Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part IV

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Hard to believe in this team with this run. I no longer think we need 2 forwards, we need 3.

Haula, Palat, Mercer, Lazar, Bastian, Tatar all are pretty much useless.

Haula and Lazar, yes, but the rest are fine with better support, as we've seen with Palat, who is playing fine. Mercer I haven't given up on quite yet.
 
Haula and Lazar, yes, but the rest are fine with better support, as we've seen with Palat, who is playing fine. Mercer I haven't given up on quite yet.
Palat is somewhat productive because he plays with Jack and Bratt. How many times has he fumbled the puck and destroyed a chance or in-zone possession? Many.
 
I think that they need 1 center and 1 winger. Now, given the deployment of Casey and how they seemingly feel about Nemec, I think they will be trading for a depth DMan as well. Are we able to get all those things? I'm not sure.

However, the league seems wide open to me this year. I know the Jets look unstoppable, but that team always tends to stumble in the playoffs so I don't trust them. The Caps as the best team in the East still for some reason do not scare me. if Florida is missing Tkachuk, they aren't a serious threat IMO. etc etc
 
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Casey played 9 minutes last night lol

having three DMen play nearly 23 minutes in a random February game is not a recipe for success. Just let the kid play. The schedule the next week or so is brutal, as they have 5 games in 8 days including tons of travel.

Fitz is absolutely going to trade some of our assets for a throwaway DMan isnt he.
 
Haula and Lazar, yes, but the rest are fine with better support, as we've seen with Palat, who is playing fine. Mercer I haven't given up on quite yet.
how can you be such an advanced stats nerd but bury your head in the sand when it comes to Palat?

OTHER than his actual production, Palat has been horrendous. But why are you allowed to say “yeah well at least he’s producing points consistently?” while at the same time scoffing at people who don’t like Meier’s production? You can’t have that argument both ways just because every time you click “submit” you do it with a snicker and a misguided sense of superiority.
 
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Casey played 9 minutes last night lol

having three DMen play nearly 23 minutes in a random February game is not a recipe for success. Just let the kid play. The schedule the next week or so is brutal, as they have 5 games in 8 days including tons of travel.

Fitz is absolutely going to trade some of our assets for a throwaway DMan isnt he.
You can acquire a depth dman for a mid round pick. I don’t think acquiring someone like that is going to effect our ability to improve at forward.
 
I think that they need 1 center and 1 winger. Now, given the deployment of Casey and how they seemingly feel about Nemec, I think they will be trading for a depth DMan as well. Are we able to get all those things? I'm not sure.

However, the league seems wide open to me this year. I know the Jets look unstoppable, but that team always tends to stumble in the playoffs so I don't trust them. The Caps as the best team in the East still for some reason do not scare me. if Florida is missing Tkachuk, they aren't a serious threat IMO. etc etc
The Caps and Jets are rocking the #1 and #2 PDO seasons of all time - good teams obviously but not as unbeatable as they seem.
 
Telling that you have to pull up a junktime surge when the team was out of it to cite ‘one’ instance of Timo constantly producing as a Devil

Was also the one time he was close to 100% healthy last year. But the detractors don't care about that.

From late November to late January of this season, he had 23 points in 29 games. That is production I will gladly take along with how he is generating opportunities at even strength. Yes, I'd like him to score more goals, but point production matters too.

He's currently in the midst of a 7 game stretch with just 1 assist. Clearly that is not good enough.

I know there was plenty of reason to not have him on PP1 when it was rolling, but would it really be that harmful to try him there again soon and let him f***ing shoot?
 
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we haven't won 3 games in a row since late december(and that was actually 6/7 wins too)

We've had two 4 str8 L's

and right now we're on course doing the Win one Lose one, win one lose one....

this team needs to get some wins, desperately.
 
its pretty bad when the team falls behind 1-0 in the first period and you know they aren't going to win so you switch over to paradise (great show).

i do feel like they could compete and actually win a series against the canes IF we can even hold onto the position and really it has more to do with the canes being a mess this year and not us being the better team. i just think markstrom can steal the series.

i do and dont get the waiting until the day before or day of the deadline to make a deal. sure it takes two teams to trade but is it fitz dragging his feet we will never know.
 
It's an insane choice not to have him out there. I n s a n e

I'm in favor of having him there because he's one of your strongest offensive producers, but I recognize that it wasn't working with him there to start and then they caught fire with how well Noesen plays the net front spot on that unit.

Since then, the PP has cooled off somewhat and could maybe use a different look. I know having Jack and Bratt together works, but why not let him fire away from that circle if you can? Or try him again in a net front spot? I don't know, but I feel like the coaching staff could do even more to try and get him going from that respect.

I think his detractors view it as too convenient of an excuse when they look at his lack of production compared to San Jose, but yeah, not being on PP1 will do that to a guy's numbers.
 
how can you be such an advanced stats nerd but bury your head in the sand when it comes to Palat?

OTHER than his actual production, Palat has been horrendous. But why are you allowed to say “yeah well at least he’s producing points consistently?” while at the same time scoffing at people who don’t like Meier’s production? You can’t have that argument both ways just because every time you click “submit” you do it with a snicker and a misguided sense of superiority.

I'm not burying my head in the sand. Palat is not 'producing points', he's scoring goals. Goals = good. It's harder to tell his impact on the line, he's probably dragging it down slightly, but the thing is that A: I don't think this is something the Devils can fix this season and B: at least if he is dragging them down, he's getting to the right spots on the ice and is able to score on one out of every 7 shots. If they can find a place for him elsewhere in the off-season, they should do that, but for now they've got to roll with this. I do not think they are going to find a suitable upgrade on Palat at the deadline.

It's hard to tell what Palat is away from Hughes and Bratt because when that was the case early in the season, he was godawful, but I think we can agree that Palat has at least improved from that point, last night notwithstanding.
 
Since then, the PP has cooled off somewhat and could maybe use a different look.
I think generally PP1 still looks very strong most games.

They’re 2 for 7 since the break. 3 for 10 in the last 5 games. If my quick game reviews are right.

The issue is drawing very few PPs but the powerplay itself still is humming well. If you changed the powerplay and it actually got bad for a bit, that would be a disaster.
 
I think generally PP1 still looks very strong most games.

They’re 2 for 7 since the break. 3 for 10 in the last 5 games. If my quick game reviews are right.

The issue is drawing very few PPs but the powerplay itself still is humming well. If you changed the powerplay and it actually got bad for a bit, that would be a disaster.

You're not wrong. They're not playing badly per se, it might have been me misreading the graphic the broadcast shared last night just to show they've gone more towards the middle of the pack/slightly below it over the past month or so. And this comes from a place of how could we continue to try and get Timo in a position to score.

I don't want to mess too heavily with what is working, but there may need to be some room to tinker.
 
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Was also the one time he was close to 100% healthy last year. But the detractors don't care about that.

From late November to late January of this season, he had 23 points in 29 games. That is production I will gladly take along with how he is generating opportunities at even strength. Yes, I'd like him to score more goals, but point production matters too.

He's currently in the midst of a 7 game stretch with just 1 assist. Clearly that is not good enough.

I know there was plenty of reason to not have him on PP1 when it was rolling, but would it really be that harmful to try him there again soon and let him f***ing shoot?
I know he's playing well (last night 9 cf's 5 sog's) but there is something counterintuitive to the thinking of "this guy just can't score, let's put him on the PP".

If we are putting him in a shooters spot on the PP then one of either Bratt or Jack are out.
 
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I think generally PP1 still looks very strong most games.

They’re 2 for 7 since the break. 3 for 10 in the last 5 games. If my quick game reviews are right.

The issue is drawing very few PPs but the powerplay itself still is humming well. If you changed the powerplay and it actually got bad for a bit, that would be a disaster.
PP2 is a black hole. A couple extra goals from the second unit goes a long way. Plus the opportunity issue.
 

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