Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part III

[Hisch13r]

One of the dumber moves last summer letting him go

Yeah other moves you could at least put forth a justifiable reason. We let Boqvist walk so he could go sign a f***ing minimum. It 100% had to be Fitz just going “tOo sMaLl”. He should’ve been retained and it also should’ve been Suter over Nosek.

 

[Forge]

 

[NJDevs26]

Except the team he went to just let him go too. He gets so overrated here

 

[Hisch13r]

I think we’re learning that Keefe was the reason why Toronto had like 10 NHL D on their roster lol

 

[NjDevsRR]

Theres your depth D

Edit: averaged around 16/17 mins last two seasons

 

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Zetterlund is that you?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Except the team he went to just let him go too. He gets so overrated here

And Bruins fans are pissed about him leaving and Fitz overcorrecting in the bottom 6 is proof he misses Boqvist here. No one thinks he's a savior but he's the type of player that made the 22-23 Devils good. Was he the reason we sucked last year? Heck no, but the emphasis on slower/heavier players definitely played a role in the bottom 6 being garbage when it was the obvious of our calling card in 22-23 where we caved teams into the ground skating wise.

 

[Hisch13r]

Theres your depth D

I mean we already had Hatakka and DeSimone as depth D. We needed a 3LD and Kovacevic is a RD. This doesn’t feel like a move they’re making to forgo Pesce or 3LD

 

[devilsblood]

Faster? How about someone who doesn’t have stone hands too, or is more physical, or has a half decent shot and can score every now and then.

Nosek is overall one of the worst players skill wise I’ve seen. He virtually sucked at everything. Shouldn’t even be an NHL player and he may not be anymore. Very much doubt Fitz goes back to him.

Nosek is a defense first (or even only) 4th line center. Good faceoff guy, good giveaway takeaway ratio, can play PK.

It's the 4th line, and maybe we can bring in a faster guy with more offensive skill, but I can guarantee it comes at the expense of defense.

Fans are just going to hate on 4th lines though. Heck wasn't too long ago people wanted to move on from McLeod.

 

[Mgd31]

This guy looks pretty decent actually but is he really needed?

 

[devilsblood]

More giants.

His PK numbers look pretty good.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Goddamn he is 6’5 225

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Idk what there is to 'holy crap man' for - Siegenthaler will not be playing the same minutes as Luke Hughes. Not even close. Therefore it does matter who the top pair is

You can keep saying fit but that 'fit' had a single season of sample size under a different coach in our greatest regular season ever - the odds of that replicating are slim to none

I see absolutely no reason why Nemec and Siegenthaler cant play together

The holy crap man is you not really reading/comprehending remotely what I’ve saying. Even if Siegenthaler is playing with Dougie on what is listed as the top pair, he won’t playing as many minutes as Luke. That’s literally my whole point. Therefore it doesn’t matter in the slightest who’s listed as the top pair.

He already played 2 minutes less per game than Luke this year despite being listed on the top pair most of the time. That will likely be an even bigger difference if he still sucks and we bring in someone better than Bahl and Smith such as Dillon.



The fit wasn’t just about that one season. I don’t want Nemec with Siegenthaler. When they’ve played together, Siegenthaler is either not giving Nemec the puck and just throwing it up the wall or he’s sending him tougher to deal with and rimmed D2D’s. Nemec isn’t that great at dealing with those and Siegenthaler doesn’t really help get him the puck in good spots and play to his strengths. I think a better, more experienced D partner who hopefully doesn’t do that as much will be better for Nemec.
And I think Dougie is very good at playing with Siegenthaler. Even when Siegs has been bad, Dougie plays a pretty simple game himself and seems pretty adept and comfortable at taking any shitty rims or passes he might be getting from him and dealing with them. He’s much better at doing so than Nemec and I want Nemec to have a partner than can help him flourish not potentially drag him down.

 

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I mean we already had Hatakka and DeSimone as depth D. We needed a 3LD and Kovacevic is a RD. This doesn’t feel like a move they’re making to forgo Pesce or 3LD

Looks like a decent depth D playing for peanuts. Played over 60 games last year and was a +11 on Montreal. That’s a good start to the research for me.

And 6’5”. Good lord.

 

[vtdevils2k]

Is Fitz cooking? Clearly has identified we need size

 

[NjDevsRR]

26 4th is nothing


Good job Tom

 

[Better Call Sal]

I’m never opposed to having more solid players. He seemed to play pretty decent for a pretty porous Habs defense.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Nosek is a defense first (or even only) 4th line center. Good faceoff guy, good giveaway takeaway ratio, can play PK.

It's the 4th line, and maybe we can bring in a faster guy with more offensive skill, but I can guarantee it comes at the expense of defense.

Fans are just going to hate on 4th lines though. Heck wasn't too long ago people wanted to move on from McLeod.

I wasn’t one of these guys. I promise you we can do better than a decent defensive guy who can’t skate, hit, stickhandle, or shoot.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Fine add, he's probably gonna be a 7D. We had Brendan Smith as a f***ing regular last year and this guy is way better than him. Fitz and company are probably scared shitless of injuries destroying their season again.

 

[Zacha37]

Nosek is one of the least impactful players I’ve ever seen on the Devils. Hopefully he’s a goner tomorrow. Guy was an absolute 0 on every shift.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Nosek is one of the least impactful players I’ve ever seen on the Devils. Hopefully he’s a goner tomorrow. Guy was an absolute 0 on every shift.

He looked much better in his last month here when he was finally healthy and up to speed

 

[Devilsgrl35]

Goddamn he is 6’5 225

Fitz has a type.

 

[Nubmer6]

I don’t Novo if is going on more than other insiders’ reporting.

He also thought there was “a strong chance” for us to trade for Necas at the draft.

It wouldn't surprise me if we had a deal set up for Necas, but called it off when Silayev dropped to us. I guess we'll never know.

 

[Hisch13r]

Fine add, he's probably gonna be a 7D. We had Brendan Smith as a f***ing regular last year and this guy is way better than him. Fitz and company are probably scared shitless of injuries destroying their season again.

Hopefully he starts focusing that attention up front soon. We have 7 NHL D now without the Pesce and 3LD stuff. We barely have more than 7 quality forwards right now lol

 

[NjDevsRR]

Kovacevic and Cotter are solid players on league minimum contracts. Players like these helps