Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023-24 season part III

[Satans Hockey]

Looks like it's entirely calculated based on instagram following, which probably isn't that reliable.

I'm more curious about season ticket renewals. Crowds have been great this season but if we miss the playoffs and then you add in rising season ticket costs, "inflation" bs everywhere it might not be good on the front. People will still be excited about next season no matter what because this team should have a bright future unless we severely shoot ourselves in the foot.

 

[Guttersniped]

Not even Wawas? Must everything disappoint me?

 

[HoliksGhost]

I would 100% trade Toffoli and elevate Holtz to that role. You lose some goal scoring, but not a TON, and you gain the assets you could use to improve the roster elsewhere in a year I think we all agree even if they scrape the playoffs they don’t do anything of note.

Nope.

 

[Bleedred]

Barnabas also has the naming rights to the practice rink and has for close to the last 10 years.

And it was another health care company (Amerihealth) before that, ever since the arena opened.

Don't even get me started on how much money they're kicking up to the Devils for those naming rights and the jersey ads.

 

[Bad Goalie]

I'll never forget those 2 games, but especially the Russia one.

As kids we would play ball hockey at night in the parking lot of a casket company on our block. It had security lights so the lot was well lit. We were playing the role of the 1960 US gold medal winning Olympic Champions. We won that medal so many times, but it would have to wait 20 years before we got to see it again.

2 of my college teammates, one from Rochester and the other from Ogdensburg, were in my suburban Utica apt. living room. We were like kids again cheering and screaming as the fates produced the unbelievable final results. Then we had to sweat through the start of the Gold Medal game with the Finns.

The games took place during a central NY winter freezing spell unlike any seen since. Can't remember how many days we were below zero for the high and the night lows were off the charts. Global warming has killed those kind of cold snaps. I actually miss them. Those winter nights in that Rochester casket company parking lot saw the thermometer below zero on many a night. Our parents called us insane for being out there for hours, but the belief we were winning Gold made it such a warm night out in the cold. The older you get the clearer the memories of the past become and seem just like yesterday. I don't understand the people who say they'd never want to do it over again. I'd grab my wife and leap into that time machine and do it all over again as long as I was guaranteed it would repeat the exact same script. She lived about 10 houses up that street from the vacant lot that bordered on that parking lot.

Amazing memories from the sand lot baseball, football, and hockey we played in that vacant lot during the day and the games we continued into the night on that blacktop parking lot. We were all from lower middle class households who barely had a pot to piss in, but our friendships/street baseball and football played every spare hour of every day/neighborhood play including the non- athletes and the girls/ organized Little League, Pony League, Colt League baseball/street, local frozen park ponds, and the Barge Canal for hockey/all evolved into high school Football, Hockey/and Baseball.

Kids just don't play like that anymore and it's criminal.

Then it was off to college. That neighborhood girl followed a year later. I've already traveled those days with you, marriage and moving to the Utica area. Now old and retired for many years. I'd definitely live all those years again. It sure beats what's not that far down the road. LOL

 

[ninetyeight]

Incredible how depressing one bad loss can be. I felt pretty hyped up after the outdoor game (even though they gave up over 40 shots) and the recent wins. But this embarrassing Caps loss has spiralled me pretty deep down. Just when things looked promising this team reminded how the season has been.

I just get an awful feeling that Fitz will hang on to Ruff and waste multiple prime years from our core and maybe even waste our cup window down the drain entirely. There's just no excuses to play Brendan Smith ever again after last game's performances with how he's performed. At most play him as a 4th line winger. No excuses to let Timo rot away his career/confidence and not even try him at RW. Playing Jack at wing is also idiotic, I don't care what the defensive structure is, we've seen him at wing before and his whole game dies there. Not to mention how he treats Holtz. Holtz should be moved to 1st line LW with Hughes on C and Bratt as RW. Holtz is a R shot so the two being faster transitional playmakers and Holtz being a slower skater, it would open up his one timer from the second wave. Holtz thinks the game creatively like Jack and Bratt, and already has off ice chemistry with Bratt. In a parallel universe Ruff is watching the games at home and Bruno has put this line together and Holtz is a 30+ goals per season scorer.

I really have no confidence in this team against the Rangers either, I hope they pull it together somehow, but really until the WHOLE coaching staff is fired I expect this team to lose every game.

 

[JrFischer54]

Watch the 1980 team . Start with the Finland game.

its really amazing not just the game but the fact that lake placid could even host this event. I know there were struggles and it didn't go smoothly but man i've been to that arena and its like wow wtf the olympics have come a long way bot facility and city wise. that town is really remote probably even more in 1980

 

[britdevil]

Can you still purchase jerseys without the shit ass patch?

I haven't bought a hockey jersey in about 15+ years so....

 

[JrFischer54]

Barnabas also has the naming rights to the practice rink and has for close to the last 10 years.

And it was another health care company (Amerihealth) before that, ever since the arena opened.

Don't even get me started on how much money they're kicking up to the Devils for those naming rights and the jersey ads.

i get advertising but what do they get out of this deal?

 

[My3Sons]

I'll never forget those 2 games, but especially the Russia one.

As kids we would play ball hockey at night in the parking lot of a casket company on our block. It had security lights so the lot was well lit. We were playing the role of the 1960 US gold medal winning Olympic Champions. We won that medal so many times, but it would have to wait 20 years before we got to see it again.

2 of my college teammates, one from Rochester and the other from Ogdensburg, were in my suburban Utica apt. living room. We were like kids again cheering and screaming as the fates produced the unbelievable final results. Then we had to sweat through the start of the Gold Medal game with the Finns.

The games took place during a central NY winter freezing spell unlike any seen since. Can't remember how many days we were below zero for the high and the night lows were off the charts. Global warming has killed those kind of cold snaps. I actually miss them. Those winter nights in that Rochester casket company parking lot saw the thermometer below zero on many a night. Our parents called us insane for being out there for hours, but the belief we were winning Gold made it such a warm night out in the cold. The older you get the clearer the memories of the past become and seem just like yesterday. I don't understand the people who say they'd never want to do it over again. I'd grab my wife and leap into that time machine and do it all over again as long as I was guaranteed it would repeat the exact same script. She lived about 10 houses up that street from the vacant lot that bordered on that parking lot.

Amazing memories from the sand lot baseball, football, and hockey we played in that vacant lot during the day and the games we continued into the night on that blacktop parking lot. We were all from lower middle class households who barely had a pot to piss in, but our friendships/street baseball and football played every spare hour of every day/neighborhood play including the non- athletes and the girls/ organized Little League, Pony League, Colt League baseball/street, local frozen park ponds, and the Barge Canal for hockey/all evolved into high school Football, Hockey/and Baseball.

Kids just don't play like that anymore and it's criminal.

Then it was off to college. That neighborhood girl followed a year later. I've already traveled those days with you, marriage and moving to the Utica area. Now old and retired for many years. I'd definitely live all those years again. It sure beats what's not that far down the road. LOL

nothing says exuberant youth like a casket company parking lot.

Just teasing. That's a great story thanks for sharing it with us. Youth, as the saying goes, is wasted on the young.

I went to Lake Placid years later to ski with the woman I ended up marrying, and went to the rinks and went to center ice and knelt down to kiss the ice surface. They were in use at the time for figure skating practice. Nobody stopped me. I'm guessing I wasn't the first to do something like that. It was a different world.

 

[JimEIV]

its really amazing not just the game but the fact that lake placid could even host this event. I know there were struggles and it didn't go smoothly but man i've been to that arena and its like wow wtf the olympics have come a long way bot facility and city wise. that town is really remote probably even more in 1980

I go up there every once in a while to fish the Ausable river. I think the first time I was there was like 86 or 87...its barely changed over the years.

It must've been a sight to see all those people in that tiny village.

 

[Bleedred]

i get advertising but what do they get out of this deal?

The Devils or Barnabas?

The Devils probably get a pretty decent amount of money. Barnabas pays a bunch of money and people see their name and start going to their hospitals I guess.

That’s also however much less on their annual taxes……

I could rant on this the entire day, but it comes dangerously close to political talk.

 

[RyGuy]

Even as a Canadian I shake my head at these names. Moose Jaw and now I learn there is a place called Moose Factory?

Edit- I went down the Rabbit hole guys, Mooseland, Moosehorn, Moosehide, Moose River, Moose Lake, Moosehorn Bay, Moose Island, Moose Harbor, Moose Creek, Moose Brook.

Are you saying there are moose in Canada or something? Quit being cryptic.

 

[Xirik]

Are you saying there are moose in Canada or something? Quit being cryptic.

well I don't want you guys to get frightened but....



He's on the loose!

 

[RyGuy]

well I don't want you guys to get frightened but....



He's on the loose!

I believe I was on this show during an acid trip.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

 

[Ripshot 43]

I’m pretty pumped about the Hart Trophy sponsored by ViagraTM

Um… when did Viagra stop sponsoring @Bleedred ’s softy of the night?!?

 

[SansaStark]

Win-win to not watch tonight. They lose, great don’t have to be sad. If they win, I’ll watch the highlights and I still don’t trust them to beat Montreal. The only reason to actually watch would be if like 86 goes off like the olden times. highly unlikely at this point

 

[Cheddabombs]

well I don't want you guys to get frightened but....



He's on the loose!

Elliot Moose was a classic

 

[MadDevil]

Forget Saros...



It probably won't happen but Askarov would be so much fun on this team.

 

[JrFischer54]

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Maybe this was talked about already. So the deal was holtz for markstrom with retention. So if no retention (which is fine by me) then the piece going back should be lessened. Sounds good

Get markstrom while daws learns and then walk away from him when the contract is up or resign him for a vet backup if he is still playing good in 2 years.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Forget Saros...



It probably won't happen but Askarov would be so much fun on this team.

Askarov I would give up a lot for. Holtz/Casey/1st.

 

[My3Sons]

Askarov I would give up a lot for. Holtz/Casey/1st.

Have you watched him or just going by reputation? Presumably Nashville would move Saros before Askarov. If Askarov finishes the season this strong Nashville will realistically have to move Saros this offseason before he becomes an expensive backup and loses his value.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Have you watched him or just going by reputation? Presumably Nashville would move Saros before Askarov. If Askarov finishes the season this strong Nashville will realistically have to move Saros this offseason before he becomes an expensive backup and loses his value.

Reputation/stats/age. I’m no goalie scout that’s for sure lol. And I know it’s a pipe dream, NASH would be crazy to keep Saros and move Askarov.

 

[My3Sons]

Reputation/stats/age. I’m no goalie scout that’s for sure lol. And I know it’s a pipe dream, NASH would be crazy to keep Saros and move Askarov.

I imagine Askarov’s agent will be pounding the table of Askarov isn’t called up before the end of the season.