Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part VI

[None Shall Pass]

I know I shouldn't, but I do worry about the assumption the cap will shoot up. This Bally et al issue is not a good thing.

You're right to worry. 15 of the NHL's 32 teams are going to be directly impacted by the RSN meltdown.

We should stop assuming that the cap will be making a big jump over the next few years until that runs its course.

I'm sure Fitz, and other smart GMs, are monitoring the situation though.

 

[NjDevsRR]

I picture the Orangutan "Where Timo" image when looking at that lineup

 

[JrFischer54]

Literally all you do is make sarcastic posts with zero substance whatsoever. You watched a trade involving potentially 3 1st round picks and continued your very intelligent belief that 1st round picks don’t matter.

I think morale would be okay considering we landed the best player available and would be adding another proven quality dman in my crystal clear proposal. In your rush to hip fire a sarcastic jab about 1st round picks, you missed that I guess.

first round picks absolutely matter when you are rebuilding. we aren't rebuilding so no they don't matter to us you use them to get to the next level. pretty sure you could even understand that but rewind the clock a few days ago that was lost on you when you didn't want to deal our first let alone two of them. i didn't miss that i guess team chemistry only matters when its kids not vets involved

 

[Blackjack]

You're right to worry. 15 of the NHL's 32 teams are going to be directly impacted by the RSN meltdown.

We should stop assuming that the cap will be making a big jump over the next few years until that runs its course.

I'm sure Fitz, and other smart GMs, are monitoring the situation though.

I still think a tight cap helps us more than hurts us. It kills the Rangers.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

It would look good now and look even better in 3 years when the cap has risen a good amount.

We really have got to stop making this assumption.

 

[Devils731]

I know I shouldn't, but I do worry about the assumption the cap will shoot up. This Bally et al issue is not a good thing.

I think it will be a bump in the road; something all the leagues need to work through but not something that changes the medium nor long term models much.

All the sports leagues were going to have to transition away from the RSNs in the future anyway, this may just speed the process up.

Comcast dropped MSG in my area in October of 2021 and still hasn’t added it back in. I think most users figured out alternative ways to view the games rather than their local cable provider. This is similar/a precursor to the streaming that all the leagues will have to embrace long term.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

first round picks absolutely matter when you are rebuilding. we aren't rebuilding so no they don't matter to us you use them to get to the next level. pretty sure you could even understand that but rewind the clock a few days ago that was lost on you when you didn't want to deal our first let alone two of them. i didn't miss that i guess team chemistry only matters when its kids not vets involved

More gibberish. The move wouldn’t be about rebuilding, I clearly stated it would be about team balance. On paper, a pure defensive dman makes more sense to pair with a rookie risk taker dman if we’re choosing to go down that road.

Anyway, you don’t do nuance, you do couple sentence snipes. Bye bye.

 

[None Shall Pass]

I still think a tight cap helps us more than hurts us. It kills the Rangers.

For sure but it also adds a wrinkle to Bratt and Timo extensions.

 

[Devils731]

We really have got to stop making this assumption.

Why? League revenue is likely already significantly above the league revenue when the cap was last set.

There are issues with the RSNs but that isn’t going to crater the entire league revenue.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Why? League revenue is likely already significantly above the league revenue when the cap was last set.

There are issues with the RSNs but that isn’t going to crater the entire league revenue.

It certainly can have enough impact that the cap only goes up slightly instead of significantly.

 

[Devils731]

It certainly can have enough impact that the cap only goes up slightly instead of significantly.

This is a pure guess, but I’m guessing league revenue this year is already 20% higher than when the cap last was set based on revenue; revenue guessed at about a billion higher than before.

How much do we think this RSN issue is going to affect the league in the short term? What the revenue lost versus the revenue recouped?

 

[MartyOwns]

Well he's got a lot of time for pottery classes with not working and all.

Imagine being gifted Crosby, Malkin, Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier and turning in the results he has? Holy shit what a loser

Cory Schneider and Ray Shero should get a gig co-hosting the biggest loser.

he’s actually been working for the wild for a while now. not sure how you can count his time in pittsburgh a failure, but the moves and drafts he made are still benefiting our franchise. all while starting out with an organization rife with petrified giraffe shit gifted by his predecessor. he wasn’t perfect, but he played his shit cards better than anyone could have, for which i’m eternally grateful. and is the reason we got timo for a bunch of expendable pieces. meanwhile, lou continues to tarnish his legacy when he should be eating rice pudding by a nice window.

 

[MasterofGrond]

I’m apparently in the minority here, but I really don’t think the RSN stuff is as bad as it seems. The biggest issue is Bally and that’s just a bad financial engineering risk rather than a fundamental issue with the structure of the broadcasting industry. That company is profitable without the massive debt service.

There probably will be some issues of continuity but I actually doubt there’s a major cap effect.

 

[JimEIV]

he’s actually been working for the wild for a while now. not sure how you can count his time in pittsburgh a failure, but the moves and drafts he made are still benefiting our franchise. all while starting out with an organization rife with petrified giraffe shit gifted by his predecessor. he wasn’t perfect, but he played his shit cards better than anyone could have, for which i’m eternally grateful. and is the reason we got timo for a bunch of expendable pieces. meanwhile, lou continues to tarnish his legacy when he should be eating rice pudding by a nice window.

He's been working for Minnesota like Corky worked at the movie theater

 

[Blackjack]

For sure but it also adds a wrinkle to Bratt and Timo extensions.

Only in the sense that Fitz might be more reluctant to meet their asking prices. If we assume $9 million for both wingers, $1.5 million for G backup whether it’s Blackwood or not, an $83.5 million cap, and goodbyes to Tatar, Wood, Severson, Haula, and Graves, the team will be sitting on over $17 million in cap space.

Obviously we can bring back everyone on the list if we want. Point is the cap itself is not an obstacle assuming $9 million is the ask for both.

 

[Better Call Sal]

 

[JrFischer54]

now thats the team chemistry i'm talking about!

 

[guitarguyvic]

he’s actually been working for the wild for a while now. not sure how you can count his time in pittsburgh a failure, but the moves and drafts he made are still benefiting our franchise. all while starting out with an organization rife with petrified giraffe shit gifted by his predecessor. he wasn’t perfect, but he played his shit cards better than anyone could have, for which i’m eternally grateful. and is the reason we got timo for a bunch of expendable pieces. meanwhile, lou continues to tarnish his legacy when he should be eating rice pudding by a nice window.

He played his cards better than anyone else could have? This is some next level apologism. Saying that the moves he made are still benefiting the franchise is like saying the way Blackwood has played this season is the reason the team is good. Shero did the minimum you’d expect a rebuilding GM to do. Just about all the home run swings he went for didn’t work out and the only long term impact was further delaying the rebuild. Dude had no vision for how to construct a team with pieces that fit each other, and he certainly didn’t seem to have any interest in developing a proper defense core.

Shero is as mediocre a GM as you can get. Even in Pittsburgh he sort of just stumbled into one Stanley cup despite having two generational centers that were gifted to him for 9 seasons.

There are any number of other GM’s we could have had that would have been as “successful” as Shero was. He didn’t do anything special here at all.

 

[bigd]

trade Sevs for a 1st and package that 1st and Holtz for Chychrun, f*** it! lmao





We knew this already, but:

I'm done with Blackwood, he lives on IR!

 

[DevilsHughes86]

I'm done with Blackwood, he lives on IR!

Pretty sure Fitzy doesn't qualify him this summer.

 

[Azathoth]

Jeeze, Ray Shero is like the ex some you guys just can't help but calling up every time you've had one too many drinks. We got Timo f***ing Meier!

 

[AfroThunder396]

Drafting is VERY important for contending teams. Getting quality ELC contributors is essential to managing the cap and paying your top prime players. That doesn't necessarily need to come from the 1st round. It's always a fine line between today's impact and tomorrow's impact, there always needs to be balance.

Fortunately we have a lot of premium ELC contributors either waiting in the wings or on the roster, so that's not something we need to concern ourselves with at the moment. Meier is absolutely worth it, especially if we get him signed (which I'm confident we will), but we should not be in the habit of throwing 1sts around like candy.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

This PP unit will cook

 

[OmNomNom]

he can't go anywhere

 

[Cheddabombs]

Can it just be Wednesday, or whenever Timo debuts day, already?