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I'd add Holtz to that list as well. Because keeping Toff and trading Holtz would also be profoundly stupid.
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I'd add Holtz to that list as well. Because keeping Toff and trading Holtz would also be profoundly stupid.
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(not that I would do this but that’s probably close to the ask, maybe a conditional 2nd that could turn into a 1st)
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He’s top 50 in the league for goals scored per 60 while playing with very little offensive help.
If I require at least 100 minutes of ice time then he’s 33rd in the league.
So you want Holtz to be a goal scorer and he’s scoring goals
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We get a different goalie for cheaper at the draft and try again next year with a better coach?
Do you really think this is the only chance we’ll have to make the playoffs in the near future?
Shown us that with maturity and playing time he will be a consistent 30 goal 30 assist player in this league.
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You have to assume in 3 years Holtz will still be an NHL player...under cost control....
Markstrom will be in the Villages playing shuffleboard and living an active adult lifestyle.
The only way a trade moving multiple assets out of Mercer, Casey, and Holtz makes sense is if somehow Hanifin is coming back with some threat on his life that makes him sign under $7 million aav. Given that's illegal, I just don't see it unless it's literally one of those assets + Vitek for Markstrom + Hanifin as a rental. I don't see how Markstrom alone pulls a young, productive roster player.
I’m trying to get over this because it’s a fait accompli at this point.
It’s going to be one of those colossally stupid trades that people look back at and go “what on earth were they thinking”
Whatever, just can’t wait for this season to end.
It’s going to be one of those colossally stupid trades that people look back at and go “what on earth were they thinking”
Whatever, just can’t wait for this season to end.
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Uhh no he isn't lol. That stat is from like November. He's 86th below guys like Daniel Sprong, Sam Gagner, Dmitri Vorkonov, Trevor Moore, and Jacob MacDonald.
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Have you seen what our goaltending has done to us this season. That’s why we are desperate
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Holtz hasn’t even remotely earned the right to be mentioned in the same production level as Toff.
Holtz might end up there someday but I doubt it’s with the devils. I rather keep him and deal Casey
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I'm not worried about 3 years from now. I'm worried about winning in the next 3 years.
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Still waiting for some news.... Of anything....
Some of you folks are nuts staying up late for the potential markstrom news. At least, those on east coast time. Haha. Every other timezone gets a pass.
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So holtz maybe puts up 20 a year but we have vitek level goalie for the next 3 years.
If Mercer is included you might as well walk over to nashvilles door and offer him for saros
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Agreed, Mercer for Markstrom makes no sense.
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This is where I get a little lost..what do you mean by "winning".
Just winning 45 games a season? We can do that with any goaltender...or you talking about competing for a championship? I don't think we are in that window yet personally and blowing assets for immediate help when you're not really in contention is setting the organization up for future failures.
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