Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part III

[NJDevs26]

Clearly the league and teams don't have an issue, but how is the contract info / destination known already? Is there a soft talking period or something?

I don't think there's supposed to be but there seems to be a mutual agreement to ignore that.

 

[NJDevs26]

That's not how any of this works. The players union would never agree to let something like that occur.

Each contract a player signs through their agent is its own legal agreement with the team and their lawyers. You don't change the terms after the contract is signed. It's a legal agreement.

Yeah A-Rod's trade to the Red Sox in 2003 got nixed cause the union wouldn't let him defer money from an already signed deal. The guy who ran the MLB Union then, is running the NHL Union now, or at least was as of recently.

 

[Devils Trap]

What if Palat doesn't tell anyone? How could they prove that in your opinion?

The IRS !?? The hell. What do you think happen in the world???

The Devils will commit IRS fraud so no one knows about where Stamkos is getting 2 million dollars from !???? Jesus Christ

 

[Emperoreddy]

Clearly the league and teams don't have an issue, but how is the contract info / destination known already? Is there a soft talking period or something?

No idea, but they said at the draft that like 80% of the pending free agents already have their destinations and deals done.

 

[RSeen]

Problem with Bastian is he is too often not available.

He's a prototype 4th liner otherwise.

Better have some depth then. I wouldn't trade him. He can be an effective player with the right line mates. I could see Cotter being a good complement.

 

[Guttersniped]

He's just a dude.

If he's good enough to beat out competition, good for him. But I'm not hesitating to put in competition and upgrade on him

His contract is also able to be buried, so in zbc's example, if he's the 13th / 14th forward, I'm absolutely putting that money in the ahl

I love Bastian but he had a rough year, partly due to injury. Hopefully he’s healthy and can have a productive off-season.

 

[Devilsgrl35]

Yeah A-Rod's trade to the Red Sox in 2003 got nixed cause the union wouldn't let him defer money from an already signed deal. The guy who ran the MLB Union then, is running the NHL Union now, or at least was as of recently.

Didn't know that. Funny enough now MLB is all about deferrals now which I personally think is stupid considering time value of money and god forbid something tragic happens. Secure the bag as soon as possible, you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

I think what this poster is suggesting is something like what the NFL does where players take pay cuts to sign another player. The NHL and NHLPA does not have that written in the CBA.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Bastian simply cannot skate

I really don't care that he hits people because most of the time he can't catch up with them so he is chasing the play

 

[Emperoreddy]

So we are going to make a run at Dillion, but that isn't a guarantee.

Who else could we sign at LD if Boston or Toronto snakes us?

 

[JrFischer54]

The IRS !?? The hell. What do you think happen in the world???

The Devils will commit IRS fraud so no one knows about where Stamkos is getting 2 million dollars from !???? Jesus Christ

If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying

 

[Whaddagoal]

I love Bastian but he had a rough year, partly due to injury. Hopefully he’s healthy and can have a productive off-season.

He said in his exit interview he is really looking forward to this offseason because he can get back to training hard (unlike previous off season due to injury healing)

 

[NjDevsRR]

IRS?
Fraud?

Skyler, there’s rot….

 

[Jondre91]

do people think Fitz is trying to purposely ruin the team. that is the way it seems. maybe he is trying to do good. he might not doing it the way we like but he is trying

 

[HersheyBob27]

Problem with Bastian is he is too often not available.

He's a prototype 4th liner otherwise.

I think you can pencil in Nate to start season at 4RW. Having a full off season to work out after rehabbing last summer is huge. I think he has a career year this winter.
As an aside I hope people are prepared for jack to not feel comfortable until after the new year. Shoulder surgery can mess with your head

 

[jkrdevil]

Sounds like Predators are favorite for Stamkos.

 

[Oneiro]

So we are going to make a run at Dillion, but that isn't a guarantee.

Who else could we sign at LD if Boston or Toronto snakes us?

Past Dillon, it's pretty bad.

Maybe Kulikov would want to come back? Gryzelcyk has fallen off. Everyone else is not defensively strong enough or washed. I'm hoping we're not a Zadorov team.

 

[HersheyBob27]

Would love a dillon add. Definitely an adult and pro in the room. F**k the rangers. Go devils

 

[Whaddagoal]

do people think Fitz is trying to purposely ruin the team. that is the way it seems. maybe he is trying to do good. he might not doing it the way we like but he is trying

Ruin.........? Only if we don't come out of UFA time with at least 1 better John Marino replacement.....

 

[HersheyBob27]

do people think Fitz is trying to purposely ruin the team. that is the way it seems. maybe he is trying to do good. he might not doing it the way we like but he is trying

Wut he say

 

[JimEIV]

So we are going to make a run at Dillion, but that isn't a guarantee.

Who else could we sign at LD if Boston or Toronto snakes us?

Tough question. How about Derek Forbort?

 

[Rhodes 81]

Hasn’t nothing to do with this. No one wanted Holtz because he isn’t very good

Don't confuse me with someone that thought Holtz was good. But how many times have we read about how someone's value is decreased because we know they want out? Same situation here. I don't think Holtz should have returned a great player, but we didn't help ourselves by making it so obvious.

“LMAO”

Marino for two 2nds isn’t good value?

Schmid and Holtz who have little value for a 3rd and a depth forward isn’t good value?

Do tell me what he should have gotten for them and from where. Do tell

Not sure if this was replying to me or someone else. I said a couple of times the Marino trade is fine from a value standpoint. I also like Cotter, I think he can fill some of the void left by Myles Wood. It's just disappointing that that's the type of return Holtz can get at this point. I'm happier with the result there than the Marino trade. Maybe we end up trading the 2025 pick for help now in the next few days, why I said I'd reserve judgement. I just would have preferred a roster player is all.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Don't confuse me with someone that thought Holtz was good. But how many times have we read about how someone's value is decreased because we know they want out? Same situation here. I don't think Holtz should have returned a great player, but we didn't help ourselves by making it so obvious.

Not sure if this was replying to me or someone else. I said a couple of times the Marino trade is fine from a value standpoint. I also like Cotter, I think he can fill some of the void left by Myles Wood. It's just disappointing that that's the type of return Holtz can get at this point. I'm happier with the result there than the Marino trade. Maybe we end up trading the 2025 pick for help now in the next few days, why I said I'd reserve judgement. I just would have preferred a roster player is all.

Was replying to KJ




Tonight’s Doordasher wasn’t ready for my sticker reply

 

[Rhodes 81]

Was replying to KJ

Tonight’s Doordasher wasn’t ready for my reply

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LMAO

This must be someone who's posts I don't see

 

[TrufleShufle]

I made a joke about Palat giving Stamkos some of his money to come here. I see it caused a debate about the legality of it. I understand this is my fault and I promise, in the future, I will make the same types of stupid jokes and not clarify that they are in fact, just stupid jokes. If you take them seriously going forward, this is on you.

 

[NjDevsRR]

I made a joke about Palat giving Stamkos some of his money to come here. I see it caused a debate about the legality of it. I understand this is my fault and I promise, in the future, I will make the same types of stupid jokes and not clarify that they are in fact, just stupid jokes. If you take them seriously going forward, this is on you.

We talking Andre Palot?