Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023 offseason part II

[Cheddabombs]

Is Marino meant to be Tangela? I love Tangela

 

[Classic Devil]

Wow, Mew and Mewtwo? I thought we were setup pretty well but this really puts it into perspective!

Honestly, Mew, Mewtwo, Starmie, Exeggutor, and Zapdos is pretty close to an ideal Gen 1 competitive team...

(How Colin Miller gets to be Starmie, I have no idea.)

I also like Mercer being Machoke. He could evolve! (I'm going to ignore the fact that according to the rules, evolution would require a trade.)

 

[devilsblood]

They also pretty comfortably go first over Power. Reinbacher is definitely a tier below though in my opinion.

I get that fwd's are more predictable then d-men, and I get the "knock" on Power as he is more stable then dynamic(Nemec probably falls into that category as well), but Luke Hughes is as dynamic as any of these guys short of Bedard, and now he has a couple years of high end play at the college level.

Should also be noted Fantilli benefited by being an older draftee in a mans body playing college hockey. Leo benefits from being a huge kid on the older end of the draft year spectrum as well. Hughes was a young draftee, and is still growing into his frame. Very possibly the best skater in the group.

I'm pretty confident he has as high an upside of any of them, has 2 years of proven high end play post draft, and shown his dynamic potential in playoff hockey and the NHL level.

 

[Ripshot 43]

My 7 year old just read the last page full of Pokémon material here and called you all “dorks”.

 

[devilsblood]

My 7 year old just read the last page full of Pokémon material here and called you all “dorks”.

Make sure she's aware I wasn't involved in said discussion.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

we signed Nosek



more bad news for McLeod

 

[FinnishDevil]

I love the Nosek pickup if its under 1 million. Solid bottom 6 guy.

 

[devilsblood]

we signed Nosek



more bad news for McLeod

Bad news only if Devils signed him because they think McLeod is going to jail/suspended.

Doubt he's slotting above an available McLeod otherwise.

 

[jkrdevil]

we signed Nosek



more bad news for McLeod

They had a slot to fill for a $1 million depth forward and this is it. And if you sign depth forwards you want guys who can play center in case of injuries.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

C depth no longer a problem at all, even without McLoad. 59% faceoffs btw.

 

[jkrdevil]

I love the Nosek pickup if its under 1 million. Solid bottom 6 guy.

1 year, $1 million per the release

 

[Billdo]

we signed Nosek



more bad news for McLeod

Certainly doesn't sound good.

 

[DevilsHughes86]

Nosek and Tierney are good depth guys and always come in handy in the regulation season. Better off having them then trading picks for them come deadline

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Pure defense depth C that wins faceoffs and kills penalties



This one seems like an actual signal that McLeod might be going bye bye.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Anyone have some fancy analytic cards pinning him against McLeod?

Pure defense depth C that wins faceoffs and kills penalties



This one seems like an actual signal that McLeod might be going bye bye.

Played through a lot of injuries last year as well. I'd love to see his 2021-22 numbers.

 

[devilsblood]

Pure defense depth C that wins faceoffs and kills penalties



This one seems like an actual signal that McLeod might be going bye bye.

Or that he is going to be the 3rd line center.

But it does look like too many 4th line centers on the roster.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

This is XG%
Playing thru an injury last year, yes please! If he bounces back he is an upgrade at 4th line center.

 

[Hisch13r]

Anyone have some fancy analytic cards pinning him against McLeod?


Played through a lot of injuries last year as well. I'd love to see his 2021-22 numbers.

Nosek last year (wasn't on this years page) vs McLeod this year. They're both just guys

 

[devilsblood]

Anyone have some fancy analytic cards pinning him against McLeod?


Played through a lot of injuries last year as well. I'd love to see his 2021-22 numbers.

Used much more defensively yoy. 14% o-zone start compared 34% year prior. And 71% year before that with Vegas. Took a lot more faceoffs overall with Boston then he did with Vegas.

So Boston deployed him much differently. And then doubled down on his defensive usage in his 2nd year there. So difficult to compare his possession #'s year to year, but, not surprisingly they did sag with that defensive usage.

 

[Rhodes 81]

He was used on more of any energy line rather than a defensive line in Vegas, IIRC. I would argue he may be better than McLeod but it's likely system dependent.

 

[Hisch13r]

I wonder what Suter's going to get. I'd much prefer like 1.5 for Suter vs 1 for Nosek.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

I'm gonna guess the Devils don't have actual information about if a suspension is coming or its length but maybe are protecting themselves here. Depth is good, putting quality NHLers in front of someone like Nolan Foote is good, they aren't rebuilding anymore.

 

[forceten]

We may have surplus NHL forwards who aren't waiver exempt... We may be at risk of waiver claims.

 

[devilsblood]

Nosek last year (wasn't on this years page) vs McLeod this year. They're both just guys

Doesn't factor in usage at all.

Both guys were leaned on very heavily defensively. Nosek's sub 20% offensive zone start is not something a JAG player gets. Nor is top 10 PK toi amongst fwds.

He was used on more of any energy line rather than a defensive line in Vegas, IIRC. I would argue he may be better than McLeod but it's likely system dependent.

Ya, 70% o-zone start says not a defensive line.

 

[Hisch13r]

We may have surplus NHL forwards who aren't waiver exempt... We may be at risk of waiver claims.

They seem to love Foote so I doubt he's waived. Clarke and Holtz are exempt. Bastian's not going down. Not going to lose any sleep over any of the others