Blue Jays Discussion: Dickey Wins Gold Glove.

[dredeye]

Why do I get this feeling we're going to get Saltalamacchia ?

Because he'd get a cheaper contract than most of the free agent catchers this off season. There is a chance he's the guy if the jays go big elsewhere. They'll have to save some money somewhere.

 

[calcal798]

It absolutely does. Realistically, the most he should get is something similar to the Lackey deal (5 years, $82m) from a couple winters ago as the best starter in a week free agent class. And that's assuming he's the top guy available, which I don't believe he is.

Who do you think is?

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Because he'd get a cheaper contract than most of the free agent catchers this off season. There is a chance he's the guy if the jays go big elsewhere. They'll have to save some money somewhere.

I hate to be that guy, but I'd almost rather keep Arencibia at his price tag than pay Salty, even at a discount. Chances are he'll cost about six million dollars more, while striking out just as much, and being close as mediocre defensively.

 

[calcal798]

Because he'd get a cheaper contract than most of the free agent catchers this off season. There is a chance he's the guy if the jays go big elsewhere. They'll have to save some money somewhere.

He'd be better then JPA. How is his pitch framing? I'd want to run with a Pierzynski/Ruiz and Thole combo.

With Pierzynski he'd be able to DH some games as well.

 

[topched]

I hate to be that guy, but I'd almost rather keep Arencibia at his price tag than pay Salty, even at a discount. Chances are he'll cost about six million dollars more, while striking out just as much, and being close as mediocre defensively.

Completely agree, he's not much of an upgrade of JPA

The deficiencies Salty has are lesser but the same issues we have with JP. The fact that Ross was used in the playoffs late in games should be all we need to know.

We need in this order: Defense, Gamecalling, OBP, everythjng else out of the catcher spot

Lots of guys who can give is that on much smaller deals

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Who do you think is?

IMO, Garza. If I was a national league club, it would be Garza then Nolasco. Ubaldo would be, but his velocity decline is just way too alarming.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Because he'd get a cheaper contract than most of the free agent catchers this off season. There is a chance he's the guy if the jays go big elsewhere. They'll have to save some money somewhere.

My guess is Salty gets a 3/36 type deal or 4/44. He won't come cheap.

 

[trellaine201]

My guess is Salty gets a 3/36 type deal or 4/44. He won't come cheap.

Thought he wasn't very good?? why would the world champions get rid of him and not resign him if hes so good?

 

[Eyedea]

Thought he wasn't very good?? why would the world champions get rid of him and not resign him if hes so good?

No he had a solid year actually. It was his previous two seasons with the red sox that wasn't very good (although still not bad).

 

[trellaine201]

No he had a solid year actually. It was his previous two seasons with the red sox that wasn't very good (although still not bad).

Aww okay. Why is Boston not resigning him?

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Aww okay. Why is Boston not resigning him?

Because they are a smart organization, unfortunately.

 

[trellaine201]

No he had a solid year actually. It was his previous two seasons with the red sox that wasn't very good (although still not bad).

Don't want. A close look at his stats no way hes worth $9-10M a season. Yikes. Funny how free agents tend to have good yrs when they need them. His highest average ever I believe was last year.

No thanks.

I know the Bosox were really high on him a few yrs back. It never worked out.

 

[Eyedea]

Aww okay. Why is Boston not resigning him?

He's very much like Arencibia.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

I hate to be that guy, but I'd almost rather keep Arencibia at his price tag than pay Salty, even at a discount. Chances are he'll cost about six million dollars more, while striking out just as much, and being close as mediocre defensively.

No you don't

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

No you don't

You got me. I love it.

 

[trellaine201]

I want no part of him. The idea is to upgrade not a lateral move.

Need someone much better if they go C route this winter.

 

[Woodman19]

I want no part of him. The idea is to upgrade not a lateral move.

Need someone much better if they go C route this winter.

I agree with you, if the options are JP, Salty or trade the farm for a real upgrade I would rather do option 3. I might be a bit biased since I tend to think our pitching woes are in some part to blame on JP but I really feel that catcher is a position we MUST upgrade if we are serious about contending.

 

[trellaine201]

I agree with you, if the options are JP, Salty or trade the farm for a real upgrade I would rather do option 3. I might be a bit biased since I tend to think our pitching woes are in some part to blame on JP but I really feel that catcher is a position we MUST upgrade if we are serious about contending.

Agreed! Baseballers always say YOU HAVE to be good up the middle of the diamond C/SS/2B and CF. Very key to any success imo.

 

[AddMan3001]

Where are these Bautista rumors coming from? I'm a horrible fan and I haven't been keeping up with the news/rumors since the season ended. Why are we considering trading him?

 

[Bjindaho]

Where are these Bautista rumors coming from? I'm a horrible fan and I haven't been keeping up with the news/rumors since the season ended. Why are we considering trading him?

We have been considering trading him because he is on a great deal but appears headed towards a natural decline (due to his age and injuries).

If we could turn a Bautista into a good 2B and a good outfielder, why not listen? That being said, Dom Brown is not getting a Bautista straight up

 

[Radiohead]

Where are these Bautista rumors coming from? I'm a horrible fan and I haven't been keeping up with the news/rumors since the season ended. Why are we considering trading him?

I don't know if AA is considering trading JB but inquiries have been made from other teams.

Given his injury concerns and age, it might be worthwhile to trade him while his value is high.

 

[Eyedea]

Where are these Bautista rumors coming from? I'm a horrible fan and I haven't been keeping up with the news/rumors since the season ended. Why are we considering trading him?

They're fabricated and have no legs. Just a bunch of smoke out of Philly. As for why there's the possibility of a trade, well he's getting up there in age and he can yield a potential package that could fill multiple holes on the team, albeit by creating another one (big bat in RF).

 

[Woodman19]

I don't know if AA is considering trading JB but inquiries have been made from other teams.

Given his injury concerns and age, it might be worthwhile to trade him while his value is high.

Basically this, This is the last opportunity to deal Bautista for a kings ransom.

 

[trellaine201]

They're fabricated and have no legs. Just a bunch of smoke out of Philly. As for why there's the possibility of a trade, well he's getting up there in age and he can yield a potential package that could fill multiple holes on the team, albeit by creating another one (big bat in RF).

Damn personally I feel The Mets are a better trading partner. They are looking for power.

 

[canucksfan]

Damn personally I feel The Mets are a better trading partner. They are looking for power.

JP + a top reliever for Daniel Murphy.