Devils Team Discussion (team/player news and notes) ‎2015 offseason IX

[GhostofKenKlee]

They are paying John Moore alot of money and years for him to be the number 7.

 

[Zippy316]

They are paying John Moore alot of money and years for him to be the number 7.

Moore was a low-risk high-reward guy.

He fits in with the age group and if he turns it around, you have a good defender at a nice price for good trade value or just to keep around. He's the key definition of a guy with all the tools but no tool box at this point. You just hope you can set him straight and you have a great player.

To respond to the other post, I would rank our D, the guys with the best chance at playing in the NHL next year, like this:

1. Greene
2. Larsson
3. Severson
4. Merrill
5. Gelinas
6. Schlemko
7. Moore
8. Hrabarenka
9. Helgeson
10. Mozik

In terms of pairing:

Greene - Larsson
Merrill - Severson
Schlemko - Moore/Gelinas
Moore/Gelinas

Everything I heard about Schlemko seems like he is the perfect type of person to keep Moore and Gelinas honest. Essentially to be the anchor to those two guys. Maybe the Devils will reunite Gelinas-Larsson at some point. Have Larsson anchor Gelinas and Greene anchor Severson:

Greene - Severson
Gelinas - Larsson

The bottom pairing being some combination of Moore, Schlemko, and Merrill.

 

[MichaelJ]

Actual news.

Feel terrible for Clowe but it's without a doubt the correct call. His life is more important then playing hockey.

I don't necessarily feel terrible for him as long as the concussions he has had have no long lasting effects. He's still getting paid over $4M a year and doesn't have to subject himself to the rigors of pro hockey.

 

[MadDevil]

Interesting piece from TG about Elias...

http://fireandice.northjersey.com/m...t-and-why-he-s-never-wanted-it-back-1.1408460

Hard to believe he's one of only 6 guys left from that 2012 playoff run.

 

[njdevils1982]

Interesting piece from TG about Elias...

http://fireandice.northjersey.com/m...t-and-why-he-s-never-wanted-it-back-1.1408460

Hard to believe he's one of only 6 guys left from that 2012 playoff run.

i posted something about this a while back……the turnover is big…. but i think i mentioned it being 7

 

[MadDevil]

i posted something about this a while back……the turnover is big…. but i think i mentioned it being 7

I misread that. He said there are only 6 left who played in the Final. Larsson would be the 7th player, but he only played 5 playoff games, none in the Final.

 

[njdevils1982]

I misread that. He said there are only 6 left who played in the Final. Larsson would be the 7th player, but he only played 5 playoff games, none in the Final.

all good, i realized the TG write mentioned "finals" after i posted

but hey ,,,,,at least my memory isnt that shot

 

[Bleedred]

It'll be 8 once we give a PTO to and then re sign Tallinder.

Don't forget our record with him in the SCF was 2-1 in games he played.

 

[Bleedred]

From a team/cap perspective, the Rolston and Volchenkov contracts were way worse than Clowe

I absolutely agree.

Some of those 05 post lockout contracts were worse too.

Malakhov, McGillis, Mogilny wasn't as bad because we LTIR'd his last season too.

We got rid of Malakhov's cap hit to the Sharks, losing that first rounder hurt though.

 

[Billdo]

Trying to get open practice tickets through ticketmaster is fun. Go all the way through and nothing happens when you press confirm purchase. It just refreshes every time.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

They are paying John Moore alot of money and years for him to be the number 7.

they really aren't

 

[NJDevs26]

If Moore is the #7 on Opening Day then it's a bad signing. You're basically paying him twice as much as #7's, granted they can afford to waste a few hundred K this year at least but still. If we were up against the cap there's no way you spend $5 million on a 7th dman

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

Sorry for sounding ignorant, but I've forgotten how long and how much Moore was signed for. I think I remember it was a three year deal, but nothing else.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

If Moore is the #7 on Opening Day then it's a bad signing. You're basically paying him twice as much as #7's, granted they can afford to waste a few hundred K this year at least but still. If we were up against the cap there's no way you spend $5 million on a 7th dman

I believe Moore will be in the starting lineup.

 

[Ben Matlock]

Sorry for sounding ignorant, but I've forgotten how long and how much Moore was signed for. I think I remember it was a three year deal, but nothing else.

1.67 m per year, three years.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

1.67 m per year, three years.

Thanks for the remainder. I don't think that salary would be too bad for a 7th defenseman (and maybe he can do better than that for us). I read that comment about not paying a 7th defenseman 4 million, and I got kind of scared thinking he was getting paid 4 million a year, and I'd somehow deleted that from my memory bank. What a relief.

 

[goonybird]

how dare you ask a question!? repent you ignorant fool!

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

they really aren't

He's making three times what Schmenko got plus three years, it's a bad signing if it's for him to be a 7th. defensemen.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

If Moore is the #7 on Opening Day then it's a bad signing. You're basically paying him twice as much as #7's, granted they can afford to waste a few hundred K this year at least but still. If we were up against the cap there's no way you spend $5 million on a 7th dman

This here.

 

[Billdo]

Moore will not be a 7th defenseman. I think you've got a better chance of Merrill or Gelinas being traded than you do of Moore sitting for extended periods as our 7th defenseman. Nobody signs a guy for three years to be the 7th defenseman. Except Lou and Co.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

how dare you ask a question!? repent you ignorant fool!

I already apologized in advance but maybe I should say sorry again since it was a grave crime.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

He's making three times what Schmenko got plus three years, it's a bad signing if it's for him to be a 7th. defensemen.

on a team thats $20 million under the cap, who gives a ****?

 

[Wingman77]

on a team thats $20 million under the cap, who gives a ****?

Regardless of who the player is, looking of the logic of what you said - whether you are $20 million under or $20K under, when does that EVER make it ok to go out and make careless signings where the players role and output could backfire?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Regardless of who the player is, looking of the logic of what you said - whether you are $20 million under or $20K under, when does that EVER make it ok to go out and make careless signings where the players role and output could backfire?

I'm not sure how you get that from my post?

if Moore is the 7th D, it probably means all our young had pretty good games. which would not be a bad thing last time I checked.

 

[Zippy316]

Regardless of who the player is, looking of the logic of what you said - whether you are $20 million under or $20K under, when does that EVER make it ok to go out and make careless signings where the players role and output could backfire?

If the 1.6 million is not going to affect us, then there is no risk involved.

You sign a 24 year old guy who already played 230 NHL games. He was a former first round pick for a reason. He's a defender that Rangers and Coyotes fans have said that he has all the tools but hasn't put them together. If he puts them together, we could have a elite skating top four defender who plays with an edge. If not, then we just have a more-than serviceable 7th defender for the next few years.

If you can't see the upside of signing a guy like Moore, I don't know what to tell you.