9 mill at 8 years is really the best Nylander will get especially from a contender. If he reaches UFA and had to rely on 7 years he'd have to get 10.5 a year to make equivalent money depending on the tax rate of said team.
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He's asking for 9.5 to 10 from Toronto. Less from other teams in lower tax jurisdictions. Probably 9 or less from the Canes.
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His AAV starts with a 9 on any team including the canes after seeing what Meier got
TheKrebsCycle
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Nylander and Robertson for Pesce and Jarvis would be the neighborhood I’d expect . Nylander clearly has more value at thus point in time
Think it lands 8.8 to 9.1 per for Nylander .
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Are you really suggesting Pesce and Necas, who is 24, just scored 28G and 71 points, and is paid $3M and is an RFA after this season for Nylander, who scored 40G, 87 points and is a UFA after the season?
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This is going to be a tough thread for people to agree.
First off, offense is overvalued and defense is undervalued. In a vacuum, defenseman also hold more value to their forward counterparts. Not to mention, Nylander is a one-dimensional winger that doesn't bring much more to that table other than pure offense (which is valuable, for sure).
Asking Jarvis is absurd.
Both are pending UFAs. Nylander is the more valuable player, but Pesce plays a more important position and arguably plays a larger role in the outcome.
Just a quick look at things, I would say
Pesce
Jack Drury
for
Nylander
Is more than fair. Drury doesn't really have a home on the Canes and can provide some key depth for Toronto, and still has potential. Put up good numbers in the AHL
First off, offense is overvalued and defense is undervalued. In a vacuum, defenseman also hold more value to their forward counterparts. Not to mention, Nylander is a one-dimensional winger that doesn't bring much more to that table other than pure offense (which is valuable, for sure).
Asking Jarvis is absurd.
Both are pending UFAs. Nylander is the more valuable player, but Pesce plays a more important position and arguably plays a larger role in the outcome.
Just a quick look at things, I would say
Pesce
Jack Drury
for
Nylander
Is more than fair. Drury doesn't really have a home on the Canes and can provide some key depth for Toronto, and still has potential. Put up good numbers in the AHL
The Canes won't trade Slavin unless EK on on his way to Carolina. Pesce plus Necas or Jarvis could work.
You'd still be getting the best player in the deal and you need to free up cap space to accommodate him.
bleedgreen
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We’re not prying anything. Keep him and good luck with your cap.
If Nylander is seeking a big AAV new deal, that really puts a damper on his trade value.
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The great majority (canes fans included) seem to agree the difference in value is not far off and that the canes would throw in a 2nd or prospect like Drury to even things out.
Then you have a few leafs fans bringing up Slavin, Jarvis, Necas (that’s a new one) and Morrow.
Then you have a few leafs fans bringing up Slavin, Jarvis, Necas (that’s a new one) and Morrow.
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Pesce plus Necas is absurd.
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This has Hall for Larson written all over it. Nylander is a much better player. People don't watch the player and he gets over shadowed by bigger names
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No it isn't. Nylander is better than both of them.
Freaky Styley
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That's an interesting comparison, because even though Hall went on to win the Hart one year, every year following he's bounced around teams and been more of a complimentary player whereas Larsson has been steady and effectively. Right now Larsson holds more value to a team than Hall IMO
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Then Toronto will pay him market value to stay.
You keep ignoring contracts, age, the cap, length of control a team has over a player, etc.
We just disagree. No sense discussing further.
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Yeah and Leafs wanna win now. Trading a guy whop has that season elsewhere for meh is bad
LakeLivin
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It's posts like this that instigate ridiculous retaliatory counter offers like Pesce and Drury for Matthews or Marner. Just saying . . .
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All of this is just pure insanity. The canes won’t trade Slavin EVEN if EK is on his way to Carolina.
And the difference between Pesce and and Nylander is Necas? Dude lay down the pipe.
Apparently you don't watch Nylander. The guy scored 85 points including 40 goals without PP1 time.
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They shouldn’t trade him. If I was a leafs fan, I’d rather use him as an own rental and lose him for nothing if it gives the best chance to win.
Carolina did that with Hamilton, Trocheck and Niederreiter.
I felt the same way about Pesce in Carolina, but Orlov changed the equation.
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