Devils Team Discussion (team/player news and notes) ‎2015 offseason IX

[Maine Fan]

If the 1.6 million is not going to affect us, then there is no risk involved.

You sign a 24 year old guy who already played 230 NHL games. He was a former first round pick for a reason. He's a defender that Rangers and Coyotes fans have said that he has all the tools but hasn't put them together. If he puts them together, we could have a elite skating top four defender who plays with an edge. If not, then we just have a more-than serviceable 7th defender for the next few years.

If you can't see the upside of signing a guy like Moore, I don't know what to tell you.

I am not here to defend any position but what Wingman said was when is it right to over spend or under spend because there is a lot of money available in the cap for players. He's not wrong IMO.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Opening line up means jack ****. Players play themselves into and out of the lineup all the time. Shero didn't give Moore a three year deal to sit on the bench forever. If he doesn't make the team outright he'll be in there sooner rather than later.

I have a feeling Gelinas's spot isn't as secure as many around here think it is. Severson basically did his job as well as he did the beginning of last yuear and larsson will likely get more PP opportunities as well. Really depends on whether Hynes like 4 F on the PP or not.

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

Moore was a low-risk high-reward guy.

He fits in with the age group and if he turns it around, you have a good defender at a nice price for good trade value or just to keep around. He's the key definition of a guy with all the tools but no tool box at this point. You just hope you can set him straight and you have a great player.

To respond to the other post, I would rank our D, the guys with the best chance at playing in the NHL next year, like this:

1. Greene
2. Larsson
3. Severson
4. Merrill
5. Gelinas
6. Schlemko
7. Moore
8. Hrabarenka
9. Helgeson
10. Mozik

In terms of pairing:

Greene - Larsson
Merrill - Severson
Schlemko - Moore/Gelinas
Moore/Gelinas

Everything I heard about Schlemko seems like he is the perfect type of person to keep Moore and Gelinas honest. Essentially to be the anchor to those two guys. Maybe the Devils will reunite Gelinas-Larsson at some point. Have Larsson anchor Gelinas and Greene anchor Severson:

Greene - Severson
Gelinas - Larsson

The bottom pairing being some combination of Moore, Schlemko, and Merrill.

This will all get settled in due time, but why would you assume the early September, two-way contract has better odds to be in the starting lineup than the July 1st, three year, one-way contract?

 

[Happy]

What do you guys Think of Viktor Arvidsson in Nashville, i Think he kinda fitts the new faster younger more skilled way. And hes fun to Watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OABdbrhi30E
What would it take to get him to NJ?

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

What do you guys Think of Viktor Arvidsson in Nashville, i Think he kinda fitts the new faster younger more skilled way. And hes fun to Watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OABdbrhi30E
What would it take to get him to NJ?

He's probably not available.

 

[Zippy316]

This will all get settled in due time, but why would you assume the early September, two-way contract has better odds to be in the starting lineup than the July 1st, three year, one-way contract?

Schlemko was a one-way contract.

Honestly, everything I heard from Schlemko seems to be what we need to compliment Moore or Gelinas. Schlemko just seems like the simple play reliable defender. In Moore, you have a guy that Rangers and Coyotes fans have both said makes dumb plays in the defensive zone. He seems like a guy that hasn't figured out himself defensively yet.

We will see how it unfolds, but I think a Schlemko-Gelinas/Moore pairing makes more sense than Moore-Gelinas.

 

[Zobitembois]

What about trading Schneider ?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

What about trading Schneider ?

what about it ?

 

[Unknown Caller]

What about trading Schneider ?

Tarasenko plz.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I am not here to defend any position but what Wingman said was when is it right to over spend or under spend because there is a lot of money available in the cap for players. He's not wrong IMO.

He isn't wrong but Moore isn't an example of this.

 

[Rhodes 81]

At some point this season, some of these bottom pairing defenders will prove themselves more valuable than the rest, and they will play. Until then, I'm not going to be too concerned with who plays in what game.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

What about trading Schneider ?

Would cost you Tarasenko at the minimum.

Trading Schneider sets NJ back. You'd have to make it very much worth our while.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

He isn't wrong but Moore isn't an example of this.

Exactly.

Both arguments are correct when isolated; they shouldn't oppose each other.

Moore was a great signing for a team that's proven they're looking for young players with reasonable upside.

 

[Zippy316]

https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/642780258123563008

I'm willing to bet he got a contract offer from the Devils he turned down.

The embedding isn't working for me.

 

[NJDevs26]

Why would he turn down a contract from the Devils when the Tweet says he's been turning down PTO's cause he only wants an NHL contract or he'll go to the KHL? If we offered him a contract he would have taken it.

 

[Zippy316]

Why would he turn down a contract from the Devils when the Tweet says he's been turning down PTO's cause he only wants an NHL contract or he'll go to the KHL? If we offered him a contract he would have taken it.

I think there's a good chance he wouldn't want to play for the Devils.

This is purely me assuming, but I think the Devils would've offered him a one or two year deal and he might pass because he wants to be on a better team.

 

[NJDevs26]

Tlusty's not good enough to pick his team. It's September and he's still not signed, the Blackhawks aren't going to knock on his door tomorrow. He doesn't want to be on the Devils but he does want to be in a podunk league playing in anonymity? That's a bit self-loathing of a mindset to assume we're that undesirable that guys would rather play in the KHL (well okay one notable exception aside...but HE went there for money. If Tlusty just wanted the KHL money he'd go there right off).

 

[NHL Fanatik*]

Hopefully he comes here, if not only for the assets he'd bring back come trade deadline

 

[Maine Fan]

He isn't wrong but Moore isn't an example of this.

Thanks, and I agree re: Moore I think we will all say Moore was a good find. Time will tell.

 

[Zobitembois]

Would cost you Tarasenko at the minimum.

Trading Schneider sets NJ back. You'd have to make it very much worth our while.

Ahah. I'm not a Blues as my profile pic can suggest. I'm a Devils fan by the way.

I just think that our "rebuild" is going great but I don't see NJ being a contender during Schneids "peak/prime years.

So why not try to get something for him as his value could decrease with time ?

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Ahah. I'm not a Blues as my profile pic can suggest. I'm a Devils fan by the way.

I just think that our "rebuild" is going great but I don't see NJ being a contender during Schneids "peak/prime years.

So why not try to get something for him as his value could decrease with time ?

Last year was Schneider's first season as a full-time NHL starter. He has plenty of miles left.

I just don't understand this 'peak years' language that a lot of people throw around here. Cory's gonna be a stud for the entirety of his new extension, and then some.

 

[Devils Dominion]

You do not trade Cory unless it's a ridiculous offer that you just can't refuse and that's unrealistic.

 

[217 Forever]

Ahah. I'm not a Blues as my profile pic can suggest. I'm a Devils fan by the way.

I just think that our "rebuild" is going great but I don't see NJ being a contender during Schneids "peak/prime years.

So why not try to get something for him as his value could decrease with time ?

Forget it dude, the Cory worshippers on here will just beat you into submission.

 

[goonybird]

Forget it dude, the Cory worshippers on here will just beat you into submission.

Any reason why he shouldn't be worshipped?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Forget it dude, the Cory worshippers on here will just beat you into submission.

ya, we should just trade him for a 2nd rounder at this point because he isn't 23 years old.