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I always liked JD honestly, he’s a good character and fairly unbiased. I always thought Micheletti was alright too until he was plopped into the MSG booth.
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I always liked JD honestly, he’s a good character and fairly unbiased. I always thought Micheletti was alright too until he was plopped into the MSG booth.
Holy shit dude. You tried to be super pedantic by pointing out that 'Josh Anderson at double retention is a good value!' and then you're going to post this in response. Jfc you're insufferable.
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I would send a PTO to Tatar and have him fight Holtz for last spot.
He could also be fall back insurance if Fitz sends Holtz to Winnipeg for Hellebuyck.
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I've been thinking this. Idk why but I just have some odd feeling Holtz will miss this year. I pray I'm wrong & he makes me eat my words. If he does miss & we don't have a backup option, I really don't know who gets that 3rd line spot. Do we promote Bastian?
Tatar seems Pittsburgh bound unless someone comes out of the blue and gives him the multi year deal he wants. I imagine they think one of Foote, Holtz, or Clarke shows out in camp and is good enough to take the spot. At this point I’d like to just give Holtz some real run. If he works great. If he doesn’t then trade for someone
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I don't think Bastian gets promoted nor Nosek or Lazar or Tierney or Foote.
I think the most likely lineup change if Holtz doesn't make the team is actually Huala gets bumped up again to play with Hughes. One of Toffoli or Meier or Mercer plays 3rd line. And probably (gulp) McLeod plays 3C and Nosek 4C.
Purely my speculation, if Ruff wants to consider a Palat-McLeod combo like they did on the PK in the playoffs.
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Disagree. If the coaching staff have concerns about Holtz for skating or defense, which is why they chose not to play him; then they will have same concerns about Foote and Clarke. Holtz is more advanced than those two.
If Clarke is chosen as a 3rd line option ahead of Holtz, then you might as well trade Holtz out of the organization before his value tanks further.
Holtz should be better but I have a hard time believing Holtz is the only guy they think can reasonable take that spot. They’d likely have brought in someone else already to compete for it. They wouldn’t be hoping they can get Tatar to come in on a PTO. I’m also not preemptively trading for what would likely be a worse package than Newhook got because I’m scared he won’t ge the spot and his value would drop. I’d rather give Holtz a chance to work than get some darts to throw at guys who will be ready in a few years that would likely project worse than Holtz
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I agree. Give Holtz his cup of coffee. This is the season where we see what we have in him. If he misses this season I think it will be the nail in the coffin & he gets traded.
I posted weeks back that I feel we can roll with it. After McLeod shined in the playoffs he might of found some confidence. If I was Ruff I would ride that high & see if McLeod can play consistently at that level. If he's able to be the man he was in the playoffs then he would be a good 3rd line center. If McLeod can be that man we would have 3 nasty lines.
Meier-Nico-Bratt
Haula-Hughes-Mercer/Toffoli
Palat-Mcleod-Toffoli/Mercer
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Lazar
I would feel very comfortable with that IF McLeod has leveled up. It's a huge if, but the gamble would be worth it if successful.
Far far better chance McLeod is off the team than a legit 3rd liner. We've seen more than enough to know that he's nothing more than a fine 4th liner. He can't shoot a puck to save his life and legitimately has one of the worst shots in the entire league and he's not a good defensive player at 5v5 either. Even in these playoffs that people praise him for he wasn't controlling play
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I agree which is why I put if in big capitals but, hey who knows. Never underestimate the power of confidence/psychology when it comes to sport players. If a player all of a sudden starts playing at a next level better than ever, next season they come in with this newfound confidence. With this new confidence they try doing things they've never tried before & make riskier plays. It's one of those things where you say to yourself I've done it once, I'll do it again. Believe yourself to be a 4th liner & you'll always be one, but think like your a 3rd liner & it can possibly be achieved. He may not have the best shot but if he has Palat/Toffoli on his line all he has to do is use his speed to gain the zone, hold it in the O Zone long enough for his line mates to get into position & he can rack up some assists. If McLeod plays with some confidence & he gets 2 offensive players in Palat/Toffoli he might be able to do some damage. Call me a crazy man but I believe it. Far crazier things have happened. We already seen him do it for 2 rounds in the playoffs. So it isn't that farfetched.
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i was responding to someone who brought up double retention. No where was a return noted. Who the eff knows what a return would be? You certainly don’t. And it wasn’t noted because no one actually thinks we are trading for Anderson.
You calling me pedantic is ironically rich.
Most of those names don't surprise me. Stepan kind of does.
Not that I think we should sign him, but wasn't he still pretty good very recently? Or does he have some injury, or hit a steep decline that I'm unaware of?
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Different countries, different cultures. Again, part of what other contries doing is looking ridiculos for them too. And yeah, I would not forgive them too. Dogs and cats our our friends and companions.
Installation and configuration of communication equipment, electrics, Internet. It was fun to install antennas on 100-meter towers. The equipment is heavy, sometimes oversized. But the view was beautiful. But I'm glad that's in the past.
I hope you are doing some stretching or yoga. This helps to relieve tension from the muscles and unclench the compressed nerves. I understand that perhaps at your age it is much more difficult.
I had good parents. Therefore, everything was experienced more or less normally.
Yeah, I don`t think that Mcleod as a third line center is a good idea too. May be he can handle it, but in perfect world he is our 4th line center because of his limitations. He can fight for the puck and win battles, but he isn`t skill and smart player. Better to have him lower in the roster.
I know pedantry, and I know that if I argued the same shit you were arguing there - something which I've certainly done - I would've pointed out 'oh, actually, double retention is really expensive so it's stupid to even consider it in this case'.
To pivot on a dime from one post arguing that Josh Anderson is a value at double retention to then get all huffy and sarcastic when I point out that no, he isn't, is why you are insufferable.
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I think he’s overrated by Devils fans and has gotten underrated by neutral fans
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Man I remember reading this blog, turns out the guy moved onto a less trolly name/site 10(?!) years ago: Brodeur is a Fraud. He was being "contrarian" but his arguments were not idiotic.
I find Brodeur to be all over the map in terms of ratings. I would not say he's the best of all time. He was one of the best of his era, and his consistency was a major source of stability for a decade plus. Add to that his puckhandling (which is not captured in raw sv% stats) enabling the Devils to play their game + inspiring a rule change and you have to put him in the top 5 of all time I say. Given how goaltending is tending toward Goaltending by committee, with guys basically spending 5-7 years marinating then getting maybe 5 years of peak performance splitting the net with another guy and I think there's a chance his all time wins record never gets toppled, which means he'll be listed among the best of all time for a very long time.
www.hockey-reference.com
The issue ultimately is in 2001 he lost to Roy, and Hasek/Roy have better pure stats during his era and wins is a team stat. Hard to refute no matter how many "goaltending is about quality starts/consistency and his puckhandling separated him" arguments you make.
I find Brodeur to be all over the map in terms of ratings. I would not say he's the best of all time. He was one of the best of his era, and his consistency was a major source of stability for a decade plus. Add to that his puckhandling (which is not captured in raw sv% stats) enabling the Devils to play their game + inspiring a rule change and you have to put him in the top 5 of all time I say. Given how goaltending is tending toward Goaltending by committee, with guys basically spending 5-7 years marinating then getting maybe 5 years of peak performance splitting the net with another guy and I think there's a chance his all time wins record never gets toppled, which means he'll be listed among the best of all time for a very long time.
NHL & WHA Career Leaders and Records for Wins | Hockey-Reference.com
1. Martin Brodeur (691), 2. Marc-André Fleury (561), 3. Patrick Roy (551), 4. Roberto Luongo (489), 5. Ed Belfour (484), 6. Henrik Lundqvist (459), 7. Curtis Joseph (454), 8. Terry Sawchuk (445), 9. Jacques Plante (437), 10. Tony Esposito (423)
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The issue ultimately is in 2001 he lost to Roy, and Hasek/Roy have better pure stats during his era and wins is a team stat. Hard to refute no matter how many "goaltending is about quality starts/consistency and his puckhandling separated him" arguments you make.
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I’m a devils fan but I can admit that dom was better on a way way way crappier team.
Marty did have longevity going for him though
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