M2B’s schtick. There was no Makar on that list either.

 

[sabremike]

I know, and I love Quinn. But a draft is about "projection" and I "project" that Dahlin would be in the discussion for best defenseman in the league if he wasn't in Buffalo. He came back, got 4 assists and Buffalo finally won a game after 13 losses. I think if the draft was held tomorrow and you had these 24 years old defensemen, I think there's a good chance Dahlin still goes first, but it would very obviously be hard to pass on Quinn. I know that's not a popular opinion but to me they are 1 and 2 in the league and I think with time Dahlin will prove that he is at that level. There is something very wrong in Buffalo and every player that gets traded out plays vastly better. Not only that, but among these players, Dahlin is the one who has looked the best by far (imo) in that situation, so if he'd get out... I think we are in for a giant surprise.

Having said that I also fully support the opinion that all 3 Hughes could go 1st. Taking any of the Hughes at #1 is as safe of a bet as you could get... I'm just being a little contradictory to bring a little discussion and make it more fun

A reminder: The Sabres literally put up a video entitled "This Is How We Win" that was about fixing the roof of their shitty dilapidated arena.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Hughes is 14gf 10ga +4 at 5v5
Edvinsson is 18gf 17ga +1 at 5v5

Edvinsson's ES numbers are boosted by his team scoring 6 empty net goals with him on the ice lol.

Just admit you're wrong and move on.

So edvidsson is trusted more when the goalie is pulled is what you're saying.

 

[rypper]

In a redraft, the only GMs picking Dahlin over Hughes are the kind the we all look at in the vein of Jim Benning, Mike Milbury, Pierre Dorion etc.

 

[Albatros]

Benning was the one that drafted Hughes to start with.

 

[rypper]

Benning was the one that drafted Hughes to start with.

True, but John Weisbrod is like bffs with Jim Hughes. And couldn't contain himself from running up to the podium for the pick.

 

[sabremike]

Benning was the one that drafted Hughes to start with.

 

[Pavels Dog]

There isn’t a player I would trade Luke for in his draft year, nor do I think it’s all that close. He is a number 1 defensmen at the age of 21 and has arguably been one of the top 3 impactful defensmen over the last month, mainly due to elite defense without freebie PP1 points.

He's 5th in TOI/GP on the Devils blueline and 117th in the league.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

He's 5th in TOI/GP on the Devils blueline and 117th in the league.

OK, let me rephrase this. He is the best defenceman on New Jersey and his minutes will continue to trend that way.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Him and Pesce are number 1 pair in NJ.

 

[hawksrule]

This is a fun poll, kudos.

 

[Golden_Jet]

OK, let me rephrase this. He is the best defenceman on New Jersey and his minutes will continue to trend that way.

doesn’t kill penalties, and is 5th in toi, he’s good, but sheltered somewhat on the third pair.

 

[Hisch13r]

doesn’t kill penalties, and is 5th in toi, he’s good, but sheltered somewhat on the third pair.

It's factually the first pair.