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that brings MacKinnon up to ...92% and brings Jack down to.....81%! Wow, what a difference!
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Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V
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that brings MacKinnon up to ...92% and brings Jack down to.....81%! Wow, what a difference!
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MichaelJ
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Derps
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It was just a hysterically disingenuous move by you.
But on the substance, 11% is a pretty significant difference. Im also not sure why you are pretending like its not. That's 9 games per year.
It's also disingenuous not to at least acknowledge that two of those seasons Jack played basically all of were significantly shortened.
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Also, you get triggered so easily my god. Calm down dude its a message board.
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I don’t give a crap after what he paid for a 33 UFA Dman, he would’ve been pantsed on this trade.
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my apologies for responding to a message on a message board.
It will never happen again, sir!
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Sure was. So he was less likely to get severely injured true. But not even once over his first 13 seasons, give or take? Jack has 7 more to go to reach that level. Would you like to wager on Jack remaining healthy enough to not miss any significant time, say 20 games in a season, during those next 7 seasons?
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Yeah, this is just what you do now. Kinda embarrassing if we're being honest.
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So I am going to play into the game here a little bit for all the people who INSIST that we "worry" about Jack's injury history.
What, exactly, would you like the Devils to do with Jack moving forward? I would like what the plan is if the worry is that large. Are you trading him? Not signing him in a few years when it is time to?
Please elaborate. Or, do you just want to worry to say you're worrying just to worry?
What, exactly, would you like the Devils to do with Jack moving forward? I would like what the plan is if the worry is that large. Are you trading him? Not signing him in a few years when it is time to?
Please elaborate. Or, do you just want to worry to say you're worrying just to worry?
His health is a legitimate worry. Doesn’t matter if it was from bad luck or not. People have a right to worry there.
But
Writing him off is asinine. He is a top 20 forward in this league. He will be the focal point of the franchise along with Nico. Fitz needs to give them better secondary scoring so they are not always overly relied on.
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I quoted one of your posts angry at Fitz last night and I think it may have been deleted because it may have come off as malicious to someone who wasn’t familiar with the reference lol. But I knew you’d get it.
I said something like I wasn’t happy with your post and you may find yourself working harder with a gun at your back for a bowl of rice a day.
It was probably much more clever when I made it originally. I noticed you on here and was bummed that you hadn’t commented on it, but then I checked my post history and it was gone.
I knew you wouldn’t take it at all personally and would get the reference, but with how heated it seems to be getting in here, that was probably mistaken by a mod for a malicious, nasty flaming post lol.
Or maybe I just didn’t hit send or something and it never went through anyway lol.
I quoted one of your posts angry at Fitz last night and I think it may have been deleted because it may have come off as malicious to someone who wasn’t familiar with the reference lol. But I knew you’d get it.
I said something like I wasn’t happy with your post and you may find yourself working harder with a gun at your back for a bowl of rice a day.
It was probably much more clever when I made it originally. I noticed you on here and was bummed that you hadn’t commented on it, but then I checked my post history and it was gone.
I knew you wouldn’t take it at all personally and would get the reference, but with how heated it seems to be getting in here, that was probably mistaken by a mod for a malicious, nasty flaming post lol.
Or maybe I just didn’t hit send or something and it never went through anyway lol.
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No, I wanted him moved to wing early on for this reason. I remember the whole ‘playing against men’ dust up and the concern was that he had a slight frame and would face significant injury time. The responses were along the lines of ‘he’s so fast he’ll just skate away from them’ but here we are. The Devils can’t build a consistent winner around someone who can’t stay on the ice for only 60 games.
I don’t know what they do now…move to wing and hope it keeps him healthy? Live with the expectation that he’ll only play 75% of games at most (yes, I know he played a full season two years ago - once)? Pack the top6 and even depth forwards with the understanding he won’t be available for significant stretches? It’s a tough spot, because anyone who thinks this will just work itself out is whistling past the graveyard.
People are legit worried due to him having multiple surgeries in a short span. Its a valid concern which will make some question where this franchise wants to go.
Not that I agree with that whatsoever but thats where they are coming from.
And if it really is just “oh man, im worried!” why be bothered by it? Its a legit feeling many have because its been two devastating injuries for him in a row which is very demoralizing for himself, the team and the fans.
Worrying is pretty much all they have.
It's tough for me to worry too much because teams in this league are built around difference makers at forward. Ours are Hughes, Hischier, and Bratt. If those guys aren't good enough for whatever reason there's nothing we can do. We can't go to the magic store and trade Hughes and a 3rd for some tougher version of him. He was the consensus best player in a draft we had a 1st overall in, we took him, and it turns out he was worth it. We're built around him now and that's just how it is.
Nothing we do here is worthwhile, but worrying about Hughes is borderline meaningless, he's not going anywhere. I'd much rather spend time thinking about how to eke out wins in the margins because those are the things that aren't set in stone for a franchise.
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It’s a fun analogy but probably doesn’t fit here.
For one Fitz seems to have been in active conversations regarding nearly every major player on the block, and many who aren’t. It’d be akin to calling every store weeks in advance that aren’t certain how they will price their gifts so you call to get feelers and negotiate. Presumably most things Fitz didn’t buy were because the prices were very crazy — and this year that feels more true than ever.
Second, some items will magically appear on the shelves in the last 24 hrs that were not for sale last week. Think EP or Tomas Hertl last year who nobody expected to move.
Finally, the gift buyers needs change between 2 weeks before Christmas Eve and now. The devils lost Hughes 2 days ago - that’s monumental and turns the devils from needing to buy moderately to potentially needing to buy heavy to keep up.
With having said that, I myself am not worried about Jack. I think he can put in many healthy seasons. I do chalk it up to rotten luck in these last two incidents
But people should understand the worry that many folks have on that subject. Its not an outlandish feeling to have
But people should understand the worry that many folks have on that subject. Its not an outlandish feeling to have
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you put this way better than I could have, so thanks for that.
I just never understand being a sports fan and then just always assuming the worst will happen. What is the point of that? But to each their own!
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I think the plan has to be management works under the assumption that Jack will consistently miss a significant amount of games, until proven otherwise (IE several consecutive seasons without a big injury). This means they have to find some way of attaining a high quality 3C who won’t be out of place playing up the lineup when Jack is out. It also means that we have to acknowledge that this team’s core isn’t like a Colorado or Tampa or Edmonton. We have to be constructed more in the mold of a Florida or Dallas, with way more balance across all four lines because the best players are still a tier below guys like Mackinnon, McDavid, Kucherov, etc.
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This board is full of Jets and Mets fans. Catastrophizing is a very normal cognitive distortion for those fanbases.
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jets game would be nice, but the 9 games immediately after will make or break us.. need to win 7 of these
“Cognitive distortion”, “not a real fan”, “”go root for another team”…if only it actually was “to each their own”. No one gets to dictate how other people react or interpret team news. Pretty basic stuff.
I don’t see how we can’t free up money this summer by moving Hamilton, Palat, or both. Even leaving the situation with Nemec/Casey aside.
In the interim, the only way you’re getting that 3C is to pay a premium either in the trade market or FA, which is why I would have left the TDL powder dry for the summer. But outside of that, Fitzgerald ignoring drafting centers is a huge whiff.
I don’t see how we can’t free up money this summer by moving Hamilton, Palat, or both. Even leaving the situation with Nemec/Casey aside.
