GDT: #12 | Bruins vs Flyers | Saturday, November 2, 2024 | 1:00 PM | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

[Beef Invictus]

It's one thing to take chances in the O-zone, where the benefit should outweigh the cost.
It's quite another to take chances in the neutral zone and D-zone where the reward is less and the risk is higher.
You want Michkov to be aggressive, you don't want him to be stupid.

To play smart hockey, he needs time to understand what he can get away with at this level and when he shouldn't force things. That comes with experience.

I'd point out that TB, a first class organization, brought Kucherov along much slower than Torts is doing with Michkov.
Right now he's playing 18:10 and 14:25 at ES, 2nd to only TK.
And you can see the impact on him. He's not as explosive as he was starting the season.
So Torts should sit him a game here and there, and have him skip some shifts.

The Flyers do not deserve this level of benefit of the doubt considering how they cleanse all prospects of creativity over time.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Which is why they drafted Luchanko and will draft at least one more center this summer.
Same on defense, they drafted Bonk and will draft at least one more D-man this summer.

But you don't need to add a half dozen top six forwards, two solid centers, pushing Frost down to 3C and Couts to LW would make the top 9 much better. Same on defense, add another D-man to pair with Bonk and Andrae, Drysdale, etc. become 3rd pair candidates.

They don't have to hit on every pick this summer, just land 2-3 top 6/top 4 guys and you can whiff or end up with bottom of the roster players with the other picks.

Drafting another 3C isn't going to fix their talent issues.

 

[Larry44]

The Flyers organization deserves nothing but scorn. They can take their room, culture and Gritty dolls and f*** off.

Amen!

 

[Larry44]

So let’s say they draft a center with their pick this year. Next season Luchanko will be 19 and the 2025 draft pick will be 18. Unless their pick is Hagens, the draft pick probably isn’t on the team till he’s around 20. Same with Luchanko. And it will take the players a couple seasons at the minimum most likely till they can be top 6 centers. Let’s say that happens when they are 22, which is somewhat optimistic. That’s 4 years from this season. There is no players coming in to fix this mess right away. Until Luchanko, Bonk, the 2025 nhl draftees are in the NHL for a few seasons the Flyers will have no help coming and no one that can fill shoes adequately

This. They could turn a corner by 2028 and be Cup-Competitive by 2030. Anyone thinking they are a tweak away from contention or that the rebuild is really over is deluding themselves. They SHOULD have really tanked a few years ago, then they might be on the way up by now. Now, they need to swim to the bottom for a couple years and do a proper rebuild.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

This. They could turn a corner by 2028 and be Cup-Competitive by 2030. Anyone thinking they are a tweak away from contention or that the rebuild is really over is deluding themselves. They SHOULD have really tanked a few years ago, then they might be on the way up by now. Now, they need to swim to the bottom for a couple years and do a proper rebuild.

I suppose it’s better late than never. The worst possible moves would be trading for or signing top 6 and top 4 talent. They just need to ride this out till they can fill big holes on the team with draftees. 3-4 years of a top 5 picks can go a long way

 

[DAVIDE1333]

This. They could turn a corner by 2028 and be Cup-Competitive by 2030. Anyone thinking they are a tweak away from contention or that the rebuild is really over is deluding themselves. They SHOULD have really tanked a few years ago, then they might be on the way up by now. Now, they need to swim to the bottom for a couple years and do a proper rebuild.

What is sad is just because they could turn the corner by 2028 doesn't mean they will. Not many of their recent moves make me believe this will be the case.

 

[Larry44]

What is sad is just because they could turn the corner by 2028 doesn't mean they will. Not many of their recent moves make me believe this will be the case.

Agreed, the management clown car does not inspire confidence. I’ve been a fan for 52 years and I don’t think I’ll live to see another Cup no matter how long I live.

 

[BiggE]

This. They could turn a corner by 2028 and be Cup-Competitive by 2030. Anyone thinking they are a tweak away from contention or that the rebuild is really over is deluding themselves. They SHOULD have really tanked a few years ago, then they might be on the way up by now. Now, they need to swim to the bottom for a couple years and do a proper rebuild.

They won’t be competing for a Cup anytime soon because the current management team is incompetent. The only moves I expect them to make between now and the draft are swapping Frost for a 3rd round pick in January and flipping EJ for a 6th at the deadline.

Then after (hopefully) landing a legit prospect with their top 10 1st, I fully expect them to trade one of their remaining firsts for an aging center who used to be a borderline 1C but is now barely a 2C and use the other to draft a Dman with size.

They will improve enough by 2027-28 to sneak into the playoffs a few times over the next half dozen or so seasons but they’ll be lucky to win a round and, by 2033-34, they’ll be right back where they were in 2022.

The organization is a dumpster fire.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

They won’t be competing for a Cup anytime soon because the current management team is incompetent. The only moves I expect them to make between now and the draft are swapping Frost for a 3rd round pick in January and flipping EJ for a 6th at the deadline.

Then after (hopefully) landing a legit prospect with their top 10 1st, I fully expect them to trade one of their remaining firsts for an aging center who used to be a borderline 1C but is now barely a 2C and use the other to draft a Dman with size.

They will improve enough by 2027-28 to sneak into the playoffs a few times over the next half dozen or so seasons but they’ll be lucky to win a round and, by 2033-34, they’ll be right back where they were in 2022.

The organization is a dumpster fire.

facts check out.

 

[BiggE]

Based on tiebreakers the Flyers are currently 31st. C’mon boys, 32nd is there for the taking!