OT: Discusión del Fútbol (EPL, FIFA, LIGA, USMNT, USWNT, MLS, etc) - Parte Cinco

[trick9]

Barcelona trying to steal all of Chelsea's transfer targets and trying to compete with the English clubs on the transfer market is hilarious. Bankcruptcy awaits and still they have spent over 100 million (+ salaries) on Raphinha and Robert Lewandowski and now it's reported that they are trying to match Chelsea's offer on Jules Kounde which will be over 50 million aswell.

They were also in on Erling Haaland but lost out to Man City. Also now Napoli boss Aurelio De Laurentiis said in an interview that Barcelona wanted Kalidou Koulibaly too but he said that he didn't want to sell him to them because of all he's done for Napoli so he doesn't want to sell him to a team that can't afford to pay your salary.

 

[John Price]

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Excellent news. Ian Darke is terrific. To me he is the voice of US Soccer.

 

[John Price]

Excellent news. Ian Darke is terrific. To me he is the voice of US Soccer.

Yep. Sadly he won't do us games in Qatar

 

[g00n]

Neymar to be tried over irregularities in Barcelona transfer

Neymar is due to face trial in October over alleged irregularities in his transfer to Barcelona, judicial sources said on Wednesday.

sports.yahoo.com

seems like backdoor extortion

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Neymar to be tried over irregularities in Barcelona transfer

Neymar is due to face trial in October over alleged irregularities in his transfer to Barcelona, judicial sources said on Wednesday.

sports.yahoo.com

seems like backdoor extortion

Seems like he doesn’t pay his taxes!

 

[g00n]

Seems like he doesn’t pay his taxes!

sure but this isn't about taxes it's about a contract dispute from almost 10 years ago. seems like a cash grab

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

sure but this isn't about taxes it's about a contract dispute from almost 10 years ago. seems like a cash grab

They’re saying they lied about the price they actually were paid, thus ripping off those who had bought an interest in him, also he and his family would have unpaid taxes and undeclared income right? $20 million euros if I’m reading it right….

 

[g00n]

They’re saying they lied about the price they actually were paid, thus ripping off those who had bought an interest in him, also he and his family would have unpaid taxes and undeclared income right? $20 million euros if I’m reading it right….

I think it's a combo. I skimmed it. Tax issues as well as alleged fraud in the actual money involved so his old club thinks they're owed money.

Seems weird unless there's very new information about that transaction.

 

[usiel]

Not sure how to feel about this.

Team has still been pretty terrible so far he's still not even on the side lines yet.

 

[John Price]

 

[usiel]

Looks at calendar and pencils in another loss.

 

[g00n]

Just watched a Liverpool player retrieve the ball for a throw-in deep in his own zone. As usual the first guy to touch it tosses it to a teammate along the sidelines rather than throwing the ball in play, and in doing so gains a bit of ground.

Normally a few feet is allowed for this. Or in some cases a little longer. Or the thrower creeps down the sideline slowly into a better position.

This particular exchange was easily 10-15 yds if not more.

This got me wondering why they never crack down on this practice when goals are disallowed based on inches of offside "advantage".

A forced throw in during a high press situation that's very close to the area is much more dangerous than one 20yds up field. If forced to make that throw so close to the goal a single flick or error can create a great scoring chance, and reaction time by the keeper is reduced significantly.

Seems like more of an advantage than having a tiny bit of your shoulder ahead of a play that's 50yds and 3 passes from the goal.

Weird.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Just watched a Liverpool player retrieve the ball for a throw-in deep in his own zone. As usual the first guy to touch it tosses it to a teammate along the sidelines rather than throwing the ball in play, and in doing so gains a bit of ground.

Normally a few feet is allowed for this. Or in some cases a little longer. Or the thrower creeps down the sideline slowly into a better position.

This particular exchange was easily 10-15 yds if not more.

This got me wondering why they never crack down on this practice when goals are disallowed based on inches of offside "advantage".

A forced throw in during a high press situation that's very close to the area is much more dangerous than one 20yds up field. If forced to make that throw so close to the goal a single flick or error can create a great scoring chance, and reaction time by the keeper is reduced significantly.

Seems like more of an advantage than having a tiny bit of your shoulder ahead of a play that's 50yds and 3 passes from the goal.

Weird.

So annoying….I swear I’ve seen it tossed to 3-4 different players before, wasting time and shuffling the spot forward in the progress….

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Fun game to watch. Weird watching Liverpool without Mane.

 

[Langway]

Fun game to watch. Weird watching Liverpool without Mane.

Agreed. Fun to watch Haaland get started with City. Still off as you'd expect early on I guess but he looked the part physically at least. It kicks off another great toe-to-toe season between the two squads hopefully.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Women’s Euro Final is pretty great. Heading into ET now tied 1-1.

 

[g00n]

Women’s Euro Final is pretty great. Heading into ET now tied 1-1.

Physical contest. ENG defenders have stepped up many times to prevent goals but are running out of gas.

Some questionable officiating all game, imo. Nothing too impactful,though.

 

[John Price]

And now United score again!

 

[trick9]

So annoying….I swear I’ve seen it tossed to 3-4 different players before, wasting time and shuffling the spot forward in the progress….

I've never understood the rules in pro soccer in regards to throw-ins. I played at a junior level and when there is a throw-in the ref gives you a warning for time-wasting after like ~7-10 seconds.

But in pro soccer if you have a long-throw specialist playing as your left-back and you get a throw-in deep in the right-side, it's perfectly fine to wait for that LB to come take the throw-in and wait 2 minutes to do so. People used to complain about this more when Stoke was still in the Premier League because they did it all the time and refs didn't say anything about time-wasting even though they were doing it while winning the match so it took even longer.

 

[ChaosLord]

Women’s Euro Final is pretty great. Heading into ET now tied 1-1.

When did woman;s soccer become a "thing"? Back in the 1980s and 1990s, no one gave a damn about women's soccer. And now all of sudden its selling out Wembley stadium.

Its all about marketing. ESPN and some other major media outlets (like Yahoo for example) are fully behind women's soccer, which means it is destined to succeed. If you put ESPN and those media outlets behind "backyard bobbing for apples" it would become a world-wide phenomenon with huge ratings. Marketing is everything.

So the question is then: why does ESPN support women's soccer? Because of the USWNT. They dominate the Women's World Cup and other international events. And NOTHING sells like nationalism. The US Men's Hockey team got huge ratings when they were they good and competitive. And lets not forget the US Mens "Dream Team" Basketball team, who smashed the competition at the Olympics and were a ratings gold mine. ESPN loves nationalism.

So why am I whining about it? I dunno, I feel women's soccer somehow detracts from the men game. It cheapens the men's World Cup, which has a real history and pedigree.

But it doesn't matter what I think. So long as the US woman keep dominating, ESPN will continue to support them, which means women soccer will keep growing and growing. Ah well. Hopefully it will persuade more hotties like Alex Morgan to take up the game. Thats the only thing that makes women's soccer interesting to me, to be honest.

 

[John Price]

When did woman;s soccer become a "thing"? Back in the 1980s and 1990s, no one gave a damn about women's soccer. And now all of sudden its selling out Wembley stadium.

Its all about marketing. ESPN and some other major media outlets (like Yahoo for example) are fully behind women's soccer, which means it is destined to succeed. If you put ESPN and those media outlets behind "backyard bobbing for apples" it would become a world-wide phenomenon with huge ratings. Marketing is everything.

So the question is then: why does ESPN support women's soccer? Because of the USWNT. They dominate the Women's World Cup and other international events. And NOTHING sells like nationalism. The US Men's Hockey team got huge ratings when they were they good and competitive. And lets not forget the US Mens "Dream Team" Basketball team, who smashed the competition at the Olympics and were a ratings gold mine. ESPN loves nationalism.

So why am I whining about it? I dunno, I feel women's soccer somehow detracts from the men game. It cheapens the men's World Cup, which has a real history and pedigree.

But it doesn't matter what I think. So long as the US woman keep dominating, ESPN will continue to support them, which means women soccer will keep growing and growing. Ah well. Hopefully it will persuade more hotties like Alex Morgan to take up the game. Thats the only thing that makes women's soccer interesting to me, to be honest.

Women deserve the right to play soccer too.

Heck the female game is arguably more watchable than the diving in the men's

Also that narrative is not true. In the 90s the US won the women's world cup. Over 91k packed the rose bowl to see us beat China in a shootout.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

When did woman;s soccer become a "thing"? Back in the 1980s and 1990s, no one gave a damn about women's soccer. And now all of sudden its selling out Wembley stadium.

Its all about marketing. ESPN and some other major media outlets (like Yahoo for example) are fully behind women's soccer, which means it is destined to succeed. If you put ESPN and those media outlets behind "backyard bobbing for apples" it would become a world-wide phenomenon with huge ratings. Marketing is everything.

So the question is then: why does ESPN support women's soccer? Because of the USWNT. They dominate the Women's World Cup and other international events. And NOTHING sells like nationalism. The US Men's Hockey team got huge ratings when they were they good and competitive. And lets not forget the US Mens "Dream Team" Basketball team, who smashed the competition at the Olympics and were a ratings gold mine. ESPN loves nationalism.

So why am I whining about it? I dunno, I feel women's soccer somehow detracts from the men game. It cheapens the men's World Cup, which has a real history and pedigree.

But it doesn't matter what I think. So long as the US woman keep dominating, ESPN will continue to support them, which means women soccer will keep growing and growing. Ah well. Hopefully it will persuade more hotties like Alex Morgan to take up the game. Thats the only thing that makes women's soccer interesting to me, to be honest.

What about the women’s game distracts from the men? I don’t conflate the two at all. We have a bunch of girls on our street and they all play soccer. Soccer is the most popular sport in the US for girls and women and has been for quite some time. Close to half a million girls play high school soccer on a yearly basis.

Also, I think it’s great that they offset the schedules of the men and women. There are no competing priorities and to be honest, I’d much rather watch the women in a major tournament than pretty much any MLS game. Watching the women yesterday was a lot of fun and it was quality soccer; the first two goals were world class and there was 90,000 people cheering for their national team and the energy was high — what’s not to like? Plus, it got me excited for the start of the Premier League this weekend and the World Cup in a few months.

 

[g00n]

Popularity of women's soccer is global because it's soccer. Has jack shit to do with ESPN.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Women deserve the right to play soccer too.

Heck the female game is arguably more watchable than the diving in the men's

Also that narrative is not true. In the 90s the US won the women's world cup. Over 91k packed the rose bowl to see us beat China in a shootout.

Mmmmmm…..no….not at the top European club levels…..no knock on the women, it’s just not true. Only those historic top USA women’s International matches were arguably more watchable.

Hell I just watched the English women flop with the best of them in the Euro Final lol….they all do it.