Confirmed with Link: Devils trade Marino and 5th to Utah for #49 and ‘25 EDM 2nd

[Devilsfan992]

Are we 100% on Pesche. Aren't we unable to talk to him yet? Only way I understand this trade.

 

[McDuffz88]

Decent return but I think it might be a mistake to move on from Marino. I think Keefe would of had him back to how he played that 1st year with us.

 

[Devils731]

Are we 100% on Pesche. Aren't we unable to talk to him yet? Only way I understand this trade.

Teams can’t talk to free agents early…yet teams often sign mega deals with guys after only 5 minutes of talking. Suggests the back channel talking is real.

 

[NJDevs26]

Teams can’t talk to free agents early…yet teams often sign mega deals with guys after only 5 minutes of talking. Suggests the back channel talking is real.

I'm still surprised Carolina isn't complaining about tampering at this point, the way the Pens did when the Sullivan rumors were heating up. Even with the wink wink stuff this is a LOT of smoke pre-July 1. They must literally not give a **** since they aren't signing him anyway.

 

[Triumph]

Are we 100% on Pesche. Aren't we unable to talk to him yet? Only way I understand this trade.

Every insider has linked Pesce to NJ for a week. It will be a massive coup if the Devils do not get him, either something will have gone really wrong or someone came in with an unanticipated offer.

 

[NJDevs26]

I do wonder if the Pesce thing goes on past two PM on Monday will there be mass panic the way there was with Dougie when it took all day to work out his deal after we were rumored on him lol

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Every insider has linked Pesce to NJ for a week. It will be a massive coup if the Devils do not get him, either something will have gone really wrong or someone came in with an unanticipated offer.

Depending if NYR can offload Trouba them coming in last second would be classic them but I think if they get him off the books, it'll go to Lindgren ASAP and a top 6 forward. But I agree, I can't see why Fitz would do this if he didn't know Pesce would be a Devil on 7/1

I do wonder if the Pesce thing goes on past two PM on Monday will there be mass panic the way there was with Dougie when it took all day to work out his deal after we were rumored on him lol

Wouldn't care unless Roy gets signed in the same time period lol

 

[billingtons ghost]

I still hate trading a young Dman on a good contract when his value is at the lowest, on the basis of a rumor that we're getting an aging replacement on what's going to be a big contract. There's going to be lots of money tied up in D.

 

[NJDevs26]

Depending if NYR can offload Trouba them coming in last second would be classic them but I think if they get him off the books, it'll go to Lindgren ASAP and a top 6 forward. But I agree, I can't see why Fitz would do this if he didn't know Pesce would be a Devil on 7/1



Wouldn't care unless Roy gets signed in the same time period lol

The Rangers would try to splurge on Stamkos and Patrick Kane before they paid through the nose for Pesce lol

 

[NJDevs26]

I still hate trading a young Dman on a good contract when his value is at the lowest, on the basis of a rumor that we're getting an aging replacement on what's going to be a big contract. There's going to be lots of money tied up in D.

I'm reserving my judgement till I see the deal Pesce signs but I'm already preparing for an ugly 6-40 type of contract and Dillon to get like a 4-year deal lol

 

[Killing Joke]

The offer for pesce is apparently 6.5x6.
It’s very real they’re aiming for him. He’s apparently interested as well. Devils will also apparently take a run at Dillon.

I’m just annoyed another good trade piece, like the first round pick we pissed away on a project when better players were there with less issues, was used for nothing picks.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

So idk maybe don’t trade the guy when his value tanked

for me it’s “don’t wait til the end of the season to fire Lindy Ruff” or “don’t hire Lindy Ruff in the first place”

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

The Rangers would try to splurge on Stamkos and Patrick Kane before they paid through the nose for Pesce lol

They still need a right side dman, I highly doubt they run it back with the same defense and give Schneider those Trouba minutes even though Schneider looked good with Trouba out in March. And they'd have a ton of cap space for Pesce who grew up as a Rags fan, he would spurn us if the Rags got money last second and they approached lol.

 

[Bcap88]

I'm still surprised Carolina isn't complaining about tampering at this point, the way the Pens did when the Sullivan rumors were heating up. Even with the wink wink stuff this is a LOT of smoke pre-July 1. They must literally not give a **** since they aren't signing him anyway.

Who knows, maybe Carolina gave him permission to seek a deal pre free agency so they could get a pick for his rights

Either that or Dougie is hammering the recruitment

 

[jkrdevil]

They aren’t making this move without having the subsequent signings all locked up.

 

[billingtons ghost]

We didn't trade him at 'low' value, we traded him at meh value. Were we supposed to trade him after last offseason? Or hope he bounced back just to trade him for marginally more next offseason? This is actually an improvement over 'Ty Smith and a third' that we traded for him two years ago.

Fitz clearly wants to remake the defense and goaltending at both NHL and prospect level.

Somehow the Ty Smith thing factors into this for people, so yeah I REALLY don't think people understand value.

You have a young Dman who was our best two years ago eating #1 minutes with a stable partner, then inherited a top role and a learning 22 year old partner and a forward group who thought they could play River hockey.

I dont think Marino was nearly as bad as people think he was and we really don't have ac replacement for Bahl yet...

So let's trade away another defenseman.

There's got to be more to the story, like people are just down on him as a person bc this isn't a smart trade.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Can only work with what's available but not in love with this being solely a futures trade

 

[billingtons ghost]

And a draft pick haul? I'm sorry when do we expect to compete for a cup? 2030? There's a five year window at least before yesterday's pick becomes Marino value if he ever does. Wyatt makes anyone think those second rounders will hit our window?

 

[AfroThunder396]

I still hate trading a young Dman on a good contract when his value is at the lowest, on the basis of a rumor that we're getting an aging replacement on what's going to be a big contract. There's going to be lots of money tied up in D.

I think the clock is ticking for Dougie and Siege, neither will finish their contract here.

Dougie could be gone as early as next summer depending on how Nemec's development goes. Next summer his contract becomes much more moveable. His NMC becomes a M-NTC with a 10 team trade list, and after his 2025 signing bonus gets paid he'll only have about 15M in actual cash owed for his final 3 seasons.

 

[billingtons ghost]

I wonder if he asked out. It's either that or that they really wanted a bigger, more physical RD.

Yeah I mean this could be it. Just full rebuild of the D

 

[Zippy316]

Aside from Palat, Fitzgerald’s UFA deals and extensions have largely been very good value.

I’m going to withhold judgement on the thought of going form Marino to Pesce until I see that deal. Plus, they pick up an additional second next year that can be a trade asset in the next calendar, which isn’t nothing.

 

[Whaddagoal]

I still hate trading a young Dman on a good contract when his value is at the lowest, on the basis of a rumor that we're getting an aging replacement on what's going to be a big contract. There's going to be lots of money tied up in D.

I'm with you. Just now hoping there is something substantial locked in plan because as of right now this D is massively missing core prices. We went from 2 years ago so deep that severson was 3rd pairing to currently massive holes.

Marino fit well, though he had a rough season last season, he was fantastic prior to that.

Giving him up on a promise seems risky as hell. Whomever we are trying to land (via trade or FA) better be worth it and whatever deal it is better not f***ing fall through!

 

[Bcap88]

Somehow the Ty Smith thing factors into this for people, so yeah I REALLY don't think people understand value.

You have a young Dman who was our best two years ago eating #1 minutes with a stable partner, then inherited a top role and a learning 22 year old partner and a forward group who thought they could play River hockey.

I dont think Marino was nearly as bad as people think he was and we really don't have ac replacement for Bahl yet...

So let's trade away another defenseman.

There's got to be more to the story, like people are just down on him as a person bc this isn't a smart trade.

Marino wasn’t bad by all means

It could be a number of things from disturbing trend analytically they saw or something simple as keefe not preferring Marino. I don’t think we will ever really find out but they cashed out and are going to re roll

 

[Devilsfan118]

I know it's a message board and people want to discuss the trade, and some folks are going to be upset about it. But I really don't see the issue here, they traded into the second round to get the top ranked goalie on the board.

I don't think two second round picks is terribly bad value? Didn't the Red wings just have to pay a second round pick to dump a defenseman?

 

[JK3]