Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part IV

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Hisch13r

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The Toronto example is always hilarious. Like they’ve been one of the best teams in the league for a while now and their playoff struggles are not because they’re paying their best players. Those players are the reason they’re as good as they are and they even come nearly as close as they have to doing something they haven’t done in decades.

Plus they’re paying their 4 best forwards about 40M. We’re talking worst case about paying our 4 best about 33M. 9M is a lot for both Bratt and Meier but it really not a big issue and they’re both elite wingers that we should absolutely keep around if possible (if we were to trade for Meier).

And you’ve got Marino and Siegs at a combined 7.8. We’re fine
 

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dude WHAT does Dawson Mercer have to do with Bratt, like at all? Mercer is in the 2nd year of his ELC and won't need a new contract until even after NEXT season? I am not sure what your point is comparing the two players.

and yes, I am fairly confident in saying that Dawson Mercer will never become a top ~20 winger in the entire NHL

Bratt "can't score" now? The guy that had 26 last year and will threaten 30 this year? The guy thats a 12.4% shooter? That guy?
Cool, another Devils Player I Personally Dislike vs Mercer debate.

I mean, I really hope Mercer turns out to be better than Bratt and Nico, f*** it, better than Jack too*. I love the kid and the better he is, the better we are.

He’s shown a lot and I’m not going to negative about him for a goofy debate. “He can replace Bratt” is the new “he can replace Nico” though, and about as reasonable.



*Unless we trade him, then nevermind lol
 
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dude WHAT does Dawson Mercer have to do with Bratt, like at all? Mercer is in the 2nd year of his ELC and won't need a new contract until even after NEXT season? I am not sure what your point is comparing the two players.

and yes, I am fairly confident in saying that Dawson Mercer will never become a top ~20 winger in the entire NHL

Bratt "can't score" now? The guy that had 26 last year and will threaten 30 this year? The guy thats a 12.4% shooter? That guy?
Youre fairly confident Mercer wont become a top-20 winger

Just about as fairly confident you were Bratt would become a top-20 winger when he was 21 right? That 30 points in 62 games season sure was a highlight that year huh
 

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Sorry to interrupt this debate but there are some crazy people out there :



Who pays 1300+ for a GEERSTEN jersey? :huh:


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Just trying to gauge the disease that is Brattitis and how far spread it is here lately

The Devils have a literal Jesper Bratt clone in Dawson Mercer aged 21, but lets pay Bratt 9m, our soon to be fourth best forward behind Meier, because who needs forward depth.

Current season stats have Hamilton nearly twenty points above Mercer, our fifth highest point producer. Followed by a Tatar and Haula unlikely to be re-signed.

So clearly the response to a lack of forward depth is to commit 18 million to two more first line forwards in the coming months

But I guess people like ZajacsBowlCut and Hischier with the lame numbers are so confident that Mercer cant ever be Bratt . Just as confident as they were in Bratt becoming a top winger when he was under .5ppg at 21
 

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Just trying to gauge the disease that is Brattitis and how far spread it is here lately

The Devils have a literal Jesper Bratt clone in Dawson Mercer aged 21, but lets pay Bratt 9m, our soon to be fourth best forward behind Meier, because who needs forward depth.

Current season stats have Hamilton nearly twenty points above Mercer, our fifth highest point producer. Followed by a Tatar and Haula unlikely to be re-signed.

So clearly the response to a lack of forward depth is to commit 18 million to two more first line forwards in the coming months
How in the name of hell can someone claim Mercer is a Bratt clone? Like there’s nothing about that that makes sense even if you think he could be better eventually.
 

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Mercer and Bratt are completely different type of players.
How in the name of hell can someone claim Mercer is a Bratt clone? Like there’s nothing about that that makes sense even if you think he could be better eventually.
Small forwards who have good motors and playmaking skills with good defense

Yeah those two are wildly apart youre right my bad
 

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Small forwards who have good motors and playmaking skills with good defense

Yeah those two are wildly apart youre right my bad
Mercer one isn’t as small as bratt and isn’t nearly as good of a skater or playmaker to this point.

Basically the only thing comparable is that they both have good motors but Bratt is much better in most aspects otherwise and is much more impactful. Could Mercer get there. Possibly but it’s not likely he’s ever as good as Bratt. He certainly isn’t a clone of Bratt lol.
 

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Mercer one isn’t as small as bratt and isn’t nearly as good of a skater or playmaker to this point.

Basically the only thing comparable is that they both have good motors but Bratt is much better in most aspects otherwise and is much more impactful. Could Mercer get there. Possibly but it’s not likely he’s ever as good as Bratt. He certainly isn’t a clone of Bratt lol.
Right well while you pick apart their extremely subtle differences, lets just remember both play the position of wing and are known as playmakers. One isnt seven inches taller nor is one a sniper

So yes theyre basically clones. You can be literal if you want and nitpick it but Mercer is our best forward going forward whos cheap (literally what Bratt was for us, weird another perfect comparison)

But yes tell me more how its unlikely 18th overall Mercer can ever catch 6th rounder Jesper Bratt. Someone must have posted a link here last week while I was gone to a magic 8-ball vendor, I gotta get mine
 

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Bratt and Mercer play literally nothing alike. I have no idea why you're even making this comparison because no one is suggesting sending Mercer anywhere? He should also be on the team for a long time.

Its okay to have more than 3 good forwards? Not sure if youre aware.
 

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So you knew Bratt was gonna become this at 21?

Let me send over my portfolio, youll make me a lot of money
No one knew what Bratt would become at 21. Just as no one knows what Mercer will become which is why it would be really stupid if someone to suggest he’s a Bratt clone when he’s nowhere near him right now and there’s a damn good chance he never is.

It’s funny reading through this because a bunch of the things you’ve said you’ve literally come up with your own counterpoints to elsewhere.
 
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Know one knew what Bratt would become at 21. Just as no one knows what Mercer will become which is why it would be really stupid if someone to suggest he’s a Bratt clone when he’s nowhere near him right now and there’s a damn good chance he never is.

It’s funny reading through this because a bunch of the things you’ve said you’ve literally come up with your own counterpoints to elsewhere.
Whats funny is seeing everyone try to dance around the proclamation that Mercer probably wont be better or as good as Bratt when they have literally nothing to stand on when saying that
 
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