Player Discussion: Dmitri Voronkov
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This response was the real dill.
Voronkov's training (I hope you can see Telegram, it is Dima's fan site):
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Works fine here, in fact the embed is much better than Twitter or Instagram and plays the videos straightaway on this page.
I love Telegram, use him for chat instead of Skype, Viber etc. and recommend it for you. Btw, there are many English sites too.Works fine here, in fact the embed is much better than Twitter or Instagram and plays the videos straightaway on this page.
The video his training (still with Radulov and Tarasov, but not our). There are English subtitles if you want.
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He will take the 3rd line center position and won't give it back this season.
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FWIW. A little hack that I have seen people use to get twitter links to work again
If you copy and paste the link like normal, but replace (x . Com) with (twitter. Com) it works as normal.
Serious question, did he even play as a center over in the KHL or internationally for Russia?? I don’t think he really did, yet, many people still seem under the assumption that he can come over and play center in the NHL.
Also, other than Voronkov, this never ending list of guys that have played in developmental leagues and drafted as centers and still keep that designation well after, or others randomly being passed off as adequate NHL centers, when they clearly are not, is getting ridiculous at this point.
His size and strength might be at an NHL level, but, everything I’ve seen of Voronkov’s skating shows that he will have to improve or he’ll have some issues in the NHL. Like Sillinger, his lack of agility and skating overall, may significantly hinder his ability to play center in the NHL at all.
I’m not going to question his “awareness” or how quickly his brain works during gameplay yet until I see enough of him, but, it must be mentioned that the NHL game, along with the smaller ice, makes the speed of EVERYTHING a necessity, and I don’t think some of you understand how fast of a skater, how good offensively, and overall how dominant Boone Jenner would look in the KHL.
No one else has answered you yet, including folks who follow KHL more than I do, but FWIW I was under the impression that Voronkov played 1C for Ak Bars Kazan this past season, next to Radulov.
From what I gathered it’s been about 50/50 whether he was lined up at wing or center over the last few years, maybe a little more center than wing. But he was generally next to Radulov more often than not.
I don’t have much concern about him being able to play center. I caught a few playoff games last year. He was out there game 7 of the finals taking the biggest faceoff of the season for his team with 30 seconds left. He will most likely play center here, and I believe it will be higher than the fourth line.
I’m somebody who has questioned how Voronkov’s skating and how quickly he sees or reads the game will impact what position and and how high in the lineup he will play.
Checking some videos and came along this 1 and it gives me hope as it shows quite a bit from Voronkov.
WHY did that goal happen??
Hint, nothing in the offensive zone. Perfect example of something the “advanced statistics” can’t show and a perfect example of something most of the current CBJ forwards or even “centers”, Kuraly/Sillinger/Roslovic/Laine can’t or dont do adequately.
Checking some videos and came along this 1 and it gives me hope as it shows quite a bit from Voronkov.
WHY did that goal happen??
Hint, nothing in the offensive zone. Perfect example of something the “advanced statistics” can’t show and a perfect example of something most of the current CBJ forwards or even “centers”, Kuraly/Sillinger/Roslovic/Laine can’t or dont do adequately.
You still want to see Laine go behind his own net as a winger, following a forward. He just wants to keep his job so he hasn't. As a C (as Voronkov is probably playing a C position here) he's doing the correct thing and challenging that forward and going behind the net. Winger getting lost behind the net following an opponents forward would get yelled at by a coach but praised by you apparently. If Laine plays center, then you can expect this to be his job in the defensive end. If he stays a winger, you need to understand there's tasks he's expected to do and what you're saying he should do, he's not supposed to do. Different positions have different coverage.
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You make this all about Laine. He mentioned 3 other centers, plus Laine, if he ends up center, not wingers.
Yeah, I don't have a problem asking for a C to go there in that situation, but he also named a winger (or two). His critique might be valid for actual centers (I'm sure we can find footage of Kuraly following a forward behind the net so I don't know how accurate this whole claim is). The whole point was, he's using correct positioning as a detriment when it comes to Laine. He's saying Laine should do a C coverage when playing RW. That's just not sustainable for an NHL player.
From most of the clips I've seen Voronkov has played C. And he has good chemistry with Marchenko too, so if he can play himself into the lineup he could at some point end up with him.
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They're not saying that at all. They're tying Laine in with those guys because Patrik been tried at C, has expressed an interest in continuing to work at the position, and there has been a decent bit of discussion about that possibility in here. The poster seems to not have a lot of belief, however, in that prospect, in the same way the poster doesn't support the other Cs they listed to make that kind of play.
He's made the same argument before in a different clip with Laine not following a forward behind the net while playing as a winger, so seeing it again in this context I'm pretty sure I got his original intentions correct. He's saying Laine as a winger should ignore his required positioning and run around reacting to who ever has the puck.
Laine has played 2 games as C, if there's a clip from those 2 games showing how he's neglecting his C coverage then that's a different story, then we could blame him for it. I don't remember there being one though. Just saying that "he's not going to do this as C" is not a solid argument, it's a baseless claim.
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I’m aware that many posters have fixed opinions about Laine. Nonetheless, I stand behind my interpretation of the post in question.
