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Arvidsson would make sense, good production/underlying numbers and a right shot -- right now Mercer is the only one in the top 9 with a right shot. Maybe his injury issues could knock off some term for the deal as well
Mercer if getting 3 years or less should be closer to $3-3.5M. Dillon I think will be closer to $4.5-5M.This is how I would allocate 19.8m.
Pesce $6m
Mercer $4m
Dillon $3m
Domi $3m (I would also accept Duchene and Henrique as alternative for Domi)
Trenin $2.5m
Nosek $1m (I would have him as 13th F over Foote, who I would sign but send to AHL)
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I would think he'd need to clear waivers. I think he starts as #13 given that, unless he has a poor camp.Foote should absolutely go to AHL given he had barely played last season due to injuries.
I think the 13th forward slot should be a center if we are forced to carry MacDermid. Nosek as a 5C is fine. I doubt their is a better 5C available as a free agent market.
If its on a two year deal, I could see it. There will be competition for him.Dillon ain't getting $5 million
If its on a two year deal, I could see it. There will be competition for him.
He is viewed as a top 4 Dman that is likely to get a short term deal (due to age). On the free agent market, $2.5-3M seems too low IMO.literally all the contract comparable projections have him somewhere between $2.5-$3 million per year
if he got almost double that, I would be shocked
I'm not a Holtz fan...never was but the return was roughI might take a vacation from these boards until October. The thoughtless negativity is too much to take. Hell, it’s mid summer and FA hasn’t even happened yet. Holtz fan boys have to understand it was a pick that didn’t work and he was a borderline sunk cost. I am quite confident he won’t work in Vegas.
We didn’t get fleeced, we chose to trade him when the market disliked him or valued him what he is at this stage of his career. He is a literal black hole for possession due to compete, board play, careless decisions with the puck and inability to get in lanes.I'm not a Holtz fan...never was but the return was rough
Ty Smith was a pick that didn't work out either. He returned Marino.
Ty Smith has played 9 NHL games since he's been traded. I guarantee you Holtz plays more than that by the end of October.
We got fleeced in this deal
You don't have to convince me about his deficiencies and what his future will hold...I don't disagree one bit...and I don't even disagree that there was probably no market for him...We didn’t get fleeced, we chose to trade him when the market disliked him or valued him what he is at this stage of his career. He is a literal black hole for possession due to compete, board play, careless decisions with the puck and inability to get in lanes.
Put it this way, if he scores 30 in Vegas and it’s the second offseason in a row we toss a young 30-goal guy in the trash, then Fitz and his development team should be fired for player mismanagement itself, forget the actual trade. Because there was no way he was coming close to that here.I might take a vacation from these boards until October. The thoughtless negativity is too much to take. Hell, it’s mid summer and FA hasn’t even happened yet. Holtz fan boys have to understand it was a pick that didn’t work and he was a borderline sunk cost. I am quite confident he won’t work in Vegas.
You don't have to convince me about his deficiencies and what his future will hold...I don't disagree one bit...and I don't even disagree that there was probably no market for him...
But you just can't let a former #7OA fizz out to nothing. He should have been moved when he was still a worth while project for some team.
I would say Fitz has been trying for a year. I think his book was very much written after last season. Hell, he even had a good offseason last year. Too little too late. I’m happy to have moved on. Getting Silayev at 10 has more than made my weekend.You don't have to convince me about his deficiencies and what his future will hold...I don't disagree one bit...and I don't even disagree that there was probably no market for him...
But you just can't let a former #7OA fizz out to nothing. He should have been moved when he was still a worth while project for some team.
Ty Smith played 20 minutes a game as a 20 year old rookie. Alex Holtz had minimal value.I'm not a Holtz fan...never was but the return was rough
Ty Smith was a pick that didn't work out either. He returned Marino.
Ty Smith has played 9 NHL games since he's been traded. I guarantee you Holtz plays more than that by the end of October.
We got fleeced in this deal
As I said in an earlier post is that his value absolutely nosedived way quicker than most do. He went from being a high end prospect to much lower value in my opinion the second teams saw he couldn’t keep up. Since then Fitz has been trying but no one’s wanted him.You don't have to convince me about his deficiencies and what his future will hold...I don't disagree one bit...and I don't even disagree that there was probably no market for him...
But you just can't let a former #7OA fizz out to nothing. He should have been moved when he was still a worth while project for some team.
That plus there’s only so many times you can tell GM’s your former high pick is on the table before the red flags go up.They reportedly tried to move him in the Timo trade and the Markstrom trade and both teams didn't want him.
I tend to agree with you, but if no one wants him then there isn't a whole lot that can be done
Depends, is it a 30 goal black hole everywhere else ala Michael Ryder or late in his career Petr Sykora? I don’t care, as long as NJ makes the playoffs and takes steps forward as a team.Put it this way, if he scores 30 in Vegas and it’s the second offseason in a row we toss a young 30-goal guy in the trash, then Fitz and his development team should be fired for player mismanagement itself, forget the actual trade. Because there was no way he was coming close to that here.