Devils Team Discussion (team/player news and notes) ‎2015 offseason IX

[NJDevs26]

we are in trouble if kennedy and stemp make this team.

Means either more cronyism or that the rookies suck.

Well Stempniak could legit make the team cause we're still such a ? at RW, but Kennedy...ick. Yeah I don't really want him anywhere near the opening roster. We have enough third-fourth line types in the system we shouldn't need too many fill-ins there.

 

[NJDevs26]

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 6m6 minutes ago
Jacques Caron, still special assignment coach for goalies, is here.

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 5m5 minutes ago
Caron said he met Ray Shero at the draft. Says he wanted to stay on and help Scott Clemmensen as he learns trade as a goalie coach.

Well at least one of the links to the past is sticking around for a while

 

[OmNomNom]

Spot the fail

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

I would be cautious on Boedker. I understand he's been with the Coyotes for his entire career, but his career high is 51 points. I'm not saying that's his ceiling, but that is his body of work to date.

Coyotes fans were expecting point production in the 60s last year, if not for his injury.

In a (conservative) vacuum, he'd be another Henrique. But I'd give him the benefit of more offensive upside. I'd absolutely throw a $6M AAV contract at that.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Well Stempniak could legit make the team cause we're still such a ? at RW, but Kennedy...ick. Yeah I don't really want him anywhere near the opening roster. We have enough third-fourth line types in the system we shouldn't need too many fill-ins there.

I wanted Kennedy to be a Devil back in his Pittsburgh days, but, yeah, he's garbage at this point.

Shame, he used to be a very useful middle-6 player. I wonder what the hell happened.

 

[Devil X]

Spot the fail

Andy Schneider huh? New guy?

 

[NJDevs26]

Spot the fail

lol that's a pretty big fail. They also spelled Kalinin's first name Sergey instead of Sergei.

 

[Burner Account]

Coyotes fans were expecting point production in the 60s last year, if not for his injury.

In a (conservative) vacuum, he'd be another Henrique. But I'd give him the benefit of more offensive upside. I'd absolutely throw a $6M AAV contract at that.

He was on pace to score 51 points again.

I would just be cautious.

 

[Mgd31]

Stempniak is making the team. I don't think any of these potential young guys can honestly come in and give you 25-30 points in a 3rd line role right now.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Andy Schneider LOL

 

[Classic Devil]

lol that's a pretty big fail. They also spelled Kalinin's first name Sergey instead of Sergei.

I think he spells it Sergey; not sure that's a mistake.

 

[njdevil26]

Here's a question... A few weeks ago, I was okay with the fact that we were "rebuilding".... but Is this even a rebuild anymore?

Tlusty, Moore, Schlemko, Palmieri, Zacha, Matteau and possibly Stempniak and Kennedy are, in my opinion, upgrades over Zubrus, Ryder, Havlat, Harrold, Salvador, and Fraser

This team is better than last year.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Here's a question... A few weeks ago, I was okay with the fact that we were "rebuilding".... but Is this even a rebuild anymore?

Tlusty, Moore, Schlemko, Palmieri, Zacha, Matteau and possibly Stempniak and Kennedy are, in my opinion, upgrades over Zubrus, Ryder, Havlat, Harrold, Salvador, and Fraser

This team is better than last year.

It's a transition year really. Sure we may be better, but we're not gunning for the playoffs and the moves Shero has made does not suggest so either. The biggest difference in the groups you mentioned is that 3 or 4 of the guys in the first group will be a part (for some, a big part) of this team's future moving forward. Whereas all of those guys in the latter group were never going to be in the future plans. This year is going to be about solidifying a foundation for the franchise moving forward. If winning comes from that, then I'll be jazzed up, but it's not the "main" goal.

 

[NHL Fanatik*]

Here's a question... A few weeks ago, I was okay with the fact that we were "rebuilding".... but Is this even a rebuild anymore?

Tlusty, Moore, Schlemko, Palmieri, Zacha, Matteau and possibly Stempniak and Kennedy are, in my opinion, upgrades over Zubrus, Ryder, Havlat, Harrold, Salvador, and Fraser

This team is better than last year.

Its a model of rebuilding that has been used for years, contrary to the other type of rebuild where one tears it down completely

 

[njdevil26]

I think this team will be a thousand times more fun to watch this coming season. I am in no way expecting playoffs... but hopefully long gone are the days of the Devils being down 1-0 in the third period with six shots on goal to show for it.

 

[Missionhockey]

Here's a question... A few weeks ago, I was okay with the fact that we were "rebuilding".... but Is this even a rebuild anymore?

Tlusty, Moore, Schlemko, Palmieri, Zacha, Matteau and possibly Stempniak and Kennedy are, in my opinion, upgrades over Zubrus, Ryder, Havlat, Harrold, Salvador, and Fraser

This team is better than last year.

I think so, Shero just cut the dead weight, but there's definitely a long term plan. Even Tlusty is a guy that could be a part of it if he performs well this year.

 

[Devilsgrl35]

I hear that Andy Schneider is a hell of a player.

 

[Zippy316]

I think so, Shero just cut the dead weight, but there's definitely a long term plan. Even Tlusty is a guy that could be a part of it if he performs well this year.

Exactly.

It's emphasis on the long-term without just completely forgetting the short term.

You aren't going to see Shero go out and sacrifice the future, but he will try to make this team competitive any other way he can.

 

[devlzfan]

It's been a few years since I've been more excited about the start of a season. There's a difference watching a bad team that's old vs. watching a bad team that's young. I'm not saying they'll be bad but when there's hope you can tolerate the losses. When you expect the losses because of a wretched roster, they become unwatchable.

 

[HBK27]

It's been a few years since I've been more excited about the start of a season. There's a difference watching a bad team that's old vs. watching a bad team that's young. I'm not saying they'll be bad but when there's hope you can tolerate the losses. When you expect the losses because of a wretched roster, they become unwatchable.

I can tolerate losses as long as the team is building towards something and younger guys are developing. That's what's making this upcoming season so exciting. Also, we've had some rough offseasons between losing Parise, Kovalchuk, Brodeur, icing an older roster, etc.

 

[HBK27]

 

[Classic Devil]

That's great. I think I need a Severson jersey. Then I'd have two jerseys with #28...

I wonder if Severson is ever going to kick Rafalski off my all-time teams...

 

[NJDevs26]

It's been a few years since I've been more excited about the start of a season. There's a difference watching a bad team that's old vs. watching a bad team that's young. I'm not saying they'll be bad but when there's hope you can tolerate the losses. When you expect the losses because of a wretched roster, they become unwatchable.

Everyone says that now, but when we inevitably do lose some people will be lamenting the fact we have no hope cause we're losing with the kids.

 

[Comparison Ford]

Damnit, just give Severson the C.

 

[Triumph]

Everyone says that now, but when we inevitably do lose some people will be lamenting the fact we have no hope cause we're losing with the kids.

If you start losing with kids, you get a new kid at the end of the year who is quite good.

NJ could finish with more points and in a lower place than they did last season. They could be a better team and finish lower - Schneider and some good shooting luck bailed out a horrible team.