Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part III

[Its Always Sundstrom]

Top goalie coaches make a real difference.

Mitch Korn (66) and Allaire brothers (Benoit, 60, and Francois, 68) are all deservedly legendary and arguably Hall of Fame worthy.

Then there’s Ian Clark (66) in Vancouver, Bob Essensa (59) in Boston, Sean Burke (57) in Vegas, Sudarshan Maharaj (60) in Anaheim.

Those are just the biggest names, I don’t know the new top goalie coaches, but these guys for sure have made discernible differences for teams.

There’s been a lot of growth in both the coaching and management of the NHL as it just recently started to get the attention it deserved.

Directors of Goaltending chose which goalies the teams pursue and, along with the coach, shape how those goalies play.

In his defense, there were times when Rogalski had almost nothing to work with, like in 2021-22. Not in his defense, guys seem to get coached up in Utica and then deteriorate up here.

The goaltending in 2023-24 was bad and a lot is riding on it in 2024-25, not sure I would go in with the coaching staff for goalies.

Nilsson calls himself a Development Coach for the Devils on Instagram, so I guess he’s that. That was Rogalski’s job in St Louis before we hired him here.

Corey Schwab in Utah now?

 

[AfroThunder396]

He played just 1 regular season game. And apparently I was at it. It was in Tampa and it was the second to last game of the 14-15 season.

Seth Helgeson and Mark Fraser also dressed on defense that game. Having those three on defense in the same game definitely had to be a contender for worst 3 defensemen in the same game in Devils history.

Stefan Matteau also dressed that game lol.

And in keeping with the theme of reading things wrong, I first read Steve Bernier as Sergei Brylin and was like “Brylin was still in the NHL in the mid 2010s? Really?”.

I remember watching Zubrus in his first year with NJ and thinking that Brylin's career with us was over. Zubrus did everything that Brylin did but better. He was bigger, faster, FAR stronger, better on the forecheck. Played PK and had C/W flex. He was Brylin on steroids and made Sarge totally obsolete.

 

[Guadana]

I remember Hrabarenka because in our community we had one belorussian guy of angry type who was saying time after time that Sharangovich will never be NHL player because you know we already saw it with Hrabarenka.

 

[Devs3cups]

Feels good to be a liked team I suppose!

 

[Andre Palot]

Feels good to be a liked team I suppose!

I think what shocks me the most is that the Oilers are in the top f***ing ten and not the bottom.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Oilers have a history of being dogshit as hell for at least part of this millennium and having dudes who are super cool to watch play

I’m not super surprised

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Feels good to be a liked team I suppose!

This team has a lot of skill and exciting hockey and 0 assholes. There's no reason to hate them unless you're a Rags fan.

 

[tailfins]

This team has a lot of skill and exciting hockey and 0 assholes. There's no reason to hate them unless you're a Rags fan.

Also a reason why the team is unlikely to win anything substantial.

Need to find a Lemieux, Holik, even Madden type asshole to add to the team. Still holding out some hope for Stillman, though he didn’t seem to really deliver on that in the AHL last year.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Poor Lumbus lmao shit at everything

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Also a reason why the team is unlikely to win anything substantial.

Need to find a Lemieux, Holik, even Madden type asshole to add to the team. Still holding out some hope for Stillman, though he didn’t seem to really deliver on that in the AHL last year.

they just added like 3 of those types of guys within the past 2 weeks lol

some of you just like to complain about anything and everything

 

[Billdo]

Also a reason why the team is unlikely to win anything substantial.

Need to find a Lemieux, Holik, even Madden type asshole to add to the team. Still holding out some hope for Stillman, though he didn’t seem to really deliver on that in the AHL last year.

Like Cotter, Noesen, and Dillon?

 

[njdevils1982]

Poor Lumbus lmao shit at everything

nicholson grin gif.

 

[tailfins]

Like Cotter, Noesen, and Dillon?

We’ll see.

Noesen is willing to go to the dirty areas, but he’s a pretty clean player.

I don’t know much about Cotter. But, he also seems like a reasonably clean player.

Dillon seems to play more on the edge. But, again I don’t know that much about him. I’m not sure how many of those PIMs are from getting beat vs pushing the envelope.

My sense is that we do not yet have an asshole on the team.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Hrabarenka, Mozik, Stollery and Warsofsky. The mid 2010s were tough times.

 

[TrufleShufle]

We’ll see.

Noesen is willing to go to the dirty areas, but he’s a pretty clean player.

I don’t know much about Cotter. But, he also seems like a reasonably clean player.

Dillon seems to play more on the edge. But, again I don’t know that much about him. I’m not sure how many of those PIMs are from getting beat vs pushing the envelope.

My sense is that we do not yet have an asshole on the team.

We don't, but assholes who can play well enough to not only not be a minus to the team but have their play actually contribute as well, are very hard to find.

The Brad Marchands and Tom Wilsons are rare, there are a lot more out there who could fit the bill, but very few who wouldn't end up pissing us off more than the other team 40 games in after the excitement of watching other teams get pissed off dies down.

 

[Billdo]

Hrabarenka, Mozik, Stollery and Warsofsky. The mid 2010s were tough times.

Don't forget Auvitu, Taormina, Foster, Harrold, Fraser, Helgeson, Schlemko (he was actually kinda good iirc), Prout, Kapla, Gryba, and Yakovlev. We had a decade of trash sprinkled with some John Moore, Jesus Lovejoy, Severson (<3), etc.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Don't forget Auvitu, Taormina, Foster, Harrold, Fraser, Helgeson, Schlemko (he was actually kinda good iirc), Prout, Kapla, Gryba, and Yakovlev. We had a decade of trash sprinkled with some John Moore, Jesus Lovejoy, Severson (<3), etc.

 

[MadDevil]

 

[Mr Bojanglez]

Feels good to be a liked team I suppose!

all my homies hate Colorado

Edit: Poor Columbus. There is no hate there. just peeps that won't root for them.

 

[BostonDevil]

Feels good to be a liked team I suppose!

Boston. Not. Low. Enough.

 

[Billdo]

I was going to put him but thought that was too obvious. Man he had a bomb from the point though.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Don't forget Auvitu, Taormina, Foster, Harrold, Fraser, Helgeson, Schlemko (he was actually kinda good iirc), Prout, Kapla, Gryba, and Yakovlev. We had a decade of trash sprinkled with some John Moore, Jesus Lovejoy, Severson (<3), etc.

No love for Kalinin? Disappointed

 

[NjDevsRR]

No love for Kalinin? Disappointed

 

[Xirik]

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If that is shown in the night sky the nose should at least be censored.

 

[Billdo]

No love for Kalinin? Disappointed

Defensemen if you didn't notice. The list is way longer for forwards.