Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part II

[Patrik26]

Or it could be Bratt knowing he’s gonna win the arb hearing regardless so why bother negotiating a one year deal?

Very true. I see many here think somewhere in the middle, around 5.5, but I think it's going to be higher at 6, so I guess Bratt wins to some degree.

 

[HBK27]

Lol, while I get that some of us are inhaling copium right now (myself included), I don’t see it as such a reach.

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Our position here might be better than we think.

It would be the second straight negotiation that the two sides couldn't reach an agreement on a long-term (or even mid-term contract). I would not be optimistic that the 3rd times a charm.

Also, it's beneficial to this team to have a higher cap hit this season (when they can easily absorb it) and thus lowering it in later seasons when they should be contending and cap-strapped.

Hopefully Fitz has a few pots of coffee brewing and hammers this out tonight, but my optimism is fading quickly.

Even Seravalli's comments about thinking they get something done were purely based on the logic that you don't want to let a good player get to arbitration, as he said the two sides have long been far apart.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Last Seravalli rumor I fell for:

 

[billingtons ghost]

I don't know, Blackwood's save percentage over his last 55 games is a dreadful .893%. That's not a small sample set at all.

Rumor has it that 50 year old Marty Brodeur was considering a comeback to see if he could somehow try and do better than that.

And by the way, I know what you were posting here wasn't about Blackwood.

That's less than a season. 55 games is not enough too get a true picture. I was posting in response to the negativity on blackwood, that's it.

 

[Homedresser]

I bet it was below 7 mill

Many here are saying it's about Term but IS IT REALLY?

no

 

[jkrdevil]

No shit. None of these things actually gets to arbitration anymore. The question is what the deal will be. A One year settlement or multiple years.

 

[FooteBahl]

Woah hang on a minute here. You and your wife are both lawyers? I did not know that. Now I understand why people here joke about wanting you to adopt them lol.

Lay off of my dad!!!

 

[JimEIV]

Each minute that goes by today I feel more and more that Bratt has to go


Regardless of the outcome.

 

[HBK27]

Not a great list...

The Lemieux case was unique in that he had signed a contract and then tried to go back on it. He was traded within days of the arbitration ruling in NJ's favor.

Rolston was traded a month into the season after his arbitration hearing (ironically for Lemieux).

As the tweet mentioned, Sykora lasted a year before being shipped out.

The other 3 all bolted for UFA first chance they could get.

 

[NJDevs26]

Not a great list...

The Lemieux case was unique in that he had signed a contract and then tried to go back on it. He was traded within days of the arbitration ruling in NJ's favor.

Rolston was traded a month into the season after his arbitration hearing (ironically for Lemieux).

As the tweet mentioned, Sykora lasted a year before being shipped out.

The other 3 all bolted for UFA first chance they could get.

Four of them did come back for a second go-around at least lol

 

[HBK27]

Four of them did come back for a second go-around at least lol

Actually five of them...all but the HOFer.

 

[My3Sons]

Woah hang on a minute here. You and your wife are both lawyers? I did not know that. Now I understand why people here joke about wanting you to adopt them lol.

She's a divorce lawyer. The jokers conveniently leave out that part.

 

[Nubmer6]

Woah hang on a minute here. You and your wife are both lawyers? I did not know that. Now I understand why people here joke about wanting you to adopt them lol.

I thought it was for the stupid dad jokes.

 

[tailfins]

That's less than a season. 55 games is not enough too get a true picture. I was posting in response to the negativity on blackwood, that's it.

Disagree. 55 games is pretty much normal starter workload. Very few 70+ game seasons now.

If youre saying a single season isn’t enough - that goalies can go up and down in a year - I understand that

 

[jkrdevil]

The most recent one is Gomez the year after the lockout. That list is fairly irrelevant today. It’s only relevance is that it shows that these things never actually get to a hearing.

Actually five of them...all but the HOFer.

IIRC, they didn’t really argue much in the Niedermayer case. It was just the offseason heading into the year long lockout that would completely change the economic system.

 

[My3Sons]

I thought it was for the stupid dad jokes.

Those terrible jokes are gold Jerry, gold!

 

[OmNomNom]

it's 10:30 in sweden


do you know where your bratt contract is?

 

[JimEIV]

Holik and Gomez both made comment about the grass not always being greener. I think both were happy with the business side of their decision but regretted the playing side.

The Rangers were like the Devils players pension fund.

 

[severian]

Holik and Gomez both made comment about the grass not always being greener. I think both were happy with the business side of their decision but regretted the playing side.

The Rangers were like the Devils players pension fund.

Holik and Gomez would have been out of their minds to refuse those insane NYR deals.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

it's 10:30 in sweden


do you know where your bratt contract is?

 

[Emperoreddy]

Just do the one year deal. Use the extra cap space next off season to pay him the AAV he wants.

 

[Bad Goalie]

Numbers are:

Year One: Two-way, $750,000 | $175,000
Year Two: One-way, $775,000

Good deal for us. Presumably Tyce will be in the AHL to start the season, but it's not inconceivable he out-competes Zetterlund for a spot.

And if that never comes to pass, he makes $775K next season in the AHL. OR he gets traded and somebody else has to pay him the $775K. He did right for himself.

 

[njdevil26]

So this has to happen pretty soon right?

 

[My3Sons]

Just do the one year deal. Use the extra cap space next off season to pay him the AAV he wants.

I am skeptical it is that simple. Why not give him the AAV now and save a few dollars? If he has another good year the AAV only goes up. At this point if Fitz needs to see another good year out of Bratt to justify paying him then the team can't properly evaluate its own talent in my view.

 

[OmNomNom]

So this has to happen pretty soon right?

i'm pretty skeptical it happens tonight -- last chance would be for fitz to call in the morning (when it's noon-ish in sweden, they're +6 hrs)