There really aren't any available. Paul Stastny, I guess, but why does he come here? Calle Jarnkrok can play center but he's been shifted to wing mostly. That's it. Trocheck and Copp are not 3rd line centers and won't sign for anything close to 3C money.
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There really aren't any available. Paul Stastny, I guess, but why does he come here? Calle Jarnkrok can play center but he's been shifted to wing mostly. That's it. Trocheck and Copp are not 3rd line centers and won't sign for anything close to 3C money.
I don't think there is a goalie available that fits that criteria. Campbell? Kuemper? Husso? They are all more or less varying degrees of maybe.
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Trade Blackwood to Toronto and sign both Campebell and Husso, f*** it
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A 33 point pace/82 games has no business being 3C? He's fine if he maintains that play we saw in the 2nd half. His underlying numbers are fine too. He was no longer under water.
We aren't throwing massive money at Strome, Trochek or Copp.
Kuemper could probably get you close but that’s really it as someone you’d count on. The rest are question marks. Maybe Fleury but he’s turning 38, wasn’t all that great last year, and why would he want to come here.
I also think it’s dumb to just write Blackwood off entirely and say he sucks and that a bounce back can’t happen. He’s played hurt for the better part of 2 years. We have no clue how he’ll perform going forward. Could suck. Could also be good. At least he has shown he’s capable of being a high end performer in the past.
I can understand the hesitancy with Blackwood. Hopefully he bounces back. If he's physically healthy and can avoid controversy we can see what he's still capable of. The problem is you shouldn't pencil him in as the starter. Even if he rebounds, they probably try to trade him for another goalie. I could see an MBW-Helleybuck swap after next season if MBW bounces back.
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Yeah I'm totally fine keeping Blackwood and hoping he can bounce back, I think he has the tools to be a great starter. But they absolutely need to bring in a legit 1b goalie as a safety net.
If he rebounds then just keep him. He’ll be 26. I’d rather just keep the 26 year old than move him for the 30 year old. I have a hard time believing the relationship is broken beyond repair. If he bounces back we’ll be a good team and he’ll be in line for a payday. I imagine both sides would be pleased with that.
Maybe. Idk
At this point I wouldn’t really feel comfortable with him as the 1A. I’d be bringing in a 1A and have Blackwood as the 1B
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i’ve been suggesting a yesteryear circle jerk thread for years, where people can wax nostalgic about oliwa and madden and seeing 2 nickelodeons for a nickel…it’s not happening
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I’ve suggested something like this, but people always say we’re not gonna bring in two goalies.
We probably won’t, but it’s happened before that a team brings in two new goalies in one off-season and if any team really needs bring in two new goalies in one off-season, then it’s definitely us.
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Kuemper might have another good year or two left in him, but I think he could be poor as early as next year. I wouldn’t want him because I bet we’d have to sign him for 3-4 years.
And as I’ve said repeatedly, I’m highly skeptical a healthy Blackwood will be a good goalie. His 17-18 AHL season was terrible and I remember the endless debate (which I didn’t take a side in, just as an observer) that historically there weren’t many goalies to have that poor of an AHL season that went on to have good NHL career. His entire AHL career was pretty mediocre. His first year was decent, but second year was historically bad and his third year was below average, although he did play well in the NHL that very same year.
I wouldn’t really say he’s ever been a high end performer, but that all depends on what your definition of high end performer is. He had a solid 18-19 season, but only played 25 games and was not really the starter at any point that year. He had a solid 19-20 as the mostly starter, but at this point he’s had more mediocre seasons as a pro hockey goalie than even average ones.
Emperoreddy
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Expect it's not as it just puts this garbage in another thread.
Instead the rest of you should actually use the forum tools like report functions and putting people on ignore.
Also stop taking the bait. We do 10 pages of this because everyone keeps responding to it
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One alarming trait/weakness of Blackwood's I picked up this year was he doesn't seem to have a good knack of seeing the puck on screen shots, a lot of times when he loses sight of it he just flops down instead of using his size to his advantage.
I was sold on him before last year, now I'm back on the fence.
I was sold on him before last year, now I'm back on the fence.
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One of the worst games Blackwood played this year was the season finale.
3 of the 4 goals were not good. They weren’t pathetic softies, but they were shots that should have been hitting him.
I know we can’t say just because he sucked his last two games which were his first two from a big 3 month injury lay-off, that it’s indicative that he’ll be bad next year. Just like if he allowed only 1 goal combined in those games it’s not indicative of him being good and everything being behind him, but that season finale reminded me of everything wrong with him.
To be fair, he allowed 5 goals to Ottawa in his first game back and I didn’t think he played all that poorly that game. I remember just one bad goal and it was on the power play.
That Detroit game was just lousy and terrible. Dougie Hamilton took him out on one goal and he was on his knees with his back turned to play as the puck was going in. I can’t fault him for that one, as he was taken out by his own guy, but the other three goals were not good.
It was really sad because I remember saying in that GDT “Welp, his save percentage is up abovr 900% again for this game, so here comes another goal against shortly!” And it just kept happening.
3 of the 4 goals were not good. They weren’t pathetic softies, but they were shots that should have been hitting him.
I know we can’t say just because he sucked his last two games which were his first two from a big 3 month injury lay-off, that it’s indicative that he’ll be bad next year. Just like if he allowed only 1 goal combined in those games it’s not indicative of him being good and everything being behind him, but that season finale reminded me of everything wrong with him.
To be fair, he allowed 5 goals to Ottawa in his first game back and I didn’t think he played all that poorly that game. I remember just one bad goal and it was on the power play.
That Detroit game was just lousy and terrible. Dougie Hamilton took him out on one goal and he was on his knees with his back turned to play as the puck was going in. I can’t fault him for that one, as he was taken out by his own guy, but the other three goals were not good.
It was really sad because I remember saying in that GDT “Welp, his save percentage is up abovr 900% again for this game, so here comes another goal against shortly!” And it just kept happening.
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I do think when defenses are scrambly in front of goalies the the goalies also get more scrambly in response.
When goalies are more confident in where there defenders are then the goalies are more confident in their own positioning.
So if a goalie is feeling like the defense isn’t to be trusted in general, I think you see a lot more of them going down early as the most comfortable all purpose position.
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3C isn't a huge issue - if/when we get to arguing about 3C, we're probably already a competitor
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I dunno man, to switch to football terms it kind of reminds me of QBs who are good at feeling the pressure around a pocket and those who don't, it's an instinct you can't teach. I'm sure a good defense in front of a goalie helps, but at the end of the day they either have a knack for it or they don't.
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Yeah he does get beat on a lot of ''Screens'' that really shouldn't be screens.
Every time I remembered screaming about it at least one person would tell me how he was screened and this and that.
Bottom line is that the bad goalies get beaten on these ''Screens'' much more than the goalies that aren't getting beaten on them.
There are legit screens where a goalie has no real chance, like when there's bodies actually in front of him, but some of these excuses I see for screens (one or two guys standing 30-40 feet out) are just baffling.
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If you go to a football analogy, almost all QBs look like garbage behind bad offensive lines because they have no idea where the pressure will come from but they know it’s coming.
Devils goalies had slot receivers trying to play Center and Guard and then the coaching staff wondering why the slot receivers weren’t performing better in those roles.
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I like Lehner, but he's a bit of a headcase and has stirred the pot quite a bit with things, like claiming to have outted teams for handing out painkillers (even strangely implicating Alain Vigneault and we never heard anything else about that ever again) and other such controversy.
I actually like guys like Lehner that open their mouths and speak out about things, as long as it's legit and for good cause and nothing dangerous. I can see why the organization and a lot of the league doesn't like a personality like this.
He also appears to be breaking down with injuries, but whatever was ailing him he performed vastly better than Blackwood (or anybody else here) last year. He performed league average.
I really thought he could be available if DeBoer stayed, but with DeBoer gone now, it seems like all is good with him and the Golden Knights organization, but you can never underestimate their want to get rid of a guy like him in a cap dump as a means to chase another shiny new toy with his salary. But when they did that with Fleury, they had him back there as a more than good enough insurance policy. Logan Thompson hasn't played enough games in the NHL to really give you enough confidence that he'd be an adequate enough replacement to Lehner and Brossoit isn't any good.
I actually like guys like Lehner that open their mouths and speak out about things, as long as it's legit and for good cause and nothing dangerous. I can see why the organization and a lot of the league doesn't like a personality like this.
He also appears to be breaking down with injuries, but whatever was ailing him he performed vastly better than Blackwood (or anybody else here) last year. He performed league average.
I really thought he could be available if DeBoer stayed, but with DeBoer gone now, it seems like all is good with him and the Golden Knights organization, but you can never underestimate their want to get rid of a guy like him in a cap dump as a means to chase another shiny new toy with his salary. But when they did that with Fleury, they had him back there as a more than good enough insurance policy. Logan Thompson hasn't played enough games in the NHL to really give you enough confidence that he'd be an adequate enough replacement to Lehner and Brossoit isn't any good.
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Idk if the injuries or the concussion lead to him second guessing himself more. He also has always had an eye issue.
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